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Michael Savage LIVE Thread!!! Thursday May 11, 2006
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To: MaineVoter2002
Indiscriminately tracking domestic phone calls (i.e. those with NO international component) is certainly not "connecting the dots". Don't conflate the two programs.
I'm all for the so-called 'Terrorist Surveillance Program', where calls with one end outside of the country and tied to a known terror entity are surveilled without warrants. But, I draw the line when the NSA starts tracking all/most domestic calls with no terror connections whatsoever.
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posted on
05/11/2006 3:51:47 PM PDT
by
mwp99
(Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
To: mwp99
So the goverenment is supposed to track terrorists without looking? Got it.
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posted on
05/11/2006 3:53:06 PM PDT
by
seamus
To: rockabyebaby
Brave New World - rant on
Just tooooo much. How do you Savageheads process all this? I might could; but, I'd need some herb to help - which I have not indulged in for many years.
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posted on
05/11/2006 3:54:32 PM PDT
by
don-o
To: seamus
Tagging all/most domestic phone calls is not "tracking terrorists", unless all US citizens are suddenly suspects in the War on Terror.
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posted on
05/11/2006 3:54:42 PM PDT
by
mwp99
(Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
To: mwp99
Mohammed Atta made calls from my city to Al Qaeda in New Jersey just before he boarded the plane in my city.
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posted on
05/11/2006 3:55:11 PM PDT
by
MaineVoter2002
(http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
To: MaineVoter2002
So that makes all US citizens suspects?
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posted on
05/11/2006 3:56:31 PM PDT
by
mwp99
(Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
To: don-o
LOL! It takes a special kind of person to process Savage! I felt like you a while back but now I love Savage, I'll take 10 of him over one Limbaugh!
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posted on
05/11/2006 3:59:49 PM PDT
by
rockabyebaby
(Say what you feel, those that matter don't mind, those that mind don't matter.)
To: mwp99
wrong-o. Eschelon has been doing that (including content) since Klintoon took office - This NSA program only tracks two things: the dialing number, and the number dialed. nothing else. People are such morons.
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posted on
05/11/2006 4:00:22 PM PDT
by
xcamel
(Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
To: MaineVoter2002
lately Savage has become a Bush-basher only for the sake of attracting liberals
Attract liberals? He goes after liberals with much more fury than he does Bush.
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posted on
05/11/2006 4:01:33 PM PDT
by
mwp99
(Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
To: mwp99
So that makes all US citizens suspects? No, the US government is NOT listening to domestic or international calls. They are looking at DATA to/from US to nations such as Pakistan, Syria and other countries known to be Al Qaeda friendly. If before 911 they had done this they may have caught Mohammed Atta's number calling Afghanistan and a red flag may have been raised. From there they could have looked further and maybe (just maybe) they could have saved atleast one of the twin towers.
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posted on
05/11/2006 4:01:49 PM PDT
by
MaineVoter2002
(http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
To: MaineVoter2002
Savage has become a Bush-basher Bush needs bashing IMO, he's doing a terrible job when it comes to ILLEGAL INVASION, if enough of us bash him maybe he'll get the message to do SOMETHING about this INVASION.
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posted on
05/11/2006 4:04:33 PM PDT
by
rockabyebaby
(Say what you feel, those that matter don't mind, those that mind don't matter.)
To: mwp99
OK. Let's put it this way, comparing this search to the searches we endure at an airport.
As I walk toward the gate, I am selected by the government "at random" to step to the side. Government agents rummage through my bag, touching and looking at all the contents. They swab it for explosives. They make me take off my shoes. They ask probing questions. They wand me a few more times. "Well, nothing here. Move along your way."
That is arguably a violation of our 4th Amendment protection against warrantless search and seizure because they looked inside my bag without probable cause.
The NSA in this case is merely looking at the bag. Big Effin' Deal, and not even close to violating the 4th Amendment.
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posted on
05/11/2006 4:07:04 PM PDT
by
seamus
To: MaineVoter2002
Did you read the
USA Today article?
"As a result, domestic call records those of calls that originate and terminate within U.S. borders were believed to be private.
Sources, however, say that is not the case. With access to records of billions of domestic calls, the NSA has gained a secret window into the communications habits of millions of Americans."
I understand they're not listening; it says so in the article. But, these are strictly domestic calls with no international component.
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posted on
05/11/2006 4:07:38 PM PDT
by
mwp99
(Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
To: seamus
You won't find me defending the TSA, I can assure you of that.
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posted on
05/11/2006 4:09:26 PM PDT
by
mwp99
(Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
To: mwp99
Attract liberals? He goes after liberals with much more fury than he does Bush The libs in San Francisco have been trying to get him off the air for quite some time. They have slowed down and been less harsh on Savage since he began with the Bush-Bashing and the republican bashing. They dont care if he's bashing Bush from the right as long as he's bashing Bush and against Iraq. If he's the enemy of their enemy, then he's a friend to them.
Bill O'Reilly did the same thing (only O'Reilly Bashed him more from the left)
Savage will lose listeners (not because he bashes Bush) but because he's all over the map.
He's against the Iraqi War which he supported around the time the libs were trying to get him off the air. Suddenly he's against it and the libs have backed off. They know he's become their useful idiot.
It's a shame because I use to like him a lot...I like extreme conservatives on the air...it helps the movement and makes other right-wingers appear to be more center. It's healthy. But it's unfortunate he's bashing Bush and republicans for ratings. There's plenty to Bash Bush about...but to go against the Iraq War and Connecting the dots...that's where I had to draw the line.
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posted on
05/11/2006 4:11:10 PM PDT
by
MaineVoter2002
(http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
To: xcamel
Thanks for the infantile name-calling. It adds so much to the thread.
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posted on
05/11/2006 4:11:23 PM PDT
by
mwp99
(Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
To: rockabyebaby
Bush needs bashing IMO, he's doing a terrible job when it comes to ILLEGAL INVASION, if enough of us bash him maybe he'll get the message to do SOMETHING about this INVASION As a matter of fact I agree 100% with you and Savage on this issue. I check in with Savage to see if he's touching on this issue.
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posted on
05/11/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT
by
MaineVoter2002
(http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
To: mwp99
The "moron" comment wasn't directed at you. This NSA program has been discussed many times over. "people" meaning the suckers out there that believe what is said in the press.
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posted on
05/11/2006 4:14:15 PM PDT
by
xcamel
(Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
To: mwp99
I understand they're not listening; it says so in the article. But, these are strictly domestic calls with no international component Yes, but that data is then put into a computer that pulls out the suspected international calls.
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posted on
05/11/2006 4:15:09 PM PDT
by
MaineVoter2002
(http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
To: xcamel
My apologies. I misinterpreted.
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posted on
05/11/2006 4:15:24 PM PDT
by
mwp99
(Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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