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Man Wins Case After Firing Over Confederate Flag
AP ^ | 4/23/06

Posted on 04/23/2006 10:32:45 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside

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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
What an idiot.

Perhaps he's an idiot to you, but there are more important things in life than money. I don't think he was worshiping a relic, but rather he was taking pride in his heritage, and exercising his right to display the Confederate flag on his truck. The person who should have been reprimanded was the person who complained! The flag is not obscene nor insulting, so people should have more important things to do than try to tell other people what they can and can't do. A license tag is not harming anyone, and it's time "political correctness' was put to rest. Tampa should have been ordered to give him his job back with pay IMO.

The Confederacy is part of the South's heritage as much as the Union is part of the North's. We've been taught a different form of history than the North has. We were taught, and believe, that the war was fought over States Rights, and there is as much history to support this as it is to support the Northern interpretation that it was fought over slavery. Robert E. Lee had no slaves at the time of the war, but Ulysses S. Grant did! We could probably argue the cause of the War Between the States until doomsday, and not all would agree, but the Southerner should have as much right to honor his heritage, as say, the NAACP. Should we demand that everyone remove a sticker or a license plate if it has an NAACP symbol on it because it offends someone? I don't think so, and I do think it's time for common sense to prevail in the court room and the job place! Perhaps the man who fired him should have his job taken for being intolerant of another person's belief, and for denying him his First Amendment Right.

21 posted on 04/23/2006 11:46:36 AM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
What an idiot... All because I wanted to worship a relic from the 1800s.

Would you feel the same way if the man was fired for displaying a Christian flag that may have offended someone? I could be offended regularly by loud rap music, piercings on customer service representatives, pants that are 10 sizes too big and, of course, anyone Liberal bumper stickers. I shrug it off.
Someone was upset about his car.. not his work performance, or his language, or anything relating to his job.
Someone was offended by something displayed on his mode of transportation.
The politically correct police have determined that that the Confederate Flag is offensive to some people though it's been around since the 1800's.
I have a suggestion for the offended masses... hit your head against a wall repeatedly so you have something more important to complain about.

22 posted on 04/23/2006 12:00:38 PM PDT by The Brush
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I fully support this guy's right to display this flag, and anyone who would support firing him for it is completely insane. I don't know all the details, do you? Maybe he's already found another job and doesn't want his job back. Mabye he's got money elsewhere. It doesn't matter. What does matter is that if he had a Malcolm X license plate he wouldn't have been fired.


23 posted on 04/23/2006 12:22:59 PM PDT by GodfearingTexan
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To: jocon307

I have to agree with you. No way would Sharpton and Jackson not have made a state issuing a confederate plate into a BIG issue. There would have been marches and an attempt to impeach Bush, I mean Jeb.


24 posted on 04/23/2006 12:27:06 PM PDT by kjo
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To: PeskyOne

Democrats created the Confederacy, The Confederate flag and the Klu Klux Klan, The Republicans ended slavery, saved the union and created the NAACP.

Being proud of confederate heritage means what? You are proud of being the tools of The Democrat masters, gleefully lynching black people and republicans alike in the south while flying the confederate flag to strike fear in the hearts of those that are on the recieving end of the hate it embodies.

He wasn't denied his 1st Amendment Rights, he wasn't allowed to exercise them in his workplace during the time he was supposed to be working.

Now he has all the time in the world to exercise those rights.


25 posted on 04/23/2006 12:32:23 PM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

"or park his truck off city property"

So as a private citizen not employed by the city, can he park his truck on citu property now?


26 posted on 04/23/2006 12:34:57 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: jocon307

i have a sate issued nc.plate with a confederate flag on it scv.


27 posted on 04/23/2006 12:53:19 PM PDT by old gringo
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To: usmcobra

"the hate it embodies..."

So where is the hate when my high school took to the field to the tune of Dixie with a black player taking the lead and waving the Stars and Bars?


28 posted on 04/23/2006 1:17:17 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: PeskyOne

Whatever happened to just STFU and working??? Keep your personal beliefs outside of work, OK?


29 posted on 04/23/2006 3:07:09 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Remove card rapidly)
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To: usmcobra

bump


30 posted on 04/23/2006 5:34:34 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: usmcobra
I am proud of my Southern heritage because they fought for the right of state government. No, I am not proud of the KluKluxKlan which was formed after the war in 1866 and disbanded in 1871, and reared its ugly head again in 1915. I am not proud of killing or mistreating any human being, and that's not what the flag represents to SCV members. It is a Confederate flag and not a KluKluxKlan flag. I'm sorry you view it in that manner. The majority of Southerners were Democrats during the War Between the States, but we often hear it said now that the Republican Party of today is the Democrat Party of the past. I don't know if that is accurate because I've been a Republican or an Independent all my adult life.

I had thought the man's First Amendment Rights had been violated because of this statement in the article: "He feels vindicated," attorney Luke Lirot told the Tribune, "by knowing the courts have recognized he had a First Amendment right to display the Confederate flag as a reflection of his Southern heritage and traditions that he viewed as important."

31 posted on 04/23/2006 6:36:20 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
What an idiot. Oh yeah I got $4,500 [which will be gone in two weeks]. I have no job and this will stain my resume for any future employment consideration. All because I wanted to worship a relic from the 1800s.

I guess you would support this even if it was the American flag or a Christian flag, which predates the 1800's. The term you use (worship) is poorly chosen IMHO.. Pride maybe, Worship is going out on a far limb.

I have seen better arguments from you Extreme, this one just begs to be chopped down. The tree's core is rotten thru and thru..

32 posted on 04/23/2006 6:58:10 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Whatever happened to just STFU and working??? Keep your personal beliefs outside of work, OK?

Still alive and well, in China and Cuba...

33 posted on 04/23/2006 6:59:58 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

No kidding - this guy LOST, Big time!


34 posted on 04/23/2006 7:06:23 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: usmcobra

Bump.


35 posted on 04/24/2006 3:52:39 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Gal. 4:16)
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To: PeskyOne
I am proud of my Southern heritage because they fought for the right of state government

They fought for the right of the state government to keep people slaves.

Unlike the American revolution, the South did not list any grievances except they did not like they idea that slavery was going to be limited by the incoming Republican Party.

What the South should take pride is in the contributions they have made to American freedom since the Civil War.

36 posted on 04/24/2006 4:00:59 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Gal. 4:16)
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To: PeskyOne

I'm sorry it is the truth. The Klan was created by Democrats officials and former confederate officers to terrorise blacks and republicans alike in the south and in a time when the north was trying to rebuild the south and return it to the union in was that shameful banner that was used as a weapon of terror in the night.

The case didn't go to court, they settled out of court and on the cheap, had they gone through the court system and won he might have received more than 100 times the settlement and at his job back, instead in a day and age where you can get a million dollars for spilling a cup of coffee on yourself he got next to nothing and a pink slip and calls it a victory.

That must be his southern pride at work.


37 posted on 04/24/2006 4:08:23 AM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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To: usmcobra
There is no way I am going to defend the Klan, and I agree it was started by Democrats in the South after the war. As I said in my original post, some of us have learned different versions of why the war was fought. I won't deny that slavery played a part in the war, but the biggest disagreement was over states rights -- as per the Southern version. As part of our history, we were taught that not all people who came South after the war were admirable, and were referred to as "Carpetbaggers" and "Scalawags". Since neither of us lived in this era, we only know what we were taught in school and by ancestors whose stories have been passed down to us. Thankfully, we live in the USA and can believe which version we choose to. I choose to believe the flag we are discussing is a CONFEDERATE flag, and not a KKK flag. I hate the KKK uses it, but I don't think "KKK" when I see it. The first paragraph of the letter found at the following URL explains how many Southerners feel about the flag: http://nccah.iwarp.com/3kletter.htm

I agree totally with your second paragraph, but won't comment on the third paragraph.

Hopefully, there will be more present day matters we will agree upon than disagree.

38 posted on 04/24/2006 7:46:01 AM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: Arkinsaw
Sort of a test to see if your position is due to the contents of the license plate or the principle of the thing.

"No Replies."

Guess that means {crickets.} Or maybe Extremely Obtuse Extremist actually id busy over posting at DU.

39 posted on 04/24/2006 7:55:40 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
I am in no way a supporter of the confederate battle flag . . . but I don't think the City should have had any say in what the man had on his own personal vehicle.

I respectfully disagree. He works for the city, parks in a city parking lot, and thus represents them. They deserve a say in what he puts on the car he uses for work. If he painted obscene words on the hood of his car they would have a right to ask him to remove them. To some Americans, a Confederate flag is every bit as offensive.

Clearly this man had no case, and the city just wanted it to go away. But if it were me I wouldn't have paid him a thing.

40 posted on 04/24/2006 7:59:36 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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