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To: Btrp113Cav

I am starting to fear that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon specifically for use against Israel. Contextually, that's how I would interpret these comments.


2 posted on 04/14/2006 5:24:12 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo ("Give a man a fish, make him a Democrat. Teach a man to fish, make him a Republican.")
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To: Thane_Banquo
I am starting to fear that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon specifically for use against Israel. Contextually, that's how I would interpret these comments.

I'm not trying to be smart but.... It boggles my mind that you JUST came to the conclusion.

5 posted on 04/14/2006 5:28:13 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller (Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Just starting? I've thought that's been obvious a long, long time...


9 posted on 04/14/2006 5:41:34 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Thane_Banquo
I am starting to fear that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon specifically for use against Israel.

Ummm, I've been thinking that for some time now.

18 posted on 04/14/2006 5:58:50 PM PDT by RushCrush (Just another bleating sheep from the Amen corner)
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To: Thane_Banquo

I am starting to fear that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon specifically for use against Israel."

They probably are, but they will never get the chance to deliver it.


30 posted on 04/14/2006 6:04:11 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: Thane_Banquo
I am starting to fear that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon specifically for use against Israel. Contextually, that's how I would interpret these comments.

Israel has been very quiet but if Iran does strike, they will get one chance before they become vapor. Israel won't miss and NEITHER WILL WE!

58 posted on 04/14/2006 6:37:14 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Thane_Banquo

"I am starting to fear that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon specifically for use against Israel."

That is the theory of a lot of people, including many Iranians. The notion is that once Iran gets a nuclear bomb, Israel is doomed, regardless of what action it takes.


61 posted on 04/14/2006 6:42:27 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Thane_Banquo
I get this feeling they want a fight with us and are hell bent on making it happen...and have convinced themselves they can win....

And that worries me to death.

64 posted on 04/14/2006 6:48:17 PM PDT by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: Thane_Banquo

They've only said they were doing exactly that, I dunno, a few hundred times, maybe?

It amazes me that people reflexively refuse to take these murderous fanatics at their word that they do in fact intend murder.


84 posted on 04/14/2006 7:10:15 PM PDT by thoughtomator (That new ring around Uranus is courtesy of the IRS)
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To: Thane_Banquo; Billthedrill
I am starting to fear that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon specifically for use against Israel. Contextually, that's how I would interpret these comments.

Here's something I posted in another thread that addresses this concern:


To: Billthedrill
Is this guy actually trying to sound like Hitler?

Yes. He is, really. Literally. Actually.

He thinks it will earn him respect from the rest of the world. To him, it is SO "natural" and "normal" to despise the Jews with such a visceral hatred, that he assumes EVERYONE feels the same way, but only HE has the "courage" to speak the words.

Truly pathological dynamics going on there -- but that's NOT what scares me the most.

What I am MOST concerned with is something that hit me like a ton of bricks last night, when all the pieces suddenly fell together.

Some items for your consideration:

* The stories about Iranian acquisition of working tactical nukes appear to be more credible by the day -- and the MSM and government are running from the story like the plague. The "Government-Press Complex" is in full-run-away mode from that report.

* Iran allegedly "produces refined uranium", and thus, "has joined the nuclear club" (code for "has the bomb"). The government produces an macabre circus, with dancers prancing about with (alleged) containers of uranium, as the nation is whipped into a "Hitler in the Square" froth, their confidence bolstered by the state, the uranium, and, said in all but word, "the bomb."

* A couple of days later (today), the "twelver" lunatic running the country starts issuing unambiguous threats to Israel.

Now, here's how I see it. "YMMV", but I suggest considering what I am about to say before dismissing it. The way I see it, He's HAD "the bomb" all along -- quite a few of them. He needed to buy time to get them fitted to his delivery systems (note the reports of expensive nosecone retrofitting work they performed recently). He needed time to get the "fine details" worked out, so that the warheads could be mounted, target systems programmed (balanced for the new throw-weight), etc., etc., etc.

So, he bought time. He played the old "Maybe I'll negotiate, OK? No, wait -- you offended me! I will NOT negotiate. Oh, you come sucking up to me? OK, good -- we negotiate. Wait! You offend me again, negotiations off! Ah, good, you come to senses. OK, negotiations back on -- but new groundrule -- Iran makes no concessions -- WEST makes ALL concessions. OK? OK! Let's negotiate! What, YOU won't negotiate? Well, maybe I reconsider. OK, I reconsidered. I will negotiate. But wait, you offend me AGAIN..."

You'd think "The West" would tire of this song and dance, but no, we let him drag things out, running us back and forth in the double-corner of the checkerboard.

He kept it up as long as he needed to keep it up, to buy time to get his "stuff" done.

Then, he became suddenly even MORE belligerent.

Now, he has his ducks in a row -- but, he needs a cover story. I mean, he's all along said that Iran had no nukes, and no nuclear ambitions, other than electricity generation.

His intended audience -- the uneducated "masses" of the Middle East -- are not going to know a few milligrams of mildly refined uranium from a multi-kilogram "soccerball" quantity necessary for an explosion. And, if you note his delivery at "The Circus", he presented it in terms of "Now we have THE goods!"

He worked to create the impression that now that Iran is "in the nuclear club" -- and "proved" it by having his dancers scamp about with the Precious Goods held treasured in their hands -- his people are supposed to think that, wow, he has THE uranium! Now, any time he wants, he can put it into the bombs, and destroy the infidel!

Yes, I know. This is stupid, puerile BS -- but that's the level that Middle Eastern propaganda operates on. Remember the "documentary film" showing how Those Filthy Jews murdered Sweet Young Arab Boys to drain their blood to make Matzoh? Tell me THAT is any LESS stupid and puerile!

So, it's a good cover story (in his twisted little mind). He shoots off his warheads, and then tells his people, "I never thought I would need to do this, but praise to allah, I had this uranium, you see, and the need was great, so I ordered our scientists to put the uranium into the bombs, so that we could cleans the world of the Zionist Entity, and..."

Yes, it's worse than the worst comicbook drivel. But, he'll try something like that -- and his audience likely WILL lap it up.

To his mind, he has covered all the bases. He eliminated any stories about his having purchased the nukes, since he has now "revealed" that Iran, "new member of the nuclear club", was forced to take their uranium (the uranium -- all of a few milligrams of it -- held up as if it was the Flag at Iwo Jima), and put it into "the bombs."

In the process, he "proves" that "Iran really DOES know how to make the uranium!", and, ensures the fealty of his subjects, and the admiration of "The Arab Street" (even though as a Persion, he despises Arabs -- and vice-versa.)

In short (yay! :) I see MAJOR Ugly Quotient potential shaping up. And I think that's why OUR side is acting a bit out of sorts. They know we are poised on the cusp of something potentially VERY ugly.

I think it entirely possible for the nukes to start flying at any time -- ANY time -- with no warning.

I hope the USA is able to deliver a killing blow BEFORE that happens.

71 posted on 04/14/2006 5:47:35 PM EDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)


87 posted on 04/14/2006 7:11:38 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Thane_Banquo

I interpret the comments as his way of raising the price of oil.


97 posted on 04/14/2006 7:21:19 PM PDT by new cruelty
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To: Thane_Banquo
Thane_Banquo wrote:
"I am starting to fear that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon specifically for use against Israel. Contextually, that's how I would interpret these comments."

Bob Eimiller wrote:
"I'm not trying to be smart but.... It boggles my mind that you JUST came to the conclusion."

Knitting A Conundrum wrote:
"Just starting? I've thought that's been obvious a long, long time..."

And sadly, for that reason, some Freepers have said that we should not try to stop Iran's nuclear weapons program. But there's more. Iran has its eye on more than Israel.

Iran issues stark military warning to United States
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1615310/posts

The enemy calls our USA the "big Israel," and Iran is developing and/or planning to assemble missiles in the near future with range enough to hit our country.
108 posted on 04/14/2006 7:49:11 PM PDT by familyop (Support our troops! Don't stop now!)
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To: Thane_Banquo
I am starting to fear that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon specifically for use against Israel. Contextually, that's how I would interpret these comments."

You are just now realize this?

133 posted on 04/14/2006 9:05:17 PM PDT by Brandie (I do not ask you to support our Troops, I tell you that you must or you are no friend of mine.)
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To: Thane_Banquo
I am starting to fear that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon specifically for use against Israel. Contextually, that's how I would interpret these comments.

Well, several years ago, and Iranian Mullah said that the deaths of several million muslims would be worth the destruction of Israel.

Mark

142 posted on 04/14/2006 9:47:31 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Will the world witness mushroom clouds within months to a year from now? It's not only a first the Iran may have nukes but it's also a first to actually threaten to use them. When it comes to nuclear war...just the threat could start it off. Israel may decide it's better to nuke them before they nuke first. I mean, if somebody points a gun at you and they say they want to kill you. Do you wait until they pull the trigger or do you pull yours first?

Will the liberals stand and protest the west on national tv and give this Iranian nut-case a false sense of support as they did to Saddam pre-Iraq War?

http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html


162 posted on 04/14/2006 11:56:18 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Iran's busy developing rockets with MIRV...multiple nuclear warheads targeting the West and the US. (Israel's just the first step. They drool over plans to obliterate the US.)


206 posted on 04/16/2006 5:22:19 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Thane_Banquo

You mean, with a star of David written on the side?


222 posted on 04/16/2006 10:26:45 AM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: Thane_Banquo

I am starting to fear that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon specifically for use against Israel. Contextually, that's how I would interpret these comments.



This is a dangerous Man. whenever someone like this starts
spewing this vile Hate at israel...watch out! They are planning an Attack.

The Jews had better be ready and retaliate with terrible Force. It is the only thing the Muslim Extreamists understand. Brute Force! No Mercy.. just Crush them.

Hit the Millitary and the leadership..and The Atomic weapons Factorys. Then Continue building the Fence.


227 posted on 04/16/2006 1:22:30 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Michael Ledeen has been saying for years that that's Iran's motive.


236 posted on 04/18/2006 12:24:28 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: Thane_Banquo

They are.


251 posted on 04/19/2006 9:41:05 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Ditto Bob's comment. I came to that conclusion years ago.


Iran wouldn't hesitate to use it against Israel or the U.S.. And they would likely use it through a terrorist connection and deny that they were responsible to minimize retaliation.

And unless we had reliable direct information from inside their adminstration, it would be hard to prove. It's not like a nuke leaves a lot of evidence.


257 posted on 04/20/2006 3:03:51 AM PDT by DannyTN
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