Posted on 04/14/2006 5:21:41 PM PDT by Btrp113Cav
A nuke detonated in that area will destroy all of the land, not just inside the borders of Israel. What part of that dont people understand?"
They don't care.
Living 7th Century lives with earlier rules in a 21st century world is more than they can contend with. They have been brainwashed better than any POW in history.
Plus all the lawns on base would look great!""
That's really funny!!!!
Ever more shrill and vociferous will grow the threats against Israel, as the international noose tightens around Irans neck.
Certainly the underground anti-Sharia movement in Iran is also putting the pressure on.
Those underground folks were addressed directly by the President in his last SOU.
Thats the biggest reason Iran wants the USA out of Iraq. The Iranians can't deliver a nuke by sea or by air. They want to drive it in by truck, and there are to many Marines in the way!
Don, what you posted is corroborated by Caroline B. Glick of the Jewish National Review on 7th of April:
[http://jewishworldreview.com/0406/glick040706.php3]
QUOTE:
This Monday Russia's Novaya Gazeta newspaper reported that part of Ukraine's Soviet-era nuclear arsenal may well have found its way to Iran. With the breakup of the Soviet Union, the Ukrainians agreed to transfer the Soviet nuclear arsenal that remained in Ukraine after independence to Russia. According to Novaya Gazeta, some 250 nuclear warheads never made it to Russia and are thought to have been sent to Iran instead. The report further noted that the warheads in question will remain operational until 2010.
UNQUOTE
There is more than enough reason now to be very,very concerned.I hope POTUS is on top of this.
It has gone beyond any sigle kill solution.
Note this from the Jewish World Review April 7th, describing an axis in the same shade of WWII's:
[http://jewishworldreview.com/0406/glick040706.php3]
Quote:
In February Canada's Globe and Mail published a report where Lebanese parliament member for Hizbullah terror group Hussein Hajj Hassan declared that on January 20 the Islamist axis was formally cemented in Damascus. The parley which brought about the entente was led by Ahmadinejad and attended by axis members, Syrian President Bashar Assad, Hizbullah chief Hassan Nasrallah, Hamas chief Khaled Mashal, Islamic Jihad chief Ramadan Abdullah Shalah and the commanders of PLO breakaway front groups. Iraqi Shiite terror chief Muqtada al-Sadr also pledged his allegiance to the axis. The jihad summit took place five days before the Palestinian elections and on the same day a suicide bomb exploded in Tel Aviv. Unquote
I wonder sometimes if you should have to have an "A" in introductory psychology to serve in government - at least so you would understand that if you reward a behavior you get more of it, not less.
When I was a kid in school, waaaaaaay back, back in the days when the Principal would get up on stage during assembly, and read the 23rd Psalm (always the 23rd Psalm!) -- in order to comply with the prayer in school law (In New York City of all places!)... it was back in those days, that they engaged in a practice that some genius decided would straighen out the school bullies.
Times were different then (late '50s, early '60s). By "school bullies", I mean "good kids" from "good homes" (AKA "lower middle class" dead-enders trapped in the middle of the Bronx) would go around beating up anyone smaller and weaker than them. Sometimes they'd "gang up" -- not "real" gangs -- there weren't such things. Just a half dozen or so kids twice the size of their target, whom they would beat the crap out of.
So, "The Educators" had "The Plan" to reform the bullies.
They made them into "Hallway Monitors".
I don't know about the rest of the world, but back there, back then, a "Hallway Monitor" was basically a little brownshirt with the authority to make your life a living hell -- if he felt like it. And, zero accountability.
Maybe it wasn't a "plan to reform the bullies" after all. Maybe it was all a big psych experiment, to get to evaluate a "group analog" of "the real brownshirts".
I mean, the parallels were striking, right down to the "Papers, please!" Any time, anywhere, any Hall Monitor stopped you, you had to show him respect (even though he was treating you like shit, and enjoying it), you had to comply with his orders (arbitrary, with no accountability), and, if you offended him, not only would he beat the crap out of you, but, he'd "write you up" (more or less the equivalent of a speeding ticket", at which point the BS escalated to the school proper (i.e., the Principal's office).
Looks like they didn't learn their lesson/did learn their lesson (it's all a matter of perspective, n'est ce pas?), judging by the way The West is sucking up to the Islamaniacs. They treat us poorly? The knock us around? Then by all means, let's be nice to them, and show them due deference.
At least we haven't given 'em the right to "write us up" at the "Principal's Office" (UN Security Council). Maybe that comes later, eh? :)
He later went on to say, "You have no chance to survive make your time!"
"Ahmadinnejad's head should be invaded and ventilated with a bullet:" Israeli people..
They are.
Iran could have a nuclear accident, if God wills it.
At least we haven't given 'em the right to "write us up" at the "Principal's Office" (UN Security Council). Maybe that comes later, eh? :)<<You know , Colin Powell once said that we spend half of our time and energy at the U.N. fending off attempts to pass unfair or inaccurate condemnations against Israel... maybe they don't directly after us but the principle is similar to the one you cite.
The US being at the UN is like the LAPD having "nonvoting membership" at the Crips and Bloods "gang councils", the DOJ having "novoting representation" at each of the Mafia "crime family" powwows, and, the DEA having "nonvoting seats" at the Medellín Cartel.
The main difference, of course, is the massive amount of money we continue to pour into that greedy, gaping maw, dedicated primarily to our destruction.
I'm thinking the prosaic definition of insanity is a good fit for the situation (trying the same thing over and over even though you always get the same results).
The only other possible explanation -- that fits the known situation -- is that we are playing along with the game, content to participate in our own destruction.
The existence of organizations like "United North America", which openly advocates for the end of the USA as a soverign nation (and, has an operative right here on FR, spouting his propaganda -- stalthily, to be sure, in the context of the criminal alien invasion from Mexico) -- not to mention the CFR's gameplan for merging the USA with Canada and Mexico (and their documents are posted on the White House website!), then one does tend to wonder.
Oh, right -- the outing of the "United North America" agent, here: A Sad State When Thought About(FR Opinion Poll) -- start with posts 150 and 151, which blow the whistle on this outfit.
Agent "Vicomte13" pinged as per FR practice.
"not to mention the CFR's gameplan for merging the USA with Canada and Mexico (and their documents are posted on the White House website!), then one does tend to wonde"
You know that is not anything at all like what the CFR actually says.
Their proposal is for a sophisitcated electronic security system at both bordersto expedite legitimate traffic and prevent illegals, smuggling and drugs.
>>Develop a border pass for North Americans. The chairs propose a border pass, with biometric indicators, which would allow expedited passage through customs, immigration, and airport security throughout North America.<<
http://www.cfr.org/publication/7914/trinational_call_for_a_north_american_economic_and_security_community_by_2010.html
"Outfit"?
You're delusional, kid.
You've started on one thread and spilling over to the next.
Perhaps we should clear this up, again.
"United North America" is a website, not an "outfit".
It's a website started by a nice young Canadian fellow who has always dreamed about Canada joining the USA. I found the site years ago, and when I was a kid I too thought that it was a shame that Canada slipped from the grasp of the USA twice. I think it would be grand if Canadian provinces individually joined the USA as American states.
I recognize that it's an amusing pipe dream, a romantic notion. And if you troubled yourself to go over there, open the forum, and track through, oh, about 500 or 600 of my posts, you'd see variations on the same themes that I post here.
United North America barely talks about actually uniting the countries anymore, because Canadians hate the idea, and obviously anything other than Canada dissolving itself and coming into the USA, under the US Constitution, as states, is the only things Americans (including myself) would even consider.
Now, I look at the advance of the EU, and I think about how much strength that organization has given to the small countries of Europe. Collectively they are an economic superpower. And I still have the romantic ideal that Canada should be, after all, part of the US.
But you're lost in some sort of fantasy about having rooted out a "secret agent" from some organization. It's looney.
Really. Do yourself a favor. If you're going to go nuts here, go over onto the UNA Board, go to the General Forum, and start pulling up the recent messages from Vicomte 13 and work back. You'll find there's plenty of talk about the Iraq war, about Iran, about a great number of other things - that's what happens there: Canadians and Americans are not all that different, and they jawbone, sort of like here.
You're going nuts over nothing, and it's embarrassing to watch.
Oh, by the way, yes, sometimes I do go to the Council on Foreign Relations luncheons in New York. They always have very interesting speakers and debates, and you meet some fascinating people there. I'd highly recommend it, if you ever have the opportunity.
Ditto Bob's comment. I came to that conclusion years ago.
Iran wouldn't hesitate to use it against Israel or the U.S.. And they would likely use it through a terrorist connection and deny that they were responsible to minimize retaliation.
And unless we had reliable direct information from inside their adminstration, it would be hard to prove. It's not like a nuke leaves a lot of evidence.
This isn't 1980, or whenever it was that Israel took out the nuclear reactor. Nor will this be any easy task for the United States. Look at this. The world's only superpower is in a prolonged punching battle with basically guerillas. This could go on forever. These people don't have the will to surrender. Their fight and their resolve dates back to Caan and Able. Israel is aware of this. So is Bush (now).
Nuke Iran? Who? Where? How many? Then what? What if they miss? What if they fail? What if cook ball runs underground? The attack fails?
It took months if not years to find Saddam. It was a fluke, more or less an accident, or a stroke of good luck. Lessons learned......
The U.N. is not really being pushed by the administration this time around, and understandably.
This is a real crisis.
Russia and China are on the wrong side. I think Bush is telling Hu that he will attack Iran very soon if talks fail. Put your money on it. Look for China to become very assertive with Iran shortly.
Bush no longer trusts Putin. They're out of the equation at this point, which makes this an even tougher road.
Nothing to worry about that's just how Arabs say "hello"
Submarine fleet doesn't worry me. Harmless immigrants, with offices in upper floors of downtown office buildings, making long trips, carrying small suitcases, they worry me.
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