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To: gondramB; hershey
"Any time the West/Israel/the US back down or make conciliatory moves/statements in the face of Arab bad behavior, it encourages worse behavior."

I wonder sometimes if you should have to have an "A" in introductory psychology to serve in government - at least so you would understand that if you reward a behavior you get more of it, not less.

When I was a kid in school, waaaaaaay back, back in the days when the Principal would get up on stage during assembly, and read the 23rd Psalm (always the 23rd Psalm!) -- in order to comply with the prayer in school law (In New York City of all places!)... it was back in those days, that they engaged in a practice that some genius decided would straighen out the school bullies.

Times were different then (late '50s, early '60s). By "school bullies", I mean "good kids" from "good homes" (AKA "lower middle class" dead-enders trapped in the middle of the Bronx) would go around beating up anyone smaller and weaker than them. Sometimes they'd "gang up" -- not "real" gangs -- there weren't such things. Just a half dozen or so kids twice the size of their target, whom they would beat the crap out of.

So, "The Educators" had "The Plan" to reform the bullies.

They made them into "Hallway Monitors".

I don't know about the rest of the world, but back there, back then, a "Hallway Monitor" was basically a little brownshirt with the authority to make your life a living hell -- if he felt like it. And, zero accountability.

Maybe it wasn't a "plan to reform the bullies" after all. Maybe it was all a big psych experiment, to get to evaluate a "group analog" of "the real brownshirts".

I mean, the parallels were striking, right down to the "Papers, please!" Any time, anywhere, any Hall Monitor stopped you, you had to show him respect (even though he was treating you like shit, and enjoying it), you had to comply with his orders (arbitrary, with no accountability), and, if you offended him, not only would he beat the crap out of you, but, he'd "write you up" (more or less the equivalent of a speeding ticket", at which point the BS escalated to the school proper (i.e., the Principal's office).

Looks like they didn't learn their lesson/did learn their lesson (it's all a matter of perspective, n'est ce pas?), judging by the way The West is sucking up to the Islamaniacs. They treat us poorly? The knock us around? Then by all means, let's be nice to them, and show them due deference.

At least we haven't given 'em the right to "write us up" at the "Principal's Office" (UN Security Council). Maybe that comes later, eh? :)

247 posted on 04/19/2006 3:04:45 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe
>> Looks like they didn't learn their lesson/did learn their lesson (it's all a matter of perspective, n'est ce pas?), judging by the way The West is sucking up to the Islamaniacs. They treat us poorly? The knock us around? Then by all means, let's be nice to them, and show them due deference.

At least we haven't given 'em the right to "write us up" at the "Principal's Office" (UN Security Council). Maybe that comes later, eh? :)<<

You know , Colin Powell once said that we spend half of our time and energy at the U.N. fending off attempts to pass unfair or inaccurate condemnations against Israel... maybe they don't directly after us but the principle is similar to the one you cite.
248 posted on 04/19/2006 9:15:26 AM PDT by gondramB (You can always tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs - Country music saying)
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