At least we haven't given 'em the right to "write us up" at the "Principal's Office" (UN Security Council). Maybe that comes later, eh? :)<<You know , Colin Powell once said that we spend half of our time and energy at the U.N. fending off attempts to pass unfair or inaccurate condemnations against Israel... maybe they don't directly after us but the principle is similar to the one you cite.
The US being at the UN is like the LAPD having "nonvoting membership" at the Crips and Bloods "gang councils", the DOJ having "novoting representation" at each of the Mafia "crime family" powwows, and, the DEA having "nonvoting seats" at the Medellín Cartel.
The main difference, of course, is the massive amount of money we continue to pour into that greedy, gaping maw, dedicated primarily to our destruction.
I'm thinking the prosaic definition of insanity is a good fit for the situation (trying the same thing over and over even though you always get the same results).
The only other possible explanation -- that fits the known situation -- is that we are playing along with the game, content to participate in our own destruction.
The existence of organizations like "United North America", which openly advocates for the end of the USA as a soverign nation (and, has an operative right here on FR, spouting his propaganda -- stalthily, to be sure, in the context of the criminal alien invasion from Mexico) -- not to mention the CFR's gameplan for merging the USA with Canada and Mexico (and their documents are posted on the White House website!), then one does tend to wonder.
Oh, right -- the outing of the "United North America" agent, here: A Sad State When Thought About(FR Opinion Poll) -- start with posts 150 and 151, which blow the whistle on this outfit.
Agent "Vicomte13" pinged as per FR practice.
"not to mention the CFR's gameplan for merging the USA with Canada and Mexico (and their documents are posted on the White House website!), then one does tend to wonde"
You know that is not anything at all like what the CFR actually says.
Their proposal is for a sophisitcated electronic security system at both bordersto expedite legitimate traffic and prevent illegals, smuggling and drugs.
>>Develop a border pass for North Americans. The chairs propose a border pass, with biometric indicators, which would allow expedited passage through customs, immigration, and airport security throughout North America.<<
http://www.cfr.org/publication/7914/trinational_call_for_a_north_american_economic_and_security_community_by_2010.html
"Outfit"?
You're delusional, kid.
You've started on one thread and spilling over to the next.
Perhaps we should clear this up, again.
"United North America" is a website, not an "outfit".
It's a website started by a nice young Canadian fellow who has always dreamed about Canada joining the USA. I found the site years ago, and when I was a kid I too thought that it was a shame that Canada slipped from the grasp of the USA twice. I think it would be grand if Canadian provinces individually joined the USA as American states.
I recognize that it's an amusing pipe dream, a romantic notion. And if you troubled yourself to go over there, open the forum, and track through, oh, about 500 or 600 of my posts, you'd see variations on the same themes that I post here.
United North America barely talks about actually uniting the countries anymore, because Canadians hate the idea, and obviously anything other than Canada dissolving itself and coming into the USA, under the US Constitution, as states, is the only things Americans (including myself) would even consider.
Now, I look at the advance of the EU, and I think about how much strength that organization has given to the small countries of Europe. Collectively they are an economic superpower. And I still have the romantic ideal that Canada should be, after all, part of the US.
But you're lost in some sort of fantasy about having rooted out a "secret agent" from some organization. It's looney.
Really. Do yourself a favor. If you're going to go nuts here, go over onto the UNA Board, go to the General Forum, and start pulling up the recent messages from Vicomte 13 and work back. You'll find there's plenty of talk about the Iraq war, about Iran, about a great number of other things - that's what happens there: Canadians and Americans are not all that different, and they jawbone, sort of like here.
You're going nuts over nothing, and it's embarrassing to watch.
Oh, by the way, yes, sometimes I do go to the Council on Foreign Relations luncheons in New York. They always have very interesting speakers and debates, and you meet some fascinating people there. I'd highly recommend it, if you ever have the opportunity.