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Zogby: Most Americans Oppose Amnesty
NewsMax ^ | 13 April 2006 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 04/12/2006 5:46:36 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

A majority of Americans said they oppose amnesty for illegal aliens, so-called "undocumented workers" from other nations who are already residing in the United States, according to a recent Zogby International survey.

While 52 percent said there should be no amnesty, 32 percent said they would favor amnesty for illegal aliens who currently reside in the United States.

The U.S. Congress has estimated that there are 11 million illegal immigrants now living in America. Amnesty was offered to people in this category during the Reagan administration, but it did little to stem the tide of illegal immigration into the country, primarily via the U.S.-Mexico border.

As Congress now works on immigration reform legislation in Washington, the survey shows there is a significant partisan divide on this question. Among self-identified Democrats nationwide, 51 percent favor amnesty, while 29 percent oppose it. Another 20 percent said they are unsure on the issue.

Among self-identified Republicans participating in the survey, just 13 percent said they favor amnesty, while 76 percent said they oppose such an offer.

A majority of political independents are opposed to offering amnesty – 50 percent said they are against it, while 33 percent said they are in favor of it.

This question also divides the nation based on age of the respondents. While younger respondents favor amnesty in greater numbers, older likely voters do not.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; cira; illegals; immigrationreform; polls; zogby
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Reckon they can read this in DC?
1 posted on 04/12/2006 5:46:37 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

No


2 posted on 04/12/2006 5:48:45 PM PDT by captain_dave
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To: Aussie Dasher

Notice that 51% Democrats already support amnesty. This will grow and this whole mess will become one of the divide issues between liberals and conservatives.


3 posted on 04/12/2006 5:50:44 PM PDT by putupjob
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To: Aussie Dasher

Nope.


4 posted on 04/12/2006 5:51:03 PM PDT by Riley ("What color is the boathouse at Hereford?")
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To: Aussie Dasher

Most do not support amnesty?

What if all Americans heard their leader say on CNN that they are shutting down all our ports, threatening the security of our PORTS people!

Would all Americans demand they never get amnesty than? Never be allowed citizenship than?

Well as I said on CNN Lou Dobbs tonight thats exactly what they threatened and port security was told and they are increasing security.


5 posted on 04/12/2006 5:52:25 PM PDT by stopem (Happy Easter, He Has Risen! Allelujia!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
There is another poll suggesting that only 20% of Americans support HR-4437.

Pick and choose the polls you like

6 posted on 04/12/2006 5:52:41 PM PDT by daivid
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To: Aussie Dasher

Sounds to me like the truth lies somewhere closer to 75% against.


7 posted on 04/12/2006 6:12:10 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Aussie Dasher

These so-called polls have been all over the map.


8 posted on 04/12/2006 6:13:16 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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If Congress and the President are ultimately only willing to offer a "virtual wall" to prevent unauthorized entry of foreign aliens into this country over our southern border with Mexico, why should the "estimated 11 million" "undocumented' aliens currently living in the US be offered anything more than "virtual amnesty"in return?

"Amnesty": an act by authority by which a pardon is granted to a large number of persons for past transgressions. Interstingly derived from the same root as amnesia.

"Virtual Amnesty". You can stay as long as and only as long as,

a) you have a job no american wants -- if an American shows up at your place of employment and asks for your job at any rate of pay up to 200% of your current wage and such person is ready able and capable of assuming your duties, you can move aside and leave. You have 60 days to find new employment or leave the country;

b) all your pay is reported as income to governmental authority and social security and income tax is properly withheld and paid (aliens are not eligible to receive social security benefits, the money would fund the inadequate SS reserve);

c) you pay all your own expenses and do not receive any public assistance for housing, medical care, food stamsp, aid to dependant children, or public education;

d) if you do receive public assistance, such as for emergency medical care, you will reimburse the full costs of any assistance received; if you are here with a spouse, family or 'domestic partner' de jure, your offspring are not U.S citizens, you waive that right on their behalf by remaining here.;

e) if you have children of school age, public authority will provide you with books, software and programs authorized for home schooling families. Statiistics indicate this is a much effective and valuable educational assistance than participating in public education;

f) you will not engage while in the United States in any political activity;

g) in particular you will not vote or attempt to vote;

h) membership, participation, active support or conspiracy with any organized criminal gang shall be the equivalent of a "third strke" felony. Conviction of same shall mean immediate and permanent deportation or incarceration for life at the option of the government. A criminal history prior to US entry shall be grounds for immediate deportation with a permanent bar to reentry;

i) If you commit any "malum per se" or "specific intent" crimes while present in the U.S, you shall serve your sentence and then be deported with a permanent bar to reentry;

j) At all times, any and all covered persons shall carry upon their person, sufficient and accurate identifying information as to the covered persons, identity, place of residence in the US., country of national citizenship, date of birth, place of birth, names of parents, and dates of entry into the United States; and,

k) At no time shall a covered person occupy, hold, or be compensated for performing any public sector job or position.

Conditions of limited license to remain in the US:

By electing to remain within US territory on or after 30 days after the enactment of this legislation, a covered individual voluntarily waives any protections of law, including any application of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, and consents at any reasonable time and upon any reasonable circumstance, such as but not limited to in any public place at any time, to being detained for a reasonable time without suspicion or other cause by law enforcement in order for governmental authority to verify the persons identity and compliance with these "tempory worker" statutes.

"Jail Tax" All covered persons and only such persons shall be subject to a 10% tax on income earned over and above all other taxes and assessments on income, to fund reimbursement of state and federal penal incarceration of undocumented aliens

Citizenship: If and when an applicant can affirmatively demonstrate 10 continuous years of compliance with the foregoing, or alternatively upon completion of a full term of service with any branch of the Armed Services of the United States resulting in an honorable discharge; and,
If and when the applciant can demonstrate fluency in the English language; and,

If and when the applicant can demonstrate a 12th grade equivalency of knowledge of American history and American literature and American Laws

Said applicant may then apply for American citizenship.

Notwithstanding any of the above, not more than 750,000 complying alien persons shall in any year become citizens of the United States.


9 posted on 04/12/2006 6:15:13 PM PDT by Gail Wynand (Why not "virtual citizenship")
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To: Aussie Dasher
Can't trust Zogby >>> zobby calls it for kerry!!!
10 posted on 04/12/2006 6:15:54 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Aussie Dasher

The reason amnesty doesn't stem the tide of illegal immigrants is that it encourages immigrants to believe amnesty will someday be offerred to them, Duh!


11 posted on 04/12/2006 6:16:39 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: putupjob

Democrats also support dead voting rights and the felon vote. They are counting no getting a vote of support for their stance on amnesty; US citizen opinion be damned.


12 posted on 04/12/2006 6:27:49 PM PDT by weegee ("CBS NEWS? Is that show still on?" - freedomson)
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To: popdonnelly
AS this wave of immigrants "moves up" in their job skills (and I have heard a liberal brag about this), there will be new waves of illegal immigrants who are willing to do lower class work and do it for less pay.

That is "supposedly" why we are tolerant of this labor force today.
13 posted on 04/12/2006 6:29:47 PM PDT by weegee ("CBS NEWS? Is that show still on?" - freedomson)
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To: putupjob
The Democrats will shortly decide they really don't support amnesty since up to 15 million Pakistanis and Indians will suddenly show up with all the requisite evidence that they've lived here for 15+ years.

Last thing they want is a new immigrant community that knows how to compete.

14 posted on 04/12/2006 6:33:47 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Documentation and fingerprint; then welcome to the U.S. We all are immigrants. Keep out those who are enemies. Mexico is a friendly neighbor, let's not forget. People are wanting to better themselves, God made plenty for everybody.


15 posted on 04/12/2006 6:43:45 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: yldstrk
Documentation and fingerprint; then welcome to the U.S. We all are immigrants. Keep out those who are enemies. Mexico is a friendly neighbor, let's not forget. People are wanting to better themselves, God made plenty for everybody.

You forgot the "< /s>" to indicate sarcasm. Didn't you?

16 posted on 04/12/2006 6:52:03 PM PDT by Fairview
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To: Aussie Dasher
Zogby: Most Americans Oppose Amnesty

clintonh8r: Most Politicians Don't Care

17 posted on 04/12/2006 7:00:15 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: Gail Wynand

Nobody should ever be able to obtain US citizenship as the product of committing a crime...period.


18 posted on 04/12/2006 7:01:56 PM PDT by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: Aussie Dasher

what this tells me is that our side has to keep this as the focus - don't get bogged down in this "make it a felony" stuff.


19 posted on 04/12/2006 7:02:54 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Aussie Dasher
A majority of Americans said they oppose amnesty for illegal aliens, so-called "undocumented workers" from other nations who are already residing in the United States, according to a recent Zogby International survey

If today they are legal and yesterday they were illegal then something happened in between, that something is called amnesty.

20 posted on 04/12/2006 7:11:50 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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