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The new 'Republicans vote on Wednesday' game (FR mentioned)
Townhall.com ^ | April 12, 2006 | Dustin Hawkins

Posted on 04/12/2006 1:07:47 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too

We’ve all seen the e-mail sent out days before an election: “Democrats vote on Tuesday, Republicans vote on Wednesday. Don’t forget to vote! Wink, wink.” Or vice versa. Republicans can be just as juvenile. Generally speaking, such “friendly reminders” are sent as a joke, which then may or may not actually trick a few people. Probably those who are tricked are better off not voting anyway, but that is another point altogether. (In case you haven’t voted recently, everyone votes on Tuesday.)

But there seems to be a new “Republicans vote on Wednesday” taking form in time for the 2006 election. This effort targets grassroots conservatives known for their passionate views about issues who may be open to a grassroots voting rebellion. But the effort is being led, or at the very least aided, by liberals pretending to be grassroots conservatives, as opposed to actual grassroots conservatives themselves.

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But the pretend-conservative act is being carried onto a whole new playing field, one that has become wildly influential over the past few years and one that does not stand to be instantly recognized as a fake. That playing field is the blogosphere, which is then used in conjunction with massive e-mailings to “spread the word” (as one e-mailer insisted I do to my readers/e-mail list) to other conservatives.

The concept is the same: the blog or e-mail claims, first, that the said writer has been a conservative for years and that they have “had it with Republicans.”

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To: Miss Marple

I think that's exactly what is happening. Also, every time we are mentioned in mainstream media outlets, it is a two-edged sword. Certainly some conservatives take note of the name and check out the website. And I'll bet they aren't terribly impressed by what they are seeing here lately.

Media types and malcontents and troublemakers come here too, I am certain, and either lay low for a while to establish their credentials and then stir up trouble when they see an opportunity. And for some reason, they saw immigration as something they could use to stir up trouble for conservatives and the talk radio hosts, reading this site like they do, jumped on the band wagon.

I have only met one person in real life who is concerned about the immigration issue, for instance. Until recently -- now that the media is focusing on it. And I think the media is focusing on it because they are focusing on the blogs and sites like this one.

Now, maybe real conservatives are horribly upset about the issue and I'm just out of the loop as a conservative. I could be overly suspicious. But the book Hillary's Secret War told how through cookies (or something like that) JR and other web site owners could trace where posters were coming from and we had a lot of posters coming from the Clinton WH and the Washington Post, etc.

But in fewer words, you named it nicely. A fake trend. hah


81 posted on 04/12/2006 7:04:51 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Oliver Optic

" I won't fault anyone for voting their conscience. I do the 'Republican-or-Constitution-Party' dance every four years myself. But in times like these, it is vital that conservative Americans behave like adults. There is a difference between voting on principle and throwing a tantrum. 'Staying home' is foolish. Voting Democrat is unconscionable."

Amen to that BUMP!


82 posted on 04/12/2006 7:06:08 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff and the President related?)
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To: steve-b

"That's a fairly transparent fake."

Well, at least fairly long-lived poster here has threatened to do so. I still don't understand why. I posted to them recently, but I forget the Freepername.


83 posted on 04/12/2006 7:08:30 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff and the President related?)
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To: Peach; Miss Marple
My mind may be completely abandoning me, but I recall that recently there was a story posted talking about changing strategy from talk show hosts due to the change in what their listeners wanted. You know, the riled up base.

I haven't been able to find it. But I believe you are absolutely accurate. When what happens here is so different than what is happening out in the "real world" I trust this less.

Anyway, I'll keep looking for that thread. Do you remember it?
84 posted on 04/12/2006 7:09:14 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish
No, I'm sorry, but I don't. I had about three weeks where I was out of the loop last month with flu and the sudden illness and death of my mother, so I missed a lot.

It wouldn't surprise me. Certain hosts seem to follow the trends on here like lemmings. They are NOT the first to express those opinions, but rather start talking about them a day or two after they have popped up here.

Frankly, I would be interested in knowing the Arbitron ratings for some of these folks, to see if there has been a DROP in listeners in the last month or two. I no longer listen to most of them, and have switched to listening to Catholic radio and EWTN. I read FR and check some local newssites, but I just can't take all of the ridiculous hyperbole any more. (HANNITY, ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION??)

85 posted on 04/12/2006 7:18:09 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: pollyannaish

Vaguely. As well, although I've hardly had FNC on with the exception of Brit Hume, one morning this week or last week, in the morning, the hosts were asking people to call in to vote on which of 3 stories they wanted to hear more about. And I thought, that's what's going on on the web too -- we're driving the media. And given what FR has become, that is NOT a good thing.


86 posted on 04/12/2006 7:32:40 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Political Junkie Too

Let me post the entire article, it's permitted from Townhall.

An excellent find, thanks for the post.

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The new 'Republicans vote on Wednesday' game
By Dustin Hawkins

Apr 12, 2006


We’ve all seen the e-mail sent out days before an election: “Democrats vote on Tuesday, Republicans vote on Wednesday. Don’t forget to vote! Wink, wink.” Or vice versa. Republicans can be just as juvenile. Generally speaking, such “friendly reminders” are sent as a joke, which then may or may not actually trick a few people. Probably those who are tricked are better off not voting anyway, but that is another point altogether. (In case you haven’t voted recently, everyone votes on Tuesday.)

But there seems to be a new “Republicans vote on Wednesday” taking form in time for the 2006 election. This effort targets grassroots conservatives known for their passionate views about issues who may be open to a grassroots voting rebellion. But the effort is being led, or at the very least aided, by liberals pretending to be grassroots conservatives, as opposed to actual grassroots conservatives themselves.

The premise follows a scheme previously found most often on talk radio programs: a liberal activist calls a conservative radio host, such as Rush Limbaugh or Laura Ingraham, and delivers the line: “I’ve been voting Republican for 30 years, but I’ve finally had it and I’m not voting this year.” Or my favorite: “I’m a Reagan Republican, but I’m fed up and voting for John Kerry.” (Because that is what Reagan Republicans would do, vote for John Kerry.) At this point, the host usually asks a couple of questions and it becomes painfully obvious that the supposed Reagan Republican has probably never voted for anyone left of Michael Dukakis.

The intentions are clear: the caller hopes to make it appear as though there is already a large uprising of conservatives who are rebelling against GOP candidates, and thus, wishes to incite other Republicans to pick up the same attitude and pass it along, leading to the Democrat becoming more competitive. The successes of such a strategy on voting habits are unclear, especially given that the conservative radio host often refutes the caller’s talking points.

But the pretend-conservative act is being carried onto a whole new playing field, one that has become wildly influential over the past few years and one that does not stand to be instantly recognized as a fake. That playing field is the blogosphere, which is then used in conjunction with massive e-mailings to “spread the word” (as one e-mailer insisted I do to my readers/e-mail list) to other conservatives.

The concept is the same: the blog or e-mail claims, first, that the said writer has been a conservative for years and that they have “had it with Republicans.” They then point to an issue that conservatives would likely be upset about such as excessive spending, immigration, or the expansion of government. Their supposed rage over the issue has convinced them to either not show up to vote in 2006, or, in order to really show Republicans, vote for the Democrat instead.

The blogs and e-mails are convincing in their wording and could incite the sort of reaction that occurred following the Harriet Miers nomination to the Supreme Court. Of course, any liberal could read Free Republic and find out what’s irritating conservatives this week, grab a handful of phrases, and toss it on their “I’m a conservative but voting for a Democratic because of (insert issue here)” blog. After tossing in a few posts about the evils of Hillary Clinton and abortion, the blog is now being run by a bona-fide “conservative.” A few e-mails and link connections later, the message of conservatives voting against Republicans is spread.

Now, I won’t dispute that there are probably some conservatives that might actually sit out the election or vote for a third party candidate, but probably not enough to actually swing an election. (Unless of course a “conservative” grassroots effort gets well-underway to change that.) What I do dispute is the idea that such an idea is already widespread. Last week alone I received more than ten e-mails or links to recently created blogs that pretty much say the same thing, and it is only April.

One “conservative” e-mailer and blogger, later found to be a fraud, started by saying that over a dozen of his conservative friends were going to campaign against their Republican candidate (one in a tight race) because of his stance on immigration, and another dozen of his friends had already stated they would vote against him. The blog had been up less than a month, adding to my suspicions.

I have more than a handful of conservative friends and surprisingly – or not so surprisingly – not one has taken such a position, despite our shared frustrations over many Republicans in the House and Senate. In general, my acquaintances take the position that it is better to vote for someone who is good on 8 out of 10 issues than bad on 9 out of ten.

Curious about the e-mail, I began a back-and-forth emailing with the “grassroots conservative,” pretended to agree with him, and two days later it became painfully obvious that he was far from a grassroots conservative. When I called the blogger out on his bogus scheme, he responded only with: “Win some, lose some.” The election games have begun.


Dustin Hawkins is a Townhall.com political reporter


87 posted on 04/12/2006 7:35:56 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Miss Marple
I completely agree. And while I do not get on the case of those who enjoy hosts like Savage because, well, to each his own...I don't want them ALL to be like Savage. I prefer hosts who are a little more reasoned and life affirming.

I'm sticking with Prager, Hewitt and Medved until things calm down. They pretty much articulate my positions well and fend off the over the top hysteria.

Speaking of life affirming, I am so sorry about all the upheaval in your life lately. Here is to a better few months ahead. I'll put you on my Prayer list if you don't mind.
88 posted on 04/12/2006 7:36:46 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, I didn't see anyone actually ping you to this and I am sure you wouldn't want to miss this.

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"But there seems to be a new “Republicans vote on Wednesday” taking form in time for the 2006 election. This effort targets grassroots conservatives known for their passionate views about issues who may be open to a grassroots voting rebellion. But the effort is being led, or at the very least aided, by liberals pretending to be grassroots conservatives, as opposed to actual grassroots conservatives themselves.

The concept is the same: the blog or e-mail claims, first, that the said writer has been a conservative for years and that they have “had it with Republicans.” They then point to an issue that conservatives would likely be upset about such as excessive spending, immigration, or the expansion of government. Their supposed rage over the issue has convinced them to either not show up to vote in 2006, or, in order to really show Republicans, vote for the Democrat instead.

The blogs and e-mails are convincing in their wording and could incite the sort of reaction that occurred following the Harriet Miers nomination to the Supreme Court. Of course, any liberal could read Free Republic and find out what’s irritating conservatives this week, grab a handful of phrases, and toss it on their “I’m a conservative but voting for a Democratic because of (insert issue here)” blog. After tossing in a few posts about the evils of Hillary Clinton and abortion, the blog is now being run by a bona-fide “conservative.” A few e-mails and link connections later, the message of conservatives voting against Republicans is spread."


89 posted on 04/12/2006 7:41:06 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Peach
I agree.

For all the wonderful things about the internet and forums and especially FreeRepublic...it is still a Masquerade Ball and I have seen enough movies to know just how easily those with nefarious intent use it's mysterious wonders to further their own goals and ambitions.

I don't think I've talked to you since you got back from vacation...so I hope it was terrific!
90 posted on 04/12/2006 7:42:01 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: sinkspur
"Thanks for the walk down memory lane, with the deplorable Arator:"

It writes like it wanted to be the winner of the William Rivers Pitt Soundalike Contest.
91 posted on 04/12/2006 7:42:42 PM PDT by decal (My name is "decal" and I approve this tagline)
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To: calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; Carry_Okie; Amerigomag

"But there seems to be a new “Republicans vote on Wednesday” taking form in time for the 2006 election. This effort targets grassroots conservatives known for their passionate views about issues who may be open to a grassroots voting rebellion. But the effort is being led, or at the very least aided, by liberals pretending to be grassroots conservatives, as opposed to actual grassroots conservatives themselves.

The concept is the same: the blog or e-mail claims, first, that the said writer has been a conservative for years and that they have “had it with Republicans.” They then point to an issue that conservatives would likely be upset about such as excessive spending, immigration, or the expansion of government. Their supposed rage over the issue has convinced them to either not show up to vote in 2006, or, in order to really show Republicans, vote for the Democrat instead.

The blogs and e-mails are convincing in their wording and could incite the sort of reaction that occurred following the Harriet Miers nomination to the Supreme Court. Of course, any liberal could read Free Republic and find out what’s irritating conservatives this week, grab a handful of phrases, and toss it on their “I’m a conservative but voting for a Democratic because of (insert issue here)” blog. After tossing in a few posts about the evils of Hillary Clinton and abortion, the blog is now being run by a bona-fide “conservative.” A few e-mails and link connections later, the message of conservatives voting against Republicans is spread."


92 posted on 04/12/2006 7:43:08 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: doodlelady

Thanks for the ping to this article unmasking the DICCs. :)

"But the pretend-conservative act is being carried onto a whole new playing field, one that has become wildly influential over the past few years and one that does not stand to be instantly recognized as a fake. That playing field is the blogosphere, which is then used in conjunction with massive e-mailings to “spread the word” (as one e-mailer insisted I do to my readers/e-mail list) to other conservatives."


93 posted on 04/12/2006 7:45:10 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
Wow! That post got removed!

-PJ

94 posted on 04/12/2006 7:47:42 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Howlin

In case you haven't seen this, please read this article and thread.


95 posted on 04/12/2006 7:57:21 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
"Probably those who are tricked are better off not voting anyway, but that is another point altogether."

The bottom line IMO.

96 posted on 04/12/2006 8:09:27 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Rest In Peace, Gene Pitney. 1941-2006)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

AMEN!


97 posted on 04/12/2006 8:10:19 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Rest In Peace, Gene Pitney. 1941-2006)
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To: FairOpinion
I heartily suggest that conservatives vote. No vote, no voice. Staying home on election day is counterproductive and an abrogation of our responsibilities as a citizen. Protests are conducted with small arms, not abstinence.

I suggest that conservatives vote for conservative candidates. Vote for a liberal and you'll elect a liberal.

I suggest that political philosophy, rather than party registration, remain a concern for conservatives. Vote the candidate, not the party.

98 posted on 04/12/2006 8:12:25 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag

Is that why you are promoting that people should vote for Angelides, because you consider him a conservative?


99 posted on 04/12/2006 8:14:54 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: kitkat
I wish Jim Rob would put a logo before each name based on the comments the poster has made.

Excellent idea! I'd pay more than $5 each month for THAT!

100 posted on 04/12/2006 8:18:27 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Rest In Peace, Gene Pitney. 1941-2006)
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