Coast-to-coast 'movement' rages on

THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | March 28, 2006 | Guy Taylor

[razorbak]

The Roman Catholic Church, dozens of grass-roots coalitions and Spanish-language radio disc jockeys have helped fuel protests nationwide against congressional efforts to tackle illegal immigration....

The Catholic Church has played a key role in opposing legislation to restrict immigration and rallying protesters....

"As we've been able to reach more and more people, they're waking up to the ills of the proposals made to date and seeing the need to be vocal about the kinds of reforms that would be more acceptable," said Mark D. Franken, executive director of migration and refugee services for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops....

The bishops conference in May began "Justice for Immigrants," a campaign focused on activating a network of grass-roots movements against punitive immigration-reform legislation....

Mr. Franken said all the nation's 197 Catholic dioceses are in some way backing the campaign, with more than 70 being particularly active. Disseminating pamphlets and networking, community-level groups tied to the campaign are operating "in churches and everywhere they can gain access," he said.

[Milly]

I couldn't live with the guilt. The people change in the church, yet cannon law never does. Sad you left.


Well said.

[bert]

The whole movement is Catholic. The population was produced by women who had priests drive home the need to procreate, procreate, procreate.

The Vatican has long known that the procreated mass would produce a pressure that could not be withstood.

The Vatican, which never accepted the concept of separation of church and state and is a de facto state, moves over the long term. The objective is capture of North America. The time required is a long as it takes.

[petkus]

Sending a letter to any of the Bishops is a waste of time.
As far as they are concerned, the bishops don't care what the other parishioners think about this issue!

My suggestion is to stop putting money in the collections on Sunday! This will get their attention. Let the Bishops depend on the illegals to support them in their lifestyles.

In our church the illegals place between $200 to $300 in the collection baskets on Sunday. All of their activities are supported by the other parishioners!

MONEY MATTERS TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND WILL HAVE A GREAT EFFECT ON THEIR SUPPORT FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!

[A.A. Cunningham]

Your tinfoil hat is too tight.

[sageb1]

Do you have a link to offer for your conspiracy theories?

[bert]

Will Durant, The Lessons of History

[Just mythoughts]

"Churches were the source of problems in Central America too.
They just love the leftist idiology. All the while the Churches are rolling on money and demanding the taxpayers use their money to promote socialism around the world."


Sadly something is missing big time in Mexico to make these people need to flee. Got to wonder where Hillry's separation of church and state begins and ends.

I notice that none of these liberals have any Biblical problems with the manner in which that country is governed.

Thing that ticks me off is the bearing of false witness done against the House bill.

[Tribune7]

The protest I've seen have been from Chicago and L.A.

There have been none in Philly (and we do have illegals). I have not seen any in Texas. Has there been?

[sageb1]

Durant was a socialist who left the Church and who thought Islam was a great religion.

[Mrs. Don-o]

"The population was produced by women who had priests drive home the need to procreate, procreate, procreate."

Bert, this may come as a big surprise to you, but I figure I've attended 5,000+ Masses in my lifetime (so far), and I have never once heard a priest mention any obligation to procreate.

Not even in our pre-marriage classes did a priest, or any other Catholic educator, even breathe the mere suggestion that my husband-to-be and I should think about procreating.

Some (non-Catholic) folks assume that we Catholic are hearing stern sermons against contraception and abortion, and explicit references to self-sacrificial moral duties, week after week at church. This is not the case. I wish it were, but it's not.

The fact is, most of us have to endure Sucralose sermons along the lines of "It's good to be good and it's nice to be nice."

The adult-level Catholic education we get--- including encouragement to be generous in the bearing and raising of children --- we've sought out and gotten on our own.

[nickcarraway]

I guess the people who are supporting this have no compassion for the majority of people in Mexico who are stuck with a corrupt government and less opportunity, because the government encourages the most productive citizens to leave, to remain in power.

[GOP Poet]

And I was thinking about going back to the Catholic church, because I am uncomfortable with the rising liberalism in my local Christian church that is increasingly effecting sermons and even how mass is structured. Well, looks like the LA diocese won't be getting this lady anytime soon. Thank you Jesus! :-)

P.S. No offense to any practicing Catholics on this site. I really, really admire conservative Catholic believers.

[kstewskis]

""2241 ...Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants'duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.""

Thank you. Only some clergy aid and abet criminals.

Yeah, especially this piece of work

[EternalVigilance]

Welcome to FR!

[bert]

You are not in Mexico......

[pissant]

The trend in the Catholic Church has been more towards tradition and conservatism lately. So come help shift the tide even further.

[Just mythoughts]

"I guess the people who are supporting this have no compassion for the majority of people in Mexico who are stuck with a corrupt government and less opportunity, because the government encourages the most productive citizens to leave, to remain in power."


WRONG! How about put pressure on the ruling class in Mexico to treat their people with dignity and living wage jobs. If we do not then there are plenty in our Congress who would love to replicate the Mexican form of government.

[bert]

And is much admired and quoted by the history prof Newt Gingrich.

[Jaded]

LA is off the chart with their creative theology.

[irishjuggler]

What the Catholic Church is doing is really demeaning to their own mostly blue-collar members, who have gotten the boot from their own employers in favor of hiring illegals. These are the same people whose children were molested by the Catholic Clergy too. When will some people learn?

Gee, can you cram any more stereotypes in there? I don't support the bishops' position on this issue, but your post is ridiculous.

First of all, the Catholic Church in the U.S. is no more "blue collar" than the nation's population as a whole. In fact, the U.S. Catholic Church likely has a higher percentage of white-collar and professional members than all but a few denominations (e.g., Episcopalians). Second, your suggestion that the (mythical) average, blue-collar Catholic also is the parent of a molestation victim is absurd. The Catholic Church's so-called sex-abuse scandal has involved only a tiny percentage of priests and a statistically insignificant percentage of Catholic children.