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Coast-to-coast 'movement' rages on
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | March 28, 2006 | Guy Taylor

Posted on 03/28/2006 2:18:36 PM PST by razorbak

The Roman Catholic Church, dozens of grass-roots coalitions and Spanish-language radio disc jockeys have helped fuel protests nationwide against congressional efforts to tackle illegal immigration....

The Catholic Church has played a key role in opposing legislation to restrict immigration and rallying protesters....

"As we've been able to reach more and more people, they're waking up to the ills of the proposals made to date and seeing the need to be vocal about the kinds of reforms that would be more acceptable," said Mark D. Franken, executive director of migration and refugee services for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops....

The bishops conference in May began "Justice for Immigrants," a campaign focused on activating a network of grass-roots movements against punitive immigration-reform legislation....

Mr. Franken said all the nation's 197 Catholic dioceses are in some way backing the campaign, with more than 70 being particularly active. Disseminating pamphlets and networking, community-level groups tied to the campaign are operating "in churches and everywhere they can gain access," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at insider.washingtontimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: catholics; fifthcolumn; hispanics; illegals; intifada; mexico; nacos
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
I see that leaving the Church has advanced the level of your discourse. Not all Catholic Churches and priests are like the one you evidently experienced.
21 posted on 03/28/2006 2:49:03 PM PST by CWW (GOP 2008 Dream Ticket -- George Allen (Pres) and Mark Sanford (V.P.))
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
St. Francis de Sales called that committing spiritual suicide.
22 posted on 03/28/2006 2:49:27 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: tbird5

I like all believers in all churches. But it is their Leaders you have to watch.


23 posted on 03/28/2006 2:51:50 PM PST by zipp_city
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To: razorbak

I have repeatedly told all of you this and have been flamed for it. Oh well...


24 posted on 03/28/2006 2:53:20 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: zipp_city; tbird5

Curses, foiled again! Sorry, Benedict. Pack up your idols, for our devious papist schemes have been laid bare and we must retreat to Rome, the whore of Babylon!


25 posted on 03/28/2006 2:54:59 PM PST by j.havenfarm (Issuing my fatwas from the holy city of Auburn, California.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham; CWW; tbird5

I understand your sympathies.

However, I had different priests in differnt churches in different cities in the 70s an 80s who sounded like they were quoting from the Communist Manifesto instead of the bible. Most priests in the Catholic Church tend to lean toward socialist preachings.


26 posted on 03/28/2006 2:55:43 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (The purpose of this forum is to fight socialism (see FR homepage), not to defend Republicans.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

Not all of them. My personal experience is that certain orders, like the recent history of the Jesuits, are more apt to be populated with socialists/communists. Joseph Fessio is one exception. The number of devout, faithful Priests that I've met in my life far outweigh the number of kooks, commies and criminals. I don't base my belief in the Constitution on its interpretation by the Clintons nor do I base my Catholicism on the interpretation of the deposit of faith by socialists/communists masquerading as Priests.


27 posted on 03/28/2006 3:10:10 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Blzbba

Absolutely. Take away the tax exemption, now.


28 posted on 03/28/2006 3:12:12 PM PST by isrul
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

No matter how bad a priest is, his behavior is not going to stop me from confession and communion. The catholic church has been here since Jesus started it and I am just one person in that long history. The catholic church has had horrible leaders in its history, yet it continues to stand. It is greater than me.


29 posted on 03/28/2006 3:12:57 PM PST by tbird5
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To: razorbak; Blzbba; OldFriend; pissant; pulaskibush; zerosix; kstewskis; D1X1E; DCPatriot; ...
Search Result
Catechism of the Catholic Church

"2241 ...Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants'duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens."

If you want to know what the Catholic Church teaches, your best bet is to go to the Catechism, which happens to be searchable online:

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm

On immigration:

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2241.htm

If you're going to write to your Bishop, maybe this is the part you should emphasize. (Go ahead, introduce your Bishop to Catholic doctrine...it'll do him good...)

30 posted on 03/28/2006 3:15:15 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Solo Dios Basta.)
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To: kstewskis

Bump


31 posted on 03/28/2006 3:16:04 PM PST by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: Blzbba

As a Catholic, all of this commie "social justice" crap within the church gets my blood boiling. This is what the liberal "reforms" of Vatican II have foisted upon us (or the misdeeds that have been done in "the spirit of Vatican II", anyway). Many Orthodox Traditional Catholics want nothing to do with this crap, or the creeping modernism (liberalism) which is pervading the church, and slowly destroying it.

This is why I have stopped going to my local parish, and now drive 30 miles to the one Traditional Conservative parish that is allowed to exist in my diocese. From what I have heard from other embattled Catholics, I feel lucky to have one THAT close.

The problems of liberalism are infesting the Catholic and Protestant churches, just like they are infesting society at large. Unfortunately, people see these articles about liberal Catholics in the news media, and assume the entire church buys into the big lie hook, line, and sinker. Nothing could be futher from the truth. There are also Conservatives there, who are fighting the good fight. But we seem to be outnumbered in the United States.


32 posted on 03/28/2006 3:19:51 PM PST by Zetman (This secret to simple and inexpensive cold fusion intentionally left blank.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
Most priests in the Catholic Church tend to lean toward socialist preachings

And of the half-million or so Catholic priests worldwide, just how many have you heard preach?
33 posted on 03/28/2006 3:22:20 PM PST by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Yes, it is the Bishops that need to follow the Church's teachings.


34 posted on 03/28/2006 3:23:07 PM PST by pissant
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To: razorbak
And just who is going to pick up the tab for Parochial School tuition for all those Catholic Illegal students?

It's not free, you know.

sw

35 posted on 03/28/2006 3:25:17 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"2241 ...Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants'duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens."

I LIKE it!! I am ashamed to admit that I did not know of this particular Church law. I should have a button made which simply says "2241" and wear it to Mass!! LOL!!
36 posted on 03/28/2006 3:27:55 PM PST by Zetman (This secret to simple and inexpensive cold fusion intentionally left blank.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
""2241 ...Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants'duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.""

Thank you.
Only some clergy aid and abet criminals.
37 posted on 03/28/2006 3:50:02 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Please see my reply #37
38 posted on 03/28/2006 3:51:45 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO")
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
Catholic Ping - Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


39 posted on 03/28/2006 4:03:11 PM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; sageb1
Thank you Mrs. Don-O!

I knew someone hear could express it more clearly (and accurately) that I could.

40 posted on 03/28/2006 4:06:33 PM PST by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
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