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Rockville, MD. - Racist, Sexist Police Union Web Site Postings Draw Ire
NBC 4 - Washington DC Metro ^ | UPDATED: 3:22 pm EST March 23, 2006 | NBC4

Posted on 03/23/2006 1:37:53 PM PST by Idisarthur

ROCKVILLE, Md. -- Racist, sexist and disparaging comments on a Montgomery County police union Web site have some police officers calling on union and department officials to take steps to curb the name-calling.

Some officers complain that the union has refused to require officers to identify themselves on the web site, a step they say would lead to more civil discussions. Commanders, meanwhile, could restrict access to the site from department computers.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbc4.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; leo; montgomerycounty; police; racist; sexist; union; website
What a disgrace.
1 posted on 03/23/2006 1:37:57 PM PST by Idisarthur
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To: All
I hate when links break. Here is more of an excerpt.

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One series of postings in January started with discussion about a sign at a district station, but quickly turned to the county's growing Hispanic population.

"Half of the district NO HABLA!!!! COMPRENDE??" an officer identified as "4D" wrote in one post.

"HALF, TRY 90 PERCENT . . . BEANERS GO HOME," another poster responded later, using the screen name "SE HABLA AWE SCREW IT, HANDS UP PACO."

The county, adjacent to the nation's capital, is one of the most affluent in the country with nearly 60 percent adults with a college education, half its workforce in white collar, managerial positions and a median income of more than $66,000 a year. At the same time, it has a fast-growing immigrant population.

A series of posts in February started by an officer looking for "a good painter that would be cheap" also disparaged Hispanics.

"In 20 years you'll have 150 channels of Telemundo, and you'll be paying for English-language channels -- and you'll be at the day laborer center, waiting for a pick-up," one post read.

Others involved a black officer involved in what the officer said was a misunderstanding of an episode in which she believed a fellow officer did not follow proper procedure. The officer's husband, the department's former diversity training teacher who was brought in following allegations of racial profiling, also was the subject of abuse on the site.

"If you treat your brothers and sisters like this," said Detective Terry Ridgley, president of the department's black officers association, "how can we expect you to treat members of the community with respect?"

Police Chief Thomas Manger said he was disappointed by the postings, which he attributed to a handful of employees.

"I know it does not reflect 99 percent of our employees," Manger said. "I will not tolerate any unlawful or improper conduct by any police department employee in the course of their duties."

Such message boards have become popular in recent years, said Chip DeBlock, a detective with the Tampa Police Department who started www.leoaffairs.com. The site hosts more than 150 message boards for law enforcement communities, getting more than 4 million hits per month, DeBlock said.

The discussions on the various boards are kept civil with the help of 150 volunteer moderators, DeBlock said.

Inflammatory postings have also led to suspensions or firings in Baltimore, New York, Detroit and Washington. In the District of Columbia, 24 officers were suspended after an investigation into the use of squad car computers to send offensive or threatening e-mail.

Walter Bader, president of Montgomery County's Fraternal Order of Police lodge, said some of the messages could have been posted by nonunion members who have hacked into the site.

"We don't censor it, we don't actively monitor it," Bader said. "It's free speech, it's 2006, it's technology. I don't agree with some of what I see on there. I don't think people should slander each other. But we're in a free country. We should embrace free speech."

2 posted on 03/23/2006 1:40:56 PM PST by Idisarthur
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To: Idisarthur

A disgrace? It looks no worse than FR or any political blog out there.

The problem is that the LEOs are posting on a public board inthe most liberal county around, and simply saying what they believe.

Gee, do you think there's no frustration among LEOs with the burgeoning population of illegal aliens in Montgomery County?

Takoma Park was only 20 years ago a working class neighborhood with retirees and houseowners from the WW II era. Now it is a third-world dunghole, and you'll be lucky to find a native English speaker (or any English speaker) there.


3 posted on 03/23/2006 1:46:45 PM PST by angkor
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To: Idisarthur

Rockville is a really crappy small city. I pity anyone who has to live there.


4 posted on 03/23/2006 1:48:19 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Idisarthur
If you look at what cops go through every day, putting their lives on the line only to have a police review board, the ACLU, the NAACP or some goofy left-wing group attack them over the smallest alleged miscue ....
5 posted on 03/23/2006 1:50:59 PM PST by BW2221
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To: Idisarthur
The officer's husband, the department's former diversity training teacher...

This tax thief reminds me of those "political officers" in the Soviet Army, who contributed nothing to command, control or logistics, but were there to impart the Party ideology and punish those who strayed from it.

6 posted on 03/23/2006 1:52:23 PM PST by dagnabbit (Vicente Fox's opening statement at the US-Mexico summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: Idisarthur

Sounds like the BATF.


7 posted on 03/23/2006 1:55:44 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: angkor
This is representative of the Police... hello. FR and political blogs don't have such a link.

So because they might have frustration you think it's wise to let this happen?

But, for the record - this is a third-world dunghole.

Africa

or Brazil


8 posted on 03/23/2006 1:56:15 PM PST by Idisarthur
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To: SmoothTalker

In what city do you live? I bet it's just great, probably flawless. : )


9 posted on 03/23/2006 1:59:25 PM PST by Idisarthur
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To: Idisarthur

There are too many illegal aliens in Montgomery County, and the police are not allowed to address them problem.

That's what they're saying.


10 posted on 03/23/2006 2:00:29 PM PST by angkor
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To: Idisarthur
"In 20 years you'll have 150 channels of Telemundo, and you'll be paying for English-language channels -- and you'll be at the day laborer center, waiting for a pick-up," one post read.

That's disparaging to Hispanics?

Montgomery County - at least they got rid of Chief Moose!

11 posted on 03/23/2006 2:04:31 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: SmoothTalker
No, this is the county police FOP site. Instead of suppressing the the bulletin board comments the Police Chief and Doug Duncan need to address why this attitude. There is obviously a level of frustration with the rank and file.

Could it be that those of Hispanic origin and who are also here illegally are posing the biggest problems for the LEOs?
12 posted on 03/23/2006 2:06:05 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Crush Code Pink, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of the womyn)
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To: angkor
I agree - that I see. But they still have to interact with the people that "they" disrespect by calling "Beaners".

The seeds would be planted (if you will) for some revolt or, worse, cop killing because of stuff like this...

The revolt is a historical issue as we see in LA, Calif. How many cop injuries and killings (even Fire Fighters shot by snipers during the riots) stemmed from animosity - from both sides.

I'm just saying that words are powerful - but use the right ones.

13 posted on 03/23/2006 2:07:50 PM PST by Idisarthur
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To: Rummyfan
"BEANERS GO HOME"

No, right here.... see that?

14 posted on 03/23/2006 2:09:17 PM PST by Idisarthur
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To: Idisarthur
A discussion board for officers of a given police department should either ruthlessly enforce standards of professionalism and civility, or be completely inaccessible to the public, and restricted from department computers.

It's fine to blow off steam. But to do so in public raises questions about the professionalism of the officer(s) blowing off steam.

15 posted on 03/23/2006 2:12:59 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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To: angkor

I thought Takoma Park was filled with hippies and granola types, with the illegals in another part of town.


16 posted on 03/23/2006 2:28:36 PM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
If these guys don't like it, they can always deal with "da bruthas" next door in Prince Georges County.

Montgomery County is a county full of rich people and those that serve them. If you don't like policing in such a place, you should either get a job in Fred-neck county where you likely live or just put up with it.

Illegal immigration is a problem, and the pols in Montgomery and every other country should deputize the police to make arrests for immigration violations. Nevertheless, the Police SERVE THE COUNTY that pays their salary. If the county wants them to make nice with "beaners", they better learn how to deal with it, instead of whining like a bunch of beer bellied yobs on a bulleting board.

17 posted on 03/23/2006 2:32:33 PM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
Hey JVB -

Did you know there were so many FReepers in liberal Montgomery County?

We sure could use them to help counter the antiwar/antitroop protesters at Walter Reed every Friday night between 6:30 - 9:30 PM

or

in Olney, every Saturday afternoon from 3 - 4:30 PM.

It could give the FReepers who come from Richmond,
N. Virginia and Philly a break.

[Mr] T
18 posted on 03/23/2006 2:45:22 PM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: Idisarthur

If they get themselves deputized by the Feds they can DO something about it instead of talking trash.


19 posted on 03/23/2006 2:50:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Clemenza
and those that serve them

Ayup. If I were king, I would arrest the richies who are pinching their pennies by hiring Pacos. They are creating the demand.

20 posted on 03/23/2006 2:52:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: trooprally
Did you know there were so many FReepers in liberal Montgomery County?

LOL!

It would be nice if they would come out and give you (and us) a hand.

On the issue of cops speaking their "inner feelings" on the FOP forum, it says alot about morale in MoCoPD. The politicians treat them like their personal waterboys, force them to deal with ridiculous PC crap, and won't back them up if they have a problem. No wonder they're blowing off steam online. Better online than on the street, I guess.

21 posted on 03/23/2006 3:00:48 PM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
Could it be that those of Hispanic origin and who are also here illegally are posing the biggest problems for the LEOs?

A little local history:

30+ years ago, tranquil and prosperous Montgomery County was a cush job for county police, certainly when compared to adjacent Prince George's County, which was awash in racial tensions and criminality pouring out of Northeast DC.

Even Takoma Park which is directly adjacent to NE DC and is also in Montgomery County remained quiet, pleasant and sedate. From top to bottom, Mongomery County was an easy job to police, and you could tell it when you were pulled-over for a broken taillamp and treated with respect (even to us teenagers back then)

Flip to now, and the county is awash (like everywhere else) in illegal aliens, who BTW have completely subsumed Takoma Park. "No hablo Ingles".

It's a completely different world for Montgomery County LEO's, even as the ultra-liberal denizens of the county are trying madly to keep their eyes wide shut to their exploding illegal alien problem.

22 posted on 03/23/2006 3:06:30 PM PST by angkor
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Ding Ding Ding! We have a WINNAH!


23 posted on 03/23/2006 3:06:31 PM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: Clemenza
If they want they can show up in support and protest on the Bill O Reilly Factor

when honorable cops like this become victims.

But if they are really tough then they can bad mouth their supervisors on Cable News -- all the way up the ladder to this guy.

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RIP Donald Young


24 posted on 03/23/2006 3:11:16 PM PST by Idisarthur
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I agree with you, the business owners should pay what is due -- so that the Legals can have a job.

But this all presumes that the Illegal business owners that do only CA$H jobs get deported.

25 posted on 03/23/2006 3:14:55 PM PST by Idisarthur
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To: tgslTakoma
It will carry over into the streets; if it hasn't already.

And sure, there are tons of Freepers in Montgomery County - all these volunteer requests... Get Organized!

: ) cheers

26 posted on 03/23/2006 3:18:57 PM PST by Idisarthur
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Yep. I was in Denver when Officer Young was murdered.


27 posted on 03/23/2006 3:26:22 PM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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NBC 4 POLL:

Should a Montgomery County police union Web site be censored or monitored to curb name-calling?

Choice Votes Percentage of 183 Votes

Yes 133 73%
No 50 27%

Thank you for taking our unscientific survey. Check back
later for updated results.

28 posted on 03/23/2006 3:26:25 PM PST by Idisarthur
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The site has been blocked from all county computers.

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"Montgomery County Blocks Access To Police Message Board"

"ROCKVILLE, Md. -- Montgomery County has blocked access from county computers to a police union message board where sexist, racist and anti-immigrant messages have been posted.

Police Chief Tom Manger said he made the move because of the destructive effects of the anonymous postings."

http://www.nbc4.com/news/8313557/detail.html

29 posted on 03/28/2006 9:23:12 AM PST by Idisarthur
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