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To: gunnyg

The hand salute is for uniformed military personnel, not civilians. Once you're a civilian, and no longer 'living the life', then putting your hand over your heart is entirely appropriate. That's in no way disrespectful, and I'm surprised that anyone thinks it is insufficient. The issue should be about showing respect to the flag, not showing off that you have some military service under your belt by whipping out a hand salute at a ball game.


6 posted on 03/23/2006 5:15:34 AM PST by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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To: Steel Wolf

Retired military are not civilians.

A lot of legalize in the details but "retirement" pay means they can call you back any time they want. More like a retainer.


10 posted on 03/23/2006 5:18:59 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Steel Wolf

Agreed. In fact, one of the principle honors of citizenship is that we draw our military from it and veterans return to their role as civilians thus reinforcing the concept of free citizens without class distinction. Ex-military civilians saluting the flag, IMO, creates subtle civil divisions that emphasize the class distinction, or separateness, of the veteran. Honoring veterans is well, good and needed, but not appropriate when the focus is on honoring the flag.


18 posted on 03/23/2006 5:27:30 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Di'ver'si'ty (adj.): A compound word derived from the root words: division; perversion; adversity.)
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To: Steel Wolf

SteelOne is right. I'm not qualified to salute anymore. I lost that honor when I was discharged from the military.


44 posted on 03/23/2006 5:54:29 AM PST by okiejack (Thank GOD for Grunts!)
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To: Steel Wolf

My dear friend died recently and he was in the Military
When ever I visit his grave I always salute and I'm a civilian.


47 posted on 03/23/2006 5:57:47 AM PST by LittleMoe
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To: Steel Wolf

Here here. I agree 100%!


64 posted on 03/23/2006 6:27:57 AM PST by Mathews (Shot... Splash... Out!)
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To: Steel Wolf

A veteran has earned the privilidge of saluting. I'm not going to take it from them by citing some rule.

To all my fellow vets: Salute when you feel like it. You've earned the right; if somebody or something has earned your respect to a point where they deserve a salute, do your best!


70 posted on 03/23/2006 6:40:22 AM PST by Loud Mime ("Countdown" - A documentary about Keith Olbermann's dwindling IQ)
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To: Steel Wolf; gunnyg
The hand salute is for uniformed military personnel, not civilians.

Bingo. Even active duty OUT OF UNIFORM do not salute.

Nothing wrong with hand over heart, it's every bit as respectful and completely appropriate.

88 posted on 03/23/2006 10:50:44 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: Steel Wolf

Is there a protocol for uniformed civilians to salute? I often see Boy Scouts, uniformed cops, and even fire chiefs in dress uniform saluting at various events.


94 posted on 03/23/2006 1:18:24 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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