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Watch out, this 'lame duck' president has nothing to lose [Iranians: Please note]
The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | March 12, 2006 | Niall Ferguson

Posted on 03/14/2006 12:04:04 PM PST by aculeus

[snip] Congressmen should beware of underestimating this president as others have done in the past. They should remember that a second-term president is not necessarily a lame duck. He is also a man with nothing to lose.

So my guess is that Bush is going to bite back. And the obvious way for him to do this is over Iran. Last Tuesday Vice-President Dick Cheney gave a speech in which he bluntly declared: "We will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon." Remind you of anything? It was Cheney who set the pace four years ago, as the administration prepared to confront Iraq, insisting that Saddam already possessed weapons of mass destruction. And the same sequence of events now looks set to replay itself.

The United States is going to ask the UN Security Council to impose sanctions if Iran does not halt its programme of uranium enrichment. The other permanent members won't agree. And then… Well, when those missiles slam into the Iranian nuclear facilities, don't say I didn't warn you.

Harvard's revolution was a reminder that in academic politics the stakes are relatively low. Larry Summers may even find he is happier back in the classroom, teaching the subject he loves. But where the stakes are high - and they don't get any higher than American national security - the presidents are harder to roll over. The next time you hear the word "duck" in Washington, my advice would be to do just that.

• Niall Ferguson is Laurence A Tisch Professor of History at Harvard University www.niallferguson.org

© Niall Ferguson, 2006

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1 posted on 03/14/2006 12:04:07 PM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Actually, this is an easy one for GW Bush. Give the Iranians plenty of warning, but no specifics. Give them every opportunity to conform. If not not then destroy all of their oil producing capacity right down to the last drop, destroy all their known, unknown and suspected nuclear sites, destroy all of the Syrian military from the air, and this fiasco will be over. The Iranian economy will collapse overnight, the Iranian people will overthrow thes fanatics. The Syrian Goivernment will fall and Hamas and the boys will begin to tow the line. Some pain, yes, but I'll bet you Chavez does not hold back one drop of oil to the USA. Let the backboneless Europeans take the pain of no Iranian oil!!! They deserve it.


2 posted on 03/14/2006 12:17:19 PM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Iran is an importer of refined petroleum products. Taking out their one refinery would inflict great pain.


3 posted on 03/14/2006 12:21:14 PM PST by aculeus
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

The oil card, seems to be the only obsitacle the third world has to toss on the table.

I say we cast our gage, and follow through, all the way.

We will then take the oil we need, and leave payment for those left to collect.

Ops4 God Bless America!


4 posted on 03/14/2006 12:23:42 PM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

What a great plan that is. I agree with all of it.


5 posted on 03/14/2006 12:27:05 PM PST by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Whole heartedly agree with all the points. Now a few questions:

1. What do you expect the proposed action will do to the the oil prices here domestically? I would expect them to shoot up, not sure how much. You know how these over emotional traders are.

2. Do you seriously expect Bush to order destruction of the Iranian oil refineries?

3. Do you seriously expect Bush to order the destruction of the Syrian military even by air?

6 posted on 03/14/2006 12:36:29 PM PST by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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To: aculeus

11 “And the merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise anymore: 12 merchandise of gold and silver, precious stones and pearls, fine linen and purple, silk and scarlet, every kind of citron wood, every kind of object of ivory, every kind of object of most precious wood, bronze, iron, and marble; 13 and cinnamon and incense, fragrant oil and frankincense, wine and oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and bodies and souls of men. 14 The fruit that your soul longed for has gone from you, and all the things which are rich and splendid have gone from you,[e] and you shall find them no more at all. 15 The merchants of these things, who became rich by her, will stand at a distance for fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, 16 and saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great city that was clothed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls! 17 For in one hour such great riches came to nothing.’ Every shipmaster, all who travel by ship, sailors, and as many as trade on the sea, stood at a distance 18 and cried out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What is like this great city?’
19 “They threw dust on their heads and cried out, weeping and wailing, and saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great city, in which all who had ships on the sea became rich by her wealth! For in one hour she is made desolate.’
20 “Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you holy apostles[f] and prophets, for God has avenged you on her!”


7 posted on 03/14/2006 12:45:26 PM PST by MadeInAmerica ( - Tested in the Middle East)
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To: aculeus
The next time you hear the word "duck" in Washington, my advice would be to do just that.

Excellent line

8 posted on 03/14/2006 1:09:52 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (War today is always cheaper than war tomorrow.)
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To: el_texicano

Look, at the end of the day GW Bush has all the cards in his hands. Yes, oil prices will go up, the fact is we get very little oil from Iran. And...screw the rest of the world. We should protect India, the United Kingdom, Australia, Poland, Costa Rica and the rest of the coalition states. If Chavez burps, we should put him to rest quickly. Remember, the USA is still the most powerful nation in the world. We need to get a little more like the Roman Empire when it was at its peak, talk, try sincerely to make peace when possible, when not possible, destroy!!! I actually believe if GW told the Iranian leadership what was coming, the solution would be immediate without any military action. They know who holds the real cards.


9 posted on 03/14/2006 2:59:50 PM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: aculeus

After the election in November, he'll have nothing left to lose. Right now, he's got the House and the Senate and probably one or two Supreme Court seats.


10 posted on 03/14/2006 3:02:42 PM PST by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: aculeus
FWIW, I thought Iran imported 70% of its refined petro products? I know it's a pretty high percentage. If the Weasels would get serious about supporting and upholding a boycott of refined petro products, I doubt we'd have to do a thing militarily. But that's big if.
11 posted on 03/14/2006 3:04:07 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Yes, oil prices will go up, the fact is we get very little oil from Iran. And...screw the rest of the world.

Alas the rest of the world's consumers will bid for whatever oil is on the market. Make no mistake: removal of Iran's production would cause the world price to skyrocket.

12 posted on 03/14/2006 3:26:42 PM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus
Alas the rest of the world's consumers will bid for whatever oil is on the market. Make no mistake: removal of Iran's production would cause the world price to skyrocket.

You are exactly correct. Some people simply don't understand how markets work, or the concept of fungibility.

13 posted on 03/14/2006 6:28:04 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: hocndoc
After the election in November, he'll have nothing left to lose.

With his current approval ratings in the low 30's, Bush wont be helping too many Republicans during these mid-term elections. The Dubai Port deal was very illustrative.

As history as shown us however, Presidential approval ratings rise quite dramatically when a new war breaks out. Taking on the Mullahs may be the only way Bush can elevate his approval ratings. Especially right after the port deal where the Rino's and Dino's foolishly tried to make Bush look soft on the war on terror.

14 posted on 03/14/2006 6:37:28 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: aculeus

Wow, it's Cheney's fault we're in Iraq? And all this time the left-leaning media has been blaming it on Bush's lying. Go figure.


15 posted on 03/14/2006 6:45:08 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: aculeus

Me, I"ll take the pain to get rid of Iran. Plus all you doom and gloomers have never been right with your predictions. You should go on the Chris Matthews show. He lives in a dreamland with Howard "I have never been right about one thing" Fineman. You want to cure the "Middle East" problem? The solution is right in front of your nose. Iran has no economy other then its oil!!!


16 posted on 03/15/2006 10:31:16 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: justa-hairyape
Taking on the Mullahs may be the only way Bush can elevate his approval ratings.

Nonsense. The President would never put our military in harms way for such reasons. Bush, thank goodness, doesn't lead based on polls.

17 posted on 03/15/2006 11:27:39 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Dear Congressmoron.....)
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To: prairiebreeze
True. But we are talking about certain members of his political party and how they view his ability to help the party. My comment was directed to a posting that stated GWB would hold off doing anything about 'mullahs with nukes' until after the elections.

Theoretically, if GWB was concerned about the election, he would look for a way to raise his approval ratings. GWB puts country before party. His low approval ratings however should not be seen by the mullahs as a green light to nuke Israel and a few European capitals. It seems ridiculous to me to base ones opinions of GWB on how 'well behaved' the desert trash in Iraq is. That desert trash is driving the polls down through the treasonous terrorist apologizing dinosaur media.

18 posted on 03/15/2006 12:54:49 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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