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Incendiary Words (Detectives Suspect Woman's Words Enraged Bouncer, Leading to Rape and Murder)
Newsday ^ | 03/09/2006 | Rocco Parascandola

Posted on 03/09/2006 2:00:47 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

A racially tinged comment, uttered by an apparently inebriated Imette St. Guillen, may have sent bouncer Darryl Littlejohn into a murderous rage, detectives now believe, according to police sources.

Just before Littlejohn was ordered to escort St. Guillen out of The Falls, a SoHo bar, on the night she was raped and killed, she told him: "That's why all you black people are in jail," witnesses told police. The remark came after a brief, contentious discussion with Littlejohn, police sources said..

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bouncer; darryllittlejohn; guillen; imettestguillen; murder; newyork; rape; soho; thefalls
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1 posted on 03/09/2006 2:00:52 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Every once in awhile two people who should not be within two miles of each other somehow come face to face in NYC under the worse possible circumstances.


2 posted on 03/09/2006 2:03:09 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

If the guy's skin was that thin, then he had no business being a bouncer. When I worked as a bouncer people would call me things that would shock a Marine D.I.


3 posted on 03/09/2006 2:05:17 AM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Zeroisanumber

Really? You listened to what they said? When I worked security they all sounded like the teacher in the Charlie Brown cartoons...


4 posted on 03/09/2006 2:07:08 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
And if a black women called a white bouncer a honky....?

I bam disgusted by the attempt to excuse the rapist.murderer's crime.

5 posted on 03/09/2006 2:10:39 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: hoosierham

There is the "crime" and then there is the "event."

In regards to the crime: nothing excuses it, and the guy gets to be a guest of the NYS Dept. of Corrections for many years, if he did it. End of story. Nothing excuses it.

In regards to the event: The victim piled one stupid action (wandering around alone late at night drunk) on top of another stupid action (abusing some guy she didn't know). Stupidity isn't against the law, but it can get you killed very quickly.


6 posted on 03/09/2006 2:16:49 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: hoosierham
I dunno, but I got the impression that the victim was of mixed racial heritage, at the least. I thought she was at least half Haitian, but I'm not sure and it means absolutely nothing to me anyway. If true, this incident reminds me of the old fashioned status seeking in the minority community based of relative darkness of one's skin, strangely enough.
7 posted on 03/09/2006 2:17:16 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Be careful with that "n" word. You may be niggardly but woe befall you if someone in earshot thinks you uttered a racially incedeniary phrase. Be wery caweful.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

8 posted on 03/09/2006 2:28:45 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Not certain if this will help any... but here's the victim, Imette St. Guillen:

She went to Boston Latin High School, and her sister's name is Alejandra. I think "Latina" might be a reasonably safe bet. :)

9 posted on 03/09/2006 2:43:29 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I see they are holding him on parole violations.


10 posted on 03/09/2006 2:59:17 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
A racially tinged comment, uttered by an apparently inebriated Imette St. Guillen, may have sent bouncer Darryl Littlejohn into a murderous rage

Oh. Well, I guess that makes it ok, then.

11 posted on 03/09/2006 3:01:48 AM PST by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Nothing makes murder OK in my book. Its the ultimate evil.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

12 posted on 03/09/2006 3:07:01 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Blacks constantly call each other nigger. I can't remember ever calling anyone that. If I did I deserve to be killed?
People sure can be stupid.
The old sticks and stones thing.
If he did it he'll get his in the big house.


13 posted on 03/09/2006 3:11:49 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Gee, well I'm glad we cleared that up.
The murder suspect is being investigated for a number of rapes in NYC. Obviously all those racist women never should have insulted this man.

Hopefully all the women will be brought up on charges, all except the dead one. Maybe the rapist/murderer can sue the family of the dead woman.


14 posted on 03/09/2006 3:13:30 AM PST by putupjob
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To: durasell
"There is the 'crime' and then there is the 'event.'"

Exactly. I keep hoping to hear someone, Regreta, Gerald, Sean, anyone ask Natalie Holloway's mother on national TV, "Why in the world did you let your child go by herself to a place like that? Do you feel any responsibility for the death of your daughter.?" I know the kid was legally an adult (18), but....sometimes other adults have to be the adults.

15 posted on 03/09/2006 3:16:16 AM PST by RushLake (The Democratic party--Mary Jo Kopechne is unavailable for comment.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

So the guy has a hair trigger brain. Who gives a crap?

If the DA is searching for the correct charge needed to remove this creep from the civilized world, okay, hurry up. We're waiting.


16 posted on 03/09/2006 3:21:47 AM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

An obvious case of self-defense.


17 posted on 03/09/2006 3:23:12 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"A racially tinged comment, uttered by an apparently inebriated Imette St. Guillen, may have sent bouncer Darryl Littlejohn into a murderous rage..."

I wonder how this will play to a jury. I can hear the defense Shyster Attorney spewing a black rage theme.

18 posted on 03/09/2006 3:23:20 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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A racially tinged comment, uttered by an apparently inebriated Imette St. Guillen, may have sent bouncer Darryl Littlejohn into a murderous rage

Actually "murderous rage" doesn't seem to fit what happened. A murderous rage would be an immediate attack killing this girl. This was a cold premeditated murder with the rape thrown in for a power trip.

This said society somehow has given women the idea they can mouth off to anyone they choose and because they are a woman and only because they are a woman they will be free from defending themselves. Men do not generally make comments to another man they think can kick there ass because they just might get it kicked.

Remember the couple that was getting mugged by some punk, the woman was a model, I guess somewhat famous, said "whats he gonna do shoot us?" and brushed the mugger aside. He shot and killed her on the spot.

When I was at prom a couple of black guys crashed the scene who weren't from my school (I assume someone knew them). They for some reason gave me crap right as we walked in. They came back to the hotel where many of the kids were staying and started partying. Late that night they came knocking on my hotel room door where four of us were staying. I answered the door and told them the party was over and we were going to sleep. One of them started giving me crap and since we had been drinking and didn't want to get thrown out of the hotel I just started to close the door. He and his friend pushed their way partially in and I pushed them back and tried to close the door when my friends date said "God! Leave us alone you f-ing n*****s". I turned to look at her and they busted in the door. One grabbed the girl by the neck and shoved her toward the bathroom. I followed and pulled him by the neck off her. When I turned around the other guy had my date by the hair and threw her to the ground. I punched him in the face and we grappled tearing my shirt off. Finally we got them out of the room and security showed up but they were gone.

My point of this story is to say I knew there was serious trouble with these guys and I was going to do what I could to keep our dates out this and suck up my pride and try to just get these guys gone. If I was just out with the boys it would have been on. My buddies date for some reason thought it her place to mouth off and it cause the situation to go from bad to worse. Once these guys broke in they attacked our dates, not us. We had to defend our dates because she couldn't keep her mouth shut.

19 posted on 03/09/2006 3:28:52 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I would not be surprised if the attorney tries the race card, because it looks like he's going to have little else. We can only pray it's not successful.

I think most of us have encountered a woman, probably with a drinking problem, who becomes drunk and abusive and refuses to leave the bar. The friend obviously becomes fed up and leaves her BLEEP there at 3:30. She goes on to flirt with/verbally abuse this bouncer, all the while he's thinking "she don't know who she dealing with."

It's sad, but I can see the scenario. A woman can usually intimidate a civilized man, and we all know alcohol makes one bulletproof. When a man decides not to play civilized though, the Law of the Jungle dictates who's going to come out on top.

I hope they fry the creep, but they don't do that in NY, do they?


20 posted on 03/09/2006 3:36:22 AM PST by Flavius Josephus (The only good muslim is a bad muslim)
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