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City shopkeeper guns down armed robber, police say
Reading Eagle ^ | 03/04/2006 | Keith Mayer

Posted on 03/04/2006 9:38:58 PM PST by Big E

Authorities to consider charges against man

By Keith Mayer Reading Eagle

A Reading shopkeeper on Friday fatally shot a knife-wielding man who had robbed him of an undetermined amount of money, city police said. Gregorio Zarzuela, 58, the owner of Gregory's Market, 12th and Green streets, ran out the front door, turned and fired once at the fleeing robber about 12:30 p.m., investigators said.

Zarzuela killed the man, who fell face up onto the sidewalk on the west side of the street, authorities said.

Officials had not determined the identity of the dead man; he was checked for identification, but had none.

An autopsy is scheduled for today in Lehigh Valley Hospital near Allentown.

Police took Zarzuela; his son, Hector, 34; and a store patron to City Hall for questioning. They seized Gregorio Zarzuela's weapon, which he was licensed to carry, police said.

“The suspect was not known to the owner,” said Sgt. Guy Lehman of the criminal investigations division.

Lehman said investigators would gather information and present it to the district attorney's office next week to determine if charges would be filed.

Lehman advised shop owners not be as aggressive during robberies as Gregorio Zarzuela had been.

“Comply with the robber's demands and call police,” he said. “I wouldn't suggest confronting these people (robbers).”

Friday's incident was the second time this year that a city shop owner took action against a robber.

On Jan. 20, Carlos Carrion used a baseball bat to attack a robber inside Denisse Grocery Store, 226 W. Douglass St. The robber, who had a shotgun, was injured but escaped, police said.

No charges have been filed.

Police gave this account of Friday's holdup at Gregory's Market:

The man went to the counter, pulled out a knife and demanded money.

Gregorio Zarzuela opened the cash drawer and gave money to the robber. The robber ran out and south on 12th Street.

Zarzuela got a gun, but police did not say from where, and ran outside.

Patrol division Sgt. Joseph M. Cafoncelli said he was driving east on Green Street and turned onto 12th when Hector Zarzuela ran toward him and said the store had just been robbed.

Cafoncelli saw the robber lying on the sidewalk and radioed for an ambulance.

Cafoncelli walked to the gunshot victim.

“He didn't say anything to me,” Cafoncelli said.

Gregorio Zarzuela did not return to the store after questioning.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
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It will be interesting to see if they press charges against the shopkeeper.
1 posted on 03/04/2006 9:39:02 PM PST by Big E
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To: Big E

Even if he lived, the perp should have been charged with bringing a knife to a gun fight.


2 posted on 03/04/2006 9:41:07 PM PST by SquirrelKing (Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.)
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To: Big E; DaveLoneRanger

Shop keeper deserves an award.


3 posted on 03/04/2006 9:43:35 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Big E
ran out the front door, turned and fired once at the fleeing robber about 12:30 p.m.,

I agree that the perp was wrong, but this is going to be a sticky situation IMO considering what (little) I know about most laws pertaining to self-defense.

I'm thinking it might have been better to shoot the POS in the store but I wasn't there so I'll leave it at that.

4 posted on 03/04/2006 9:46:25 PM PST by Looking4Truth (The U.S. knows that the rest of the world is damn near useless, we're tired of carrying your asses!)
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To: Big E

Did the shopkeeper get his money back?


5 posted on 03/04/2006 9:46:38 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Self defense? ping


6 posted on 03/04/2006 9:49:23 PM PST by tubebender (Everything I know about computers I learned on Free Republic...)
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To: Big E

PA's laws on defense suck. My state. Makes me ashamed.


8 posted on 03/04/2006 9:51:14 PM PST by Supernatural (Lay me doon in the caul caul groon, whaur afore monie mair huv gaun)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Another bedtime story with a happy ending ping


9 posted on 03/04/2006 9:53:16 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Big E
...the owner of Gregory's Market, 12th and Green streets, ran out the front door, turned and fired once at the fleeing robber about 12:30 p.m., investigators said. Zarzuela killed the man...

Good shoot'n Tex! The dude was running and everything. That's a pretty good shot for a shop keeper.

10 posted on 03/04/2006 9:53:57 PM PST by txroadkill
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To: Big E
“Comply with the robber's demands and call police,” he said. “I wouldn't suggest confronting these people (robbers).”

When is this stupid mentality going to die?

Every time a citizen, shopkeeper, homeowner "complies" with the robbers, not only that robber but all of his lowlife pals are further emboldened to commit the same kind of crimes.

Yet every time the same kind of citizen, shopkeeper, homeowner take immediate action to defend his property or life, or the lives of his family, the Dudly-Dooright Dingalings calling themselves police, haul out the same tired mantra...

The ONLY thing this guy did wrong, IMHO, is let the POS out of the store and shoot him as he ran away. It would have been better for all concerned if the immediate response to his demand for money had been an immediate lead injection -- but I wasn't there, like the poster above said -- so I can't really call that a legitimate beef.

If he isn't charged (which would be justice) one thing is for sure. Robbers are not going to mess around with his store in the future.

11 posted on 03/04/2006 9:57:38 PM PST by Ronin
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To: Ronin

Well said.


12 posted on 03/04/2006 9:59:46 PM PST by B4Ranch (Non illigitamus carborundum)
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To: Big E

13 posted on 03/04/2006 10:03:36 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're Americans, we can do anything)
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To: Looking4Truth
I'm thinking it might have been better to shoot the POS in the store

Exactly, the robber was no longer a threat, the shop owner could be charged with manslaughter. Tough call, but the shop owner also endangered the public.

If the shop owner does not plead out, a trial will probably result in guilty verdict, with probation. Don't know the mandatories in that state, if the shop owner has a record he could get a few years.

Robbers in that town better pay attention, the risk factor has certainly gone up.

14 posted on 03/04/2006 10:03:50 PM PST by im4eagles (and the eagles shall soar above)
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To: txroadkill
Good shoot'n Tex! The dude was running and everything.

As serious as this sh*t is, you made me laugh out loud. F'n 'ay. Thanks.

15 posted on 03/04/2006 10:06:04 PM PST by Looking4Truth (The U.S. knows the rest of the world is damn near useless and we're sick of carrying their asses!)
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To: Big E
Officials had not determined the identity of the dead man; he was checked for identification, but had none.

My guess is that it's Jesus. A former co-worker tells me that it seems like Jesus is killed in Reading every month.

16 posted on 03/04/2006 10:09:45 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Big E
Lehman advised shop owners not be as aggressive during robberies as Gregorio Zarzuela had been

Just bend over and hope they don't kill you for kicks on the way out. I'd like to see one friggin cop take their own stupid advice.

17 posted on 03/04/2006 10:09:57 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
I don't find justification (as far as the legal grounds of self-defense) for shooting a fleeing robber, presumably in the back, because you cannot prove your life was in danger when you fired.

The notion that someone should let a violent felon go because he is no longer a threat to his current victim is pathetic. I say get them whenever and however you can and save their future victims and their families grief. The law has got to change on this one.

18 posted on 03/04/2006 10:15:52 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Supernatural
PA's laws on defense suck. My state. Makes me ashamed.

Pennsylvania Constitution, Article I, Section 21:
The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.

However, that does not grant the right to chase down someone and shoot him.

19 posted on 03/04/2006 10:18:03 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Yes, I know. PA ain't Texas.


20 posted on 03/04/2006 10:18:58 PM PST by Supernatural (Lay me doon in the caul caul groon, whaur afore monie mair huv gaun)
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