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Villagers Claim Church Fresco Is Lost Michaelangelo
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 2-23-2006 | John Hooper

Posted on 02/23/2006 10:46:13 AM PST by blam

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21 posted on 02/23/2006 12:23:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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Art ping!

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I vote no on this one based on the drawing, but confess to not knowing too much about frescoes. The colors look like Michaelangelo, though perhaps they are typical of frescoe coloring of that era?

I wish we had a closeup of the signature to compare with recognized samples.

Thanks, ELS.


22 posted on 02/23/2006 12:45:12 PM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality) - ("Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein)
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To: Andyman

Mike would never make Christ look like he had a beer belly in the making, and that's what this looks like.


23 posted on 02/23/2006 12:53:05 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (No respect for conservatives? That's free speech. No respect for liberals? That's hate speech.)
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To: Andyman

I'm no expert, but the poses and arrangement of the figures just does not look like Michelangelo.

Good point! The frescoe on the right is an authentic Michelangelo.

24 posted on 02/23/2006 1:15:23 PM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: Liz

Ping!


25 posted on 02/23/2006 1:16:46 PM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: blam
So Michaelangelo like to paint "al fresco".

I do my best work when I'm nekkid!

26 posted on 02/23/2006 1:20:18 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: Darkwolf377

If it's Michaelangelo, he hadn't learned how to draw yet, but the article makes it sound like he was already well known, which would preclude his not having skills yet.


27 posted on 02/23/2006 6:30:01 PM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality) - ("Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein)
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To: blam
on a lighter note - I saw the previews tonight for "The daVinci Code" with Tom Hanks. (Well, I didn't see the previews with Tom, but :) )

Looks to be pretty good - Ron Howard directs - he's great.

28 posted on 02/23/2006 10:48:16 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: blam

oh , BYW, da Vinci did not paint or otherwise make the Shroud of Turin - the existance of which has been documented to for hundreds of years before da Vinci.
So sorry to all the non-beleivers and others who would have their applecarts upset...get used to eating applesauce. :)


29 posted on 02/23/2006 10:52:32 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: NYer

Wow!

The differences are so stark even to me who am not a painter.


30 posted on 02/23/2006 10:55:17 PM PST by TheBrotherhood (Tancredo for President.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Could bring in big money for this town if it was real..Maybe that's the reason they all believe in it..Looks like amature work to me..I say not his..


31 posted on 02/23/2006 10:55:41 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: TheBrotherhood

Compare to this one. Not saying it's his though:

http://www.artinvest2000.com/michelangelo_martirio_san_pietro.htm


32 posted on 02/23/2006 11:07:59 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Andyman

You may be comparing an early Michelangelo to a later Michelangelo.


33 posted on 02/24/2006 9:51:05 AM PST by TradicalRC (No longer to the right of the Pope...)
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To: GSlob
Fresco is a tough ground for detail or nuance of line or color. Even a draughtsman as great as Michaelangelo--and he is one of the best--would have a tough time rendering the beautiful detail and certainty of line he is known for, at least in that medium.
34 posted on 02/24/2006 9:53:33 AM PST by Rembrandt_fan
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Christ's limbs in this fresco are such that Michelangelo drew better than that at age 3. And as for detailing in fresco - why, either Adam or Haman on Sistine ceiling are done perfectly, with all the detail one could wish for, and ditto for the ignudi. The only piece on this fresco which could remotely be connected [judging from the thumbnail photo] is a small piece of the back in the figure on the right. But why would Michelangelo do a piece of one figure's back and nothing else? Even in collaborative effort an apprentice would normally be doing the whole figure, maybe a figure sans face, or the whole of the background.
35 posted on 02/24/2006 10:51:18 AM PST by GSlob
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