It's not spurius argument. I'm really starting to get sick of the blindness of Freepers on this issue. We accuse the RATS of saying the "support our troops" and then do everything to undermine them.
Supporting the Danes in their quest for freespeech purity will UNDERMINE OUR TROOPS IN THE FIELD.
That is not a spurious argument and it has nothing to do with 1991 (speaking of stupid spurious arguments). We're talking about a VERY fragile situation in Iraq RIGHT NOW. With our troops on the line, EVERY DAY.
These cartoons not only are not CRUCIAL they are NOTHING compared to our troops in Iraq.
Iraq is where the real battle lines are being drawn.
How fickle of so many Freepers. I want Jim R's opinion on this issue. How sickeningly fickle. I'm tempted to leave this site over this issue, but there are enough other people around here who "get it" to keep me here.
A lot of you are turning into a bunch o' DU'ers, abandoning our troops in the field to rush to the aid of EUROWEENIES who will SPIT IN YOUR FACE for all the help you offer them once this is over.
And you damn well know it.
Denmark has boots on the ground in Iraq. How dare you call them Euroweeinies and insult them by defending the embassy burning Muslim animals. It is YOU who are doing the spitting here.
Part of winning our wars in the past has been nation rebuilding and reeducating, leaving behind a peaceful democracy.
You can not have a free society without free speech, you will never change the course of the middle east without standing up and forcing freedoms on Iraq which islam does not allow, which is why leaving Iraq can not happen for decades(just as in Japan and Germany).
That is not a spurious argument and it has nothing to do with 1991 (speaking of stupid spurious arguments). We're talking about a VERY fragile situation in Iraq RIGHT NOW. With our troops on the line, EVERY DAY.
We were in the same position in Japan after WWII when we shoved changes in their society down their throats(don't think they wanted to change, changes that were against their religion).
These cartoons not only are not CRUCIAL they are NOTHING compared to our troops in Iraq.
They are crucial and everything we are fighting for.....bringing the islamic world a new direction from where islam wants them to go, because that will just continue the terrorism with bigger and better weapons in the islamic terrorist hands until eventually the west will be forced into a war to wipe out islam. This is our one chance to change islams direction(not that I think it will actually work, but it must be tried).
Iraq is where the real battle lines are being drawn.
We have won the war there, but we are doing battle for ideals now. If we back down then there was no point in winning the war in the first place because you have changed nothing....the thought process that got Iraq and Afghanistan where they are today is what needs changing or we do war again in 20 years. Really what is the point of going after Iran and taking their nuke capabilities away if we do not change their society, if we do not they will just do it again.
How fickle of so many Freepers. I want Jim R's opinion on this issue. How sickeningly fickle. I'm tempted to leave this site over this issue, but there are enough other people around here who "get it" to keep me here.
Because we see islam as the core to the problem that needs to be dealt with, because when we leave the middle east islam will still demand death to all non-muslims and if we do not change the thinking of these islamic countries they will continue trying for weapons to destroy non-islamic countries and continue the support of terrorism because of the korans demands. If we do not change the thinking patterns of what is right and wrong there we have accomplished nothing.
A lot of you are turning into a bunch o' DU'ers, abandoning our troops in the field to rush to the aid of EUROWEENIES who will SPIT IN YOUR FACE for all the help you offer them once this is over.
...nobody here is abandoning our troops and it is the DU'ers that are always on the enemies side which we are not, but this is now about ideas which free speech is one that the islamic world needs desperately without the threat of the one doing the speaking getting his throat slit and that is worth fighting for and demanding, and never worth bowing down to islam and losing ours.
I think I know where you are coming from, samtheman. Our military men and women sure don't need a cartoonist riling up our enemies. Not a cartoonist from the U.S. or Denmark, or anywhere else for that matter. Lord knows the world has enough trouble right now without some cartoonist deciding to stir the pot a bit. Oh yes, I am a firm believer in free speech, but I was also taught that free speech was not a free pass to go about willy-nilly insulting other people(s)just because I'm free to do so.
The person who created the "Islamic cartoons" has the freedom to do so. I will defend that person's freedom. However, that doesn't mean I think that person was acting in a way that was right, helpful, nor responsible.
Liberals and Dems have the right to free speech and oh boy, they sure use it. They make statements that we all know have and will continue to hurt our military men and women, if not get them killed! I do find it ironic that when a Dem/Lib abuses their right to free speech, we become furious because they are putting us all, especially our troops, in danger. But now when someone in Denmark enflames our enemies, it's all about "free speech" and we should applaud them?
Go figure....
It's a stupid cartoon! Muslims are just looking for anything to get upset about, if not cartoons, it will be something else. They will manufacture an excuse, like the Koran flushing. Better the world know about the true nature of our enemies.
Maybe, maybe not. if so, then we better watch our back there every day already because what you are saying is, we have no allies there. In any case, if somehow there is a chance you might be right, then State should have kept their yaps shut on the issue altogether.