Posted on 01/25/2006 5:45:47 PM PST by wagglebee
RUSH: Bob in Corpus Christi, Texas, welcome to the program, sir. Nice to have you with us.
CALLER: Yes. Hi, Rush. About Hillary.
RUSH: Yeah.
CALLER: You're wrong if you don't think she can win. Be afraid, be very afraid.
RUSH: (sighing)
CALLER: It's very simple. John Kerry almost won. He lost by three points, and he based his whole campaign on three and a half months in a swift boat. And his background, his voting record was buried. He made his name in VVAW, a bunch of bogus psychopathic radicals. He told a bunch of twisted lies about being in Cambodia. He goes to Paris and meets with the enemy during Vietnam and works on their behalf. All that was buried and he almost won. If it hadn't been for the alternative press, he would have won. (eStack: John F. Kerry Stack Catalogs the Near-Disaster)
RUSH: Yeah, the alternative --
CALLER: The same thing could happen with Hillary. They're going to bury all her past; they're going to portray her as a moderate like they did Kerry.
RUSH: One of the things you have to understand, though, about Kerry. I think it's a little bit mistaken to compare Kerry to Clinton because in truth, Kerry was an unknown to most of the people in the country. He was this dog-faced senator who didn't do much throughout his career, then when he runs for president he had a little bit of --
CALLER: Rush, consider this.
RUSH: Well, wait a minute.
CALLER: Think about -- think about -- he sounded like --
RUSH: No, the point is everyone knows who Mrs. Clinton is. That's my point. John Kerry would love the kind of fawning press that Mrs. Clinton has received for 13 years, and it's resulted in 51% of the people saying they definitely don't want to vote for her. Now, look it, you can sit there -- and I'm not going to disagree with you. She could win. I mean, anything can happen. Who knows the future? I'm just saying telling you there's no reason to be afraid of it.
CALLER: Rush. Rush, hold on. Consider Kerry's appearance. He looks like Frankenstein, he's got a boring, patrician voice that puts everybody to sleep. They can't stand it.
RUSH: Bob, hang on. Grab cut 13, Mike. You want to start comparing voices? Here's John Kerry, puts himself to sleep, puts everybody to sleep, contrasted with this.
HILLARY: I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic, and we should stand up and say, "We are Americans, and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!"
RUSH: Now, really? I mean, that's my point, you're going from one extreme to the other. Why do you want to be afraid? Seriously, Bob, why do you want to be afraid of her?
CALLER: Because she is something to be afraid of, and fear helps to motivate people. If it wasn't for people like you and me, we gotta get out there and stop people like Hillary.
RUSH: Well, I understand --
CALLER: We were able to stop Kerry and we've got to keep going because they're going to keep putting up people like Hillary and Kerry.
RUSH: Yeah, and where's it gotten them? The point is, look it. If you want to talk about fear, I'll allow it in this context. I would be afraid of a Hillary presidency. I mean, who wants that? But in terms of running a campaign and dealing with the potential candidacy that she might get nominated, the attitude to have is oppose her. Now, if part of the campaign is to warn people what will happen, issue by issue by issue, if she is elected, yeah, if you want to call that fear, I think that's just informing people. There's a big difference between trying to gin up a bunch of fear and paranoia than informing people on the truth and giving them facts and so forth. I guess when I say that I don't have any fear, I'm really speaking about her inevitability. I am not one of these people who think, and I haven't ever been, that she has an inevitability to be elected president or that she has an entitlement to it.
I don't think it's written in clouds, etched in stone, etched in the beach, wherever it gets written that that's something this country must have and that she must achieve, and a lot of people do, and I think when you end up being motivated by fear, sometimes it could be a good motivator. But a lot of times it makes you behave irrationally and assume things that aren't, and one of the bad things about fear is it goes hand in hand with assumption, and assuming things you don't know is a dangerous thing, and fear is going to make you assume negative things, and that's not productive, either. So I'm just trying to point out to you here that, despite all of this spin campaign that has been ginned up on her behalf for the last 13 years, it hasn't worked, for a whole host of reasons, but the main reason is her. There's just not that much likable about her, and there really hasn't been.
The sense of entitlement that the media, the Democrats have attached to her, is as I said in the last hour. Here she was this Chicago woman that went to school at Yale and met this horn dog from Arkansas, and she could have had a brilliant career on her own. You know, she was the leading feminist light. She made it plain as day she was a feminist, in every possible way. You could tell by looking. And she was going to go to all kinds of great heights. And then, and then she met and fell in love with a horn dog and gave it all up, gave it all up to move to the swamps of Arkansas, and had to lower herself to work in some place called the Rose Law Firm, so beneath her talents, so beneath her potential. Look at the years she sacrificed, and look at what she put the up with, Gennifer Flowers and who knows who else. And she stood behind him, and she was the reason he became elected president, and now it's her turn to be rewarded. That's been the whole thing that's propelled her. That's it. Her health care plan had a large role in the Republicans winning the House in 1994 in those elections. We're not dealing with somebody here who is unbeatable or who is even that formidable.
Rush nailed Hitlery on this!
Rush Limbaugh ping!
What is there to be scared of? What I am scared of is Republicans afraid of a fight.
Rush is of course right on this, but the problem is this: will the American people be right on this? And the answer to that question is far from certain, despite what Rush maintains. Many millions of American literally idolize both Clintons and would follow them off a sudden cliff to their deaths.
Hillary won't get the dem nomination. Unfortunately, Guiliani will be the next Prez. Better than any democrat, but not my cup o tea.
Under normal circumstances, I'd agree that as of 2008 the United States would not elect the likes of Hillary. I think the US will still naturally favor a conservative for at least a couple more elections, but that doesn't mean that events, and the media, couldn't conspire to elect Hillary.
I could see the war on terror cutting both ways; if things are quiet and Iraq is stable then Americans might overlook that Hillary would be commander-in-chief, while if its bad, people might be fed up and vote for someone they think will get us out asap.
If the economy is bad. If gas prices are still so high. If the corruption charge still has play....it could happen. And we shouldn't let up our guard, especially since the media will make it their number one goal to make Hillary synonomous with 'moderate' and 'centrist.'
I think she would off bill if she thought it would garner any sympathy votes. Of course that would make her the first Black Widow President. I'm not sure she could overcome this hurdle..
It has little to do with politics. It has everything to do with the mushy middle who watch American Idol.
If you're more likeable than the other guy, you win.
Hopefully Bush can get Scotus nomination 3 in before he leaves if Rudy gets it.
Please God, just one more Supreme Court Justice from Bush....oh, please.
Good one ..... heheheheeee :)
But more importantly, recall this:
HILLARY: I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic, and we should stand up and say, "We are Americans, and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!"
I'm sorry, but the simple truth is that all the Republican party has to do is run that clip, without editing or comment.
Only a very few balding ponytailed girlymen could stand to have THAT shrieking at them for 4-8 years, or would trust THAT to defend their families against terrorism.
The Dems, if they take back the House, may very well try to impeach Bush, but in the end, he's seen by friend and foe as someone who did TOO MUCH to fight terror. Against those who want restraint in the fight against terror, that's a powerful weapon.
Stevens can retire, that would do the trick.
Two more would be most excellent.
My biggest concern is McCain pulling a Ross Perot by running independant and screwing us over by splitting the conservative vote.
I don't think Hillary can get more than 50% of the vote. Rush made a good point. a) Bill never got 50%. b) This is the best Hillary is ever going to look to people. She has gotten nothing but wonderful press for 13 years now...no opposing views of her. No real, genuine scrutiny. She's not going to be able to do that through a campaign.
The only way she wins it is if we can't put up a good candidate or if McCain successfully splits us up. We totally need to be on guard for that....remember the result of Perot. Eight years of one of the worst Presidents in American history.
One more would give a conservative majority for the first time in 50-60 years.
Two more would be an earthquake of massive proportions and effect a change on the court for generations.
Hopefully Stevens will die or resign at the very least.
I gotta disagree with you. Unless Guiliani comes out strongly against abortion, and renounces his support of partal birth abortion, he won't even get the nomination.
resign, I hope. LOL
Except I don't believe she 'fell in love' with that horn dog; she saw power potential. She didn't really give it all up, either, but took a different route. A single feminist wasn't going to make it anywhere politically back then unless she was just going to be a sideshow like Joan Baez or Jane Fonda. The way to attain power and recognition was by attaching herself to the fat boy from Arkansas who had once met the iconic Democrat president, JFK.
Maybe a house will fall on Ginsburg (f-in' witch!).
You state that so assuredly. What is your reasoning?
He'll have to tack to the center on abortion and gun control. He's smart enough to know that if he is going to win, it's a must. So if he chooses to run, and I think he will, he'll have made that decision to correct the things that would prevent his nomination.
I would definitely despise her less if that happened, but not enough to vote for her.
That's what I have been saying for nearly 18 months now. Hillary isn't the threat people want to protray her to be.
She is probably the ONE candidate that would mobilize the right and awaken the sleeping giant that is Conservative America......
I'm not so sure that Hillary will even win the nomination in 2008.
She will run to the middle, as she has in every campaign. The radicals control the party now, and I think probably will two years from now as well. They will not hold their nose and vote for a centrist again, I don't think. They are too angry.
In other words lie.
He is by FAR the best campaigner of any pubbie Prez wannabee. Everyone likes him personally, including die hard conservatives. He's smart enough to know that he'll need to lurch right on gays, guns and abortion to get the nomination. He'll have the confidence of the American people to finish out the WOT, and he'll talk tougher than even John McCain.
It's Hillary presidency, Bush told
Insight ^ | 17 January 2006 Posted on 01/16/2006 4:38:45 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
President Bush's advisers are resigned to the Democratic capture of the White House in 2008, according to senior Republican sources close to the White House. GOP sources said White House strategists have attempted to persuade Mr. Bush that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, New York Democrat and her party’s current front-runner to be the next presidential nominee, cannot be defeated in 2008. Bush strategists said the president should instead focus on seeking to retain the Republican majority in both houses of Congress in 2006 and 2008.
Oh jeez, you just scared me out of my entire lunch!
"McCain might pull a Perot in 2008 and split the Republican vote (and elect Hillary)."
This is spooky, this is awful! The egotistical SOB just might do it! He doesn't give a damn for the Republican Party! McCain is for McCain, alone and aloof.
Publish this, I don't care how! You've hit it! I know I will!
Frightening thought.
"My biggest concern is McCain pulling a Ross Perot by running independant and screwing us over by splitting the conservative vote."
McF*ckstick WILL run 3rd party when he gets trounced in the primaries. Why? Well he's a......."Maverick".
What of the poll published by Drudge, where 51% of the respondents said they would not vote for Hillary? Those are awfully high negatives to overcome. And she would galvanize her opposition. There's also the disgruntled Left to consider, where some toy with the idea of a third party.
And lie convincingly.
While, with all due respect, pissant, I disagree on Guiliani (I would love him as the next president just because I trust him in the WOT), I definitely agree on this point. Guiliani would be more attractive to many voters if Bush gets another SCOTUS pick.
Mrs. Bill Clinton loses then.
I think we have a shot. Ginsgerg will be calling it quits (I hope) for health in the next 9-12 months... and come on, J.P. Stevens, time to give it up already !!!!!
I agree with that.
Not unless any of her decisions displease the Clintons, and that's not likely.
Keep them in your prayers. Prayers for a comfy retirement. ;o)
I've heard him speak several times and he got standing ovations. Yes, I was among those standing and applauding, but the primary topic was his views on opposing terrorism. (I give him extra points for being a cute East Coast Italian, which I find hard to resist.)
My guess when I saw that thread a few days ago was that it was simply another leftist media story designed to assist Hitlery's campaign. As far as the left and their media accomplices are concerned, Hitlery is the only possible winner in 2008.
You've gotta love the fact that Clinton put an old woman in there while Bushes put the youngest, healthiest people they could find. I TOTALLY think that's why Bush was so concerned about Robert's excercise regimen.
He can use that as his excuse, that it was worth sacrificing his more moderate social views in order to be mayor and clean that city up (which he did very well). So if he does "rediscover" his Catholic Faith, he'll be a shoe in.
Bingo!!!ark_girl...this is precisely the most likely scenario....nobody EVER references the fact that Slick Willy could never get more than 43% of the vote....while McCain would do this just for the fun of seeing himself in the news every day for 9 months...
She does, unless she goes up against somebody like Arlen Specter. He's not likeable at all.
Pick a Republican who doesn't fit the likeability mode. Tom DeLay, even before the bogus charges against him, never was a candidate for Mr. Congeniality. He couldn't win the Presidency.
Frist could. He seems like a nice guy. Schwarzenegger could, but he's not eligible.
Jeb Bush would win in a landslide. He IS a nice guy.
Hillary is not a nice guy. She can only pretend to be one for a little while but once she gets off script she's whatever expletive you want to call her, and you'd be accurate.
I don't think she'd survive the rigors of a presidential campaign and end up looking like the nice guy.
The South and non-coastal western states are not easily fooled.
The country's most prolific voting bloc, the Christian Right, will never vote for him. Gun owners will desert him.
If the G.O.P. nominee is Giulini then it will be the G.O.P., and no one else, responsible for allowing Hillary Rodham Clinton to capture the White House.
Hate to break it to you, but Guiliani would crush Hillary. But Hillary ain't gonna be there.
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