Posted on 01/21/2006 7:10:20 PM PST by djf
In 1980, a man from a small town called Limone Sul Garda in northern Italy went to a doctor for some problem, not heart related.

Testing of his blood showed very high levels of triglycerides, and very low levels of HDL, the good form of cholesterol. By all rights, the man should have either been dead from, or in imminent danger of a heart attack.
But his arteries were clear.
Analysis of his blood showed he had a very special form of Lipoprotein, a type of HDL. And further work with this particular type of Lipoprotein revealed astounding results.
In some of the initial small scale tests of this form of HDL, volunteers were given one shot a week of it, for a trial that lasted five weeks.
Measurements of the blockage in their arteries showed that total blockage was reduced by 4% in five weeks. While this may not sound like much, to a cardiologist, it's equivalent to taking years off of your cardiac age.
Further testing and analysis with animals show fantastic results. While standard HDL's are desirable, this substance has been shown to for all intents and purposes, to completely reverse heart disease.
Various articles have referred to it as "Drano for the arteries".
Research is continuing with a slightly modified, bioengineered form and results are extremely promising.
The cholesterol (and yes, it is cholesterol) that is saving these people's lives is called ApoA-Milano.
And of the forty or fifty people in that tiny Italian town, all descended from a man born in 1760, a man who had a small change in his genes, not a single one has yet to die from heart disease!
http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/LSD-Milano-Bielicki.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-01-08-heart-disease-cover_x.htm
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/290/17/2292
There are 96 references on PubMed for apoa milano
What?
Must be part Cylon. :)
What do y'all think of this?
if this is on the level, it would be a tremendous break-through for 10's of millions of people.
There were people long ago who must have had GANGBUSTER immune systems.
Eleanor of Aquitane lived to be 80, WITH having several children. 11th century, I think.
William the Conquorer lived to be 72. Imagine his immune system with all the disease and battle he lived through. Also 11th century.
Our gene pool becomes weaker and weaker, as the years go by, as we "save" those who would have died 100 years ago....and THEY have children.
No values or morals here, just plain genes. We ARE getting a weaker and weaker gene pool. We let Downes Syndrome people have children also.
Ping
The mods know me. I ain't gonna post gibberish. It's on the level.
Heard about this about 10 years ago. It's real.
Just waiting for the shots to become available before I have the Big One.
No, we in general don't have it. But those 50 or so people in the town do!
This is similar to the Delta-32 mutation that some Europeans have. If both your parents have it, you are immune to black death and hiv.
No values or morals here, just plain genes. We ARE getting a weaker and weaker gene pool. We let Downes Syndrome people have children also.
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I see where you're going with that crap.
No.
Thank.
You.
Don't know about the specifics of the article, but our family has genetically high colesterol and there has never been a heart attack or heart disease in several generations.
"Super HDL" Reverses Atherosclerosis Extraordinary results of Cleveland Clinic-led study may be a "paradigm shift" in treatment of America's most deadly ailment.
Do 40 people in a small village in rural Italy hold the key to reversing plaque buildup in coronary arteries? A new study appearing in the Nov. 5 edition of the Journal of the American Medical Association* provides strong evidence that five weekly infusions of a synthetic form of good cholesterol, or HDL, can remove significant amounts of plaque from these arteries.
This is an extraordinary and unprecedented finding, said Cleveland Clinic cardiologist Steven E. Nissen, M.D., who directed the 10-center nationwide study. This is the first convincing demonstration that targeting HDL, good cholesterol, can benefit patients with heart disease, the leading cause of death in the United States.
The development of this investigational drug is an unusual story. About 30 years ago, researchers discovered 40 individuals in Limone Sul Garda in Northern Italy who appeared perfectly healthy, despite having very low levels of good cholesterol. Ordinarily, such people would have a high risk of heart disease, but these people did not. Intrigued, researchers wanted to find out why. Their studies revealed a variant in a protein known as Apolipoprotein A-I, which is a component of HDL. This variant was named ApoA-I Milano after the city of Milan, where the initial laboratory work was done.
ApoA-I Milano is being developed into a potential treatment for heart disease by Esperion Therapeutics Inc., an Ann Arbor, Mich.-based biopharmaceutical company. Esperions investigational treatment, designated ETC-216, is a recombinant version of ApoA-I Milano combined with a phospholipid. After pre-clinical studies showed rapid removal of plaques from diseased arteries, scientists at Esperion came to Dr. Nissen to help them design a study to determine whether infusions of the ApoA-I Milano/phospholipid complex could reverse coronary plaque buildup in patients with heart disease.
The Cleveland Clinic-directed study administered the ApoA-I Milano/phospholipid complex intravenously over a five-week period to a randomized group of patients initially hospitalized for acute chest pain. Researchers measured arterial plaques using intravascular ultrasound (IVUS) before and after the six-week study. Patients who were given the synthetic protein showed a dramatic decrease in arterial plaques, whereas a comparison group given saline showed no change in plaques.
Atherosclerosis, sometimes known as hardening of the arteries, is the process by which fatty deposits build up on the inner lining of artery walls, creating plaques. These plaques can grow large enough to significantly reduce blood flow. If the plaques rupture, they can cut off blood flow to vital organs, including the heart, causing heart attacks.
Traditional therapies for atherosclerosis focus on lowering levels of bad cholesterol, known as LDL. Although high levels of HDL have been shown to be beneficial, the clinical significance of targeting HDL therapeutically was unknown. This trial sought to test that possibility.
Dr. Nissen cautions that, Much more testing needs to be performed to determine whether this unique form of HDL can be used routinely to treat patients with atherosclerosis. He emphasized that the current clinical trial was a small proof of concept study, designed only to demonstrate the potential of this new therapy.
People should not view new therapies as a magic-bullet cure. For most of us, medicines will never replace the need to make healthy lifestyle choices, Nissen said.
Nonetheless, this study represents a paradigm shift, he continued, offering new hope for a devastating and common disease. We now know that it is possible to actively remove cholesterol plaques from the coronary arteries with drugs. I am confident that eventually this approach will make a significant difference in the care of patients with coronary heart disease.
Study Details
The ApoA-I Milano trial involved 57 acute coronary syndrome patients in a randomized, prospective, double-blind, multicenter clinical trial conducted from November 2001 to March 2003. All patients had experienced an acute coronary syndrome, either unstable angina (severe chest pain) or heart attack. Each patient had a single coronary artery examined using IVUS within two weeks following the cardiac event.
IVUS technology gives doctors the ability to visualize coronary plaques using high-frequency sound waves. The procedure is performed along with cardiac catheterization. Doctors are able to see detailed images of the interior walls of the arteries and precisely measure the size of the plaques inside the artery.
Patients were randomized to three treatment groups placebo, low dose or high dose of intravenous recombinant ApoA-I Milano/phospholipid complex. The study drug was administered as a weekly intravenous infusion for a total of five weeks. Patients underwent IVUS of the originally imaged coronary artery for a second time within two weeks following the final infusion. The second images then were compared with baseline images to compare plaque levels. Researchers found a statistically significant change in volume of the thickened, fatty lining inside the arteries of patients who had received either the high or the low dose of intravenous recombinant ApoA-I Milano/phospholipid complex.
This is not true. Apo-A is a lipoprotein, not a sterol.
If you dig through the references and cross-references, though, this discovery (25 years ago) led to the discovery of statins and their effect on cholesterol.
I have a low cholesterol "problem" pretty much like the one this fellow has ~ and you'll notice he's "short" on the good stuff while also being low on the bad stuff, and on triglycerides.
I also have an hereditary reaction to all of the statin drugs ~ they call it "myalgia", or intense intramuscular pain. Read the ads and you'll see the warning. They tell you this is a rare side-effect.
It's that amalgram of blood he got from a single cylon parent
Thanks for posting it. I read about that small village in Italy, but then I didn't know what became of the research.
If this really works when people take it, as it is when it's passed on genetically, it can virtually end cardiovascula diseases caused by clogged arteries.
What are you saying? That I should smile and grin when someone suggests that the "genepool is getting polluted"? Doesn't that imply that the "genepool needs to be cleaned up"?
Remember Auschwitz started when some drunken German in a bar in 1919 started blaming the Jews. The time to nip evil is in the bud.
Important medical discovery ping.
More detail in here, one of the links supplied with the original post:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-01-08-heart-disease-cover_x.htm
I was wondering about that. Why, then, if I get my cholesterol measured, do they break it into ldl's and hdl's?
According to some of the literature I read, there are only 18 known natural forms of cholesterol.
Cholesterol isn't really the bad guy anyways. It's the oxidation and irritation of the arteries. The cholesterol is the "patch".
BTW, I do have high cholesterol, but my hdl/ldl is pretty good.
I think starfish was just stating a "fact." NOT saying we should take any action....sheesh.
Check your CRP (C-Reactive Protein)....that COULD matter more than cholesterol
Exactly. The predictive value of the concentrations and ratios is where it's at.
BTW, I do have high cholesterol, but my hdl/ldl is pretty good.
Congrats on the ratio. Keep up the good work.
Waiting, to cut out the deadwood.
Waiting, to clean up the city.
Waiting, to follow the worms.
Waiting, to put on a black shirt.
Waiting, to weed out the weaklings.
Waiting, to smash in their windows and kick in their doors.
Waiting, for the final solution to strengthen the strain.
Waiting, to follow the worms.
Waiting, to turn on the showers and fire the ovens.
Thanks for the ping.
FYI
Various articles have referred to it as "Drano for the arteries".
There already is and has been "Drano for the arteries", it's called EDTA. Something most doctors pretty much hold as a secret amongst themselves. If the public knew of it and used it, there big money cardio business would suffer greatly.
Essentially it's a low grade acid that enters the bloodstream and slowly disolves away the plaque build-up in the arteries.
http://www.townsendletter.com/Chelation/chelation_glassman.htm
Interesting article.
Yes, interesting. Not really for the ping list, however. More of a medical thing.
Ping
Scientific arrogance is commonplace. Physicians consider themselves to be experts in their own field. If a majority of physicians do not endorse a new therapy, they collectively rely on public recognition of their own "expertise" to discount a new concept that they themselves have not yet embraced. They forget that all great advances in medicine began with a small minority. Their thinking tends to follow along these lines: "If I'm the expert and I don't use this new therapy and if my many colleagues and peers are experts and they don't believe in the new therapy, then we must be right and that small group of physicians who believe differently must be wrong. We're the experts."
http://drcranton.com/chelation/carter.htm
they need this for cancer as well
i mean this type of discovery
I mentioned EDTA on a previous thread a while back and got absolutely pounded for it.
Even though a quick search on PubMed shows hundreds of studies that show it has positive effects on blood pressure, and helps with blood flow to the lowere extremities, etc. The evidence is pretty overwhelming that EDTA works.
E x a c t l y.
Exactly right. But how in the world do we go about correcting the germ line? Carrier screening helps, but that's limited to a small number of diseases, and not all couples are always willing to consider their risk of passing on a disease anyway.
I have always seen the birthing process as one obvious example. C-section has enabled the survival of infants from moms with narrow birth canals. Assuming that trait has some genetic basis, the procedure could become ever-more necessary over time... until we interevene - or more likely, the basket of bad traits reaches a breaking point and we all get sick at once!
As one of those who would have been "eliminated" 200 years ago... I take very deep exception.
Here's my question: If I don't die from heart attack or stroke, then my chances of dying form cancer go up. Is this a good thing?
This has *GOT* to be a lie, because all the Creationists keep telling me that mutations are all bad, and that mutations that help never happen.
And Creationists are never wrong.
I suppose you will still die of something eventually. And actually, if I had my choice between years of agony from cancer where I knew I was dying, and a two minute heart attack that came unexpectedly (kinda like winning the lottery in reverse), I'd opt for the second.
My father died in his early 50's from a heart attack, when they found him he still had a cigarette between his fingers that had burned out. So it was pretty darn fast.
And I now am older than he was then.
It is sad that you cannot make a simple observation; as you did, without being attacked by a few people jumping to conclusions. I feel sorry for you.
I was wondering how they were going to cure President Laura, but as my brother pointed out, the prophecy says the one who leads humanity back to Earth is going to die....
Mutants live longer?
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