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Lawyer: Teen Shot by Police Brain Dead
Associated Press ^ | Saturday, January 14, 2006 | KELLI KENNEDY

Posted on 01/14/2006 4:44:59 PM PST by Peace4EarthNow

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To: ARealMothersSonForever

Clearly it was the kids fault.

RE: boys and their love affair with guns, my 3 boys would pick up sticks and pretend to shoot each other. I actually was rather careful about what they watched, but there seems to be a gene for attraction to guns in boys. We never let them have bb guns because that seemed pointless. They all got 22s when they were old enough. And they all learned to shoot. But we didn't want guns to be toys in any way. I'm sure alot of people think that's goofy, but it seemed reasonable.
susie


61 posted on 01/14/2006 5:56:56 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder


Although it has been many years since I read the novels and saw the early movies, I believe you are both correct with the Walther replacing the .25 Baretta.


62 posted on 01/14/2006 6:02:54 PM PST by JimSEA (America cannot have an exit strategy from the world.)
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To: WayneS
It didn't look "real" until...

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/177_ec.htm

The above is a pellet gun.

Wake up.

As I said, I despise them.

63 posted on 01/14/2006 6:04:05 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: Peace4EarthNow
"He was a quiet kid — polite and everything. He was just a normal teenager."


Uh hmmmn, now what kind of freako was he before he bucked out?
64 posted on 01/14/2006 6:05:01 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I heard he was arrested last year for threatening to blow the school up. This kid was a bomb with a short fuse, well, he just got defused, and rightfully so. Better him, than them.
65 posted on 01/14/2006 6:08:13 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Diver Dave

I do think a comma might have helped hugh.


66 posted on 01/14/2006 6:13:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: restornu

I know where you're coming from. I doubt this kids parents ever thought they'd be going through this.


67 posted on 01/14/2006 6:14:06 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis; John O
"He was a quiet kid — polite and everything. He was just a normal teenager."

Ever notice that all of these kids are quite and normal? I seem to recall that the kid in Kentucky and the two from Columbine were quiet and polite and normal.

It's amazing. You put a gun in the hand of a perfectly sane kid, and he turns into a hostage-taking, cold-blooded killer. /s off

68 posted on 01/14/2006 6:14:51 PM PST by andie74 (Hook 'em Horns!!!!)
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To: Peace4EarthNow

God Bless his family. I guess they are devastated. I'm only happy that he didn't shoot anyone before he got shot. Even though it was a pellet gun, it could still kill.


69 posted on 01/14/2006 6:15:01 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: doug from upland
The article said he went to school wanting to die. Maybe this was a suicide by police. The bullying part of this story is disturbing. This stuff happens more than we care to think. Some kids just can't deal with it. I have no use for bullies.

Sounds as if he had clinical depression. I'm sure the parents will agonize over this for the rest of their lives. Very sad.

70 posted on 01/14/2006 6:17:53 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: DoughtyOne

"Frankly, the kid was brain dead before the police shot him."

You have just described all too many students in the Sheeple's Republic of FloriDUH.

A teacher friend of mine, when I asked him about his students, replied "You talking about those things masquerading as humans who take up space in my classroom?"

He is one of the more talented, no - make that gifted, teachers I have met. But, with no consequences for asocial behavior, all too many students are doing a good job of impersonating "brute beasts of the field".


71 posted on 01/14/2006 6:23:29 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
I'm pretty sure it was a Walther PPK."

You're half right, my friend, and kudos to you for your knowledge of the Bond books! In the beginning, Bond preferred the Beretta, but several novels into the series, "M" made him give it up (due to its unreliability) and forced him to switch to the Walther PPK. Bond was pi**ed.

72 posted on 01/14/2006 6:23:48 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Ciexyz
Every time I hear of a "Beretta", I think of the James Bond novels. The Beretta was 007's weapon of choice.

I believe the Beretta was this fellow's weapon of choice too:


73 posted on 01/14/2006 6:25:16 PM PST by kstewskis ("Political correctness is intellectual terrorism..." Mel Gibson)
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To: brytlea

Absolutely the right choice. Teach boys to use guns as tools, not toys. We even practice gun safety with toy guns here in our home.

Learning to shoot is a requirement for graduating from my homeschool.


74 posted on 01/14/2006 6:26:20 PM PST by andie74 (Hook 'em Horns!!!!)
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To: Peace4EarthNow
The idiot painted his pellet gun, took hostages, and pointed his weapon at LEOs.

Teen now Brain Dead

Yes, STILL brain dead. At least he didn't take an innocent life in the process. And for the bullying - cry me a river. I was bullied in school at that age, as were a lot of people. He - 100% himself - chose to go down this road. The only things tragic about this case would be: (1) the parents are likely going through the most testing period of their lives; and (2), whoever fired the shot is probably feeling really really bad. The hostage-taker got what he deserved.

Signed: Heartless SOB

75 posted on 01/14/2006 6:26:57 PM PST by M203M4
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To: kstewskis
I believe the Beretta was this fellow's weapon of choice, too....

Easy to see why Mel Gibson was voted People Mag's "Sexist Man Alive" back in that era.

76 posted on 01/14/2006 6:31:35 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: WayneS

A little off topic but I've always wondered what if a criminal painted bright orange on the tip of a real gun? Seems to me like the police would be concerned with whether or not the orange tip on any gun is really meaningful.


77 posted on 01/14/2006 6:33:34 PM PST by pepperdog
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To: Ciexyz

That's for sure! ;o)


78 posted on 01/14/2006 6:33:52 PM PST by kstewskis ("Political correctness is intellectual terrorism..." Mel Gibson)
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To: Peace4EarthNow
There is no doubt in my mind that this kid was a psycho and would have eventually turned into a Columbino.....taking down any number of people on a cold, quiet, emotionless rampage out of the blue on some sunny Florida day.

Leni

79 posted on 01/14/2006 6:34:23 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: pepperdog

My cop brother told me that he could care less whether or not the gun has an orange tip. If he orders someone to put down a weapon of any type and they choose not to, well, he's sure that HE is going home that night.


80 posted on 01/14/2006 6:38:24 PM PST by andie74 (Hook 'em Horns!!!!)
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