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Secret Information In Plain Sight (CIA finding high value intel online)
CBS News ^ | January 10 2006

Posted on 01/10/2006 7:40:42 PM PST by jmc1969

Inside CIA headquarters, a high-tech monitoring operation scores an intelligence coup, obtaining a close-up photo of an Iranian nuclear facility.

The source: an Iranian blog discovered in the vast labyrinth of the Internet, CBS News correspondent David Martin reports.

Elliot Jardines is this United States' first director for open source intelligence, an unusual job in a business that usually keeps its sources secret.

For Jardines, useful intelligence lies in plain sight.

"Pretty much anything we need is available through open sources," Jardines says.

Jihadist Web sites are not likely to give away the whereabouts of a wanted terrorist like Abu Musab al Zarqawi or Osama bin Laden, but they do reveal other things about them.

"There's a lot of interest in 'Is Osama bin Laden losing market share?' if you will. How is he playing vis-a-vis Zarqawi," Naquin says.

He adds that, "Osama bin Laden hasn't said anything for months and so Zarqawi seems to be really taking up the mantle."

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: cia; globaljihad; intelligence; internet

1 posted on 01/10/2006 7:40:42 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969; Dog; Coop; Marine_Uncle

Damn, I wish I had these guys jobs. Searching blogs for intel and getting paid for it seems quite nice.


2 posted on 01/10/2006 7:47:52 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

Open source is great. That's why Jim has "Loose lips sink ships" in red when we type a post.


3 posted on 01/10/2006 7:52:16 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: jmc1969

Note to CBS and the rest of the MSM, when the CIA goes searching for intelligence on the Internet they turn to the blogs like the rest of the country is doing.


4 posted on 01/10/2006 8:08:09 PM PST by eggman (Democrat party - The black hole of liberalism from which no rational thought can escape.)
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To: jmc1969

Talk about loose lips, why give a heads up on what we are doing?


5 posted on 01/10/2006 11:06:17 PM PST by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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To: jmc1969

Recruited at Spring Break 2003!


6 posted on 01/11/2006 3:01:29 AM PST by Khurkris ("Hell, I was there"...Elmer Keith.)
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To: Cap Huff
Hey Cap I think they have been reading our posts....:-)

"There's a lot of interest in 'Is Osama bin Laden losing market share?' if you will. How is he playing vis-a-vis Zarqawi," Naquin says.

He adds that, "Osama bin Laden hasn't said anything for months and so Zarqawi seems to be really taking up the mantle."

LOL!

7 posted on 01/11/2006 4:37:21 AM PST by Dog
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To: jmc1969
the whereabouts of a wanted terrorist like Elvis Bin Laden


8 posted on 01/11/2006 4:44:07 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: VeniVidiVici; jmc1969
Open source is great. That's why Jim has "Loose lips sink ships" in red when we type a post.

Particularly when you realize how many military people, defense contractor employees, law enforcement (etc, etc) and their friends and family post here.

The same is true overseas. People chat with their friends and families about stuff that maybe they shouldn't, and the friend/family thinks "this is so interesting, I just GOTTA mention it in my blog!"

Of course, mixed in with the good info is a lot of disinformation. If you can't stop all the leaks, then the next best thing is to flood the pipeline with so much deliberate disinformation that there's no way to tell what's good and what's bad

9 posted on 01/11/2006 4:55:45 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: Dog

I wonder whether we should let them in on what we think Zawahiri is up to . . .

;-)


10 posted on 01/11/2006 4:57:27 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Cap Huff

Or where to find him...:-)


11 posted on 01/11/2006 5:00:20 AM PST by Dog
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To: Dog

And now that we've been outed as not-so-undercover amateur spooks, do you think we could get the Justice Department to waste millions investigating how it didn't really happen?


12 posted on 01/11/2006 5:04:38 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Cap Huff

As long as I don't have to pose in my PJ's...for photos...its not a good sight...I might have to buy new sweatpants..


13 posted on 01/11/2006 5:11:11 AM PST by Dog
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To: jmc1969
If you have the time and interest, look into the Advanced search capabilities of Google. Coupled with the sizable Google cahce and the powers of the advanced searching tools, you will be something between amazed and frightened at what you can find.

Try this one: intitle:"Index of" "Last Modified" inurl:edu

This query will show you every open directory in the edu domain.

You can also search within specific files for patterns.

filetype:xls SSN Jones

It's all right there in plain sight courtesy of incompetency. One security slip, a google crawler goes by and your privacy becomes public.
14 posted on 01/11/2006 5:16:28 AM PST by IamConservative (Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times will pick himself up and carry on.)
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To: Dog

You know, I never thought about it before, but I wonder whether that photo was a subtle hint that ol' Valerie is an undercover member of the pajamahideen:

http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/2006/01/about-that-uranium-in-niger.html

Anyway, any member in good standing of the pajamahideen should be proud to wear the "uniform."

All kidding aside, this does point out that a forum like FR, which draws numerous posts from perceptive people watching the blogs, etc. must be at times poking around the edges of serious intel analysis. And sometimes the stuff we see discussed here is just in left field (but hey, so is the CIA at times, as well).


15 posted on 01/11/2006 5:27:11 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: jmc1969
Psst! Alphabet people!


16 posted on 01/11/2006 5:29:56 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: SlowBoat407

Just curious. Why does searching the internet for pictures of Irans nuclear sites warrant such merit and Colin Powell showing Iraq's capabilities to the entire world via satellite imagery is viewed as fabricated?


17 posted on 01/11/2006 6:38:14 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("We don't need POLITICIANS...we need STATESMEN.")
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To: jmc1969
"Damn, I wish I had these guys jobs. Searching blogs for intel and getting paid for it seems quite nice."
Yea. Know what you mean. More then once I have had thoughts of sitting in a CIA,DIA,NSA center and wading through stuff. Making a decent salary. It must unravel the Iranina regime a bit to realize everything they have above ground is cataloged, and assigned a target valule for first, second strikes etc..
18 posted on 01/11/2006 8:33:03 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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