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The War on Beer (ZOT!!! Try Our Delicious Troll in Beer Batter)
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Posted on 01/06/2006 10:07:15 AM PST by Its a Culture War

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. -- A state senator wants to force Missouri stores to sell warm beer. Under a bill by Sen. Bill Alter, grocery and convenience stores would risk losing their liquor licenses if they sold beer colder than 60 degrees. The intent is to cut down on drunken driving by making it less tempting to pop open a beer after leaving the store.

"The only reason why beer would need to be cold is so that it can be consumed right away," Alter, who has been a police offer for more than 20 years, said Thursday.


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To: A Jovial Cad

I'm coming into this thread late. Why was this a ZOT? What's been edited that I missed?


101 posted on 01/06/2006 10:42:39 AM PST by YourAdHere (Viking kitties taste like chicken.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

As long as Halibeerton runs this war, there can BE no exit strategy. Send in more Cornnuts and start a tab. Just be aware of brewicide bongers. Bas*ards want our heads.


102 posted on 01/06/2006 10:43:22 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Make high definition tv fun. Aggravate 'em until their heads explode.)
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To: caver

Serious drunks don't even know that the beer is warm or cold.


103 posted on 01/06/2006 10:43:42 AM PST by dmz
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To: Its a Culture War
Some beer is meant to remain cool, not cold, or it starts to deteriorate at a faster rate. Anyone who's had the dubious pleasure of opening a green-bottle beer that's been kept in the sun will know what I mean.

There are forces of nature that Man was never meant to tamper with. Beer is one of those.

104 posted on 01/06/2006 10:44:20 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: add925

Leiney's: Leinenkugel's, pride of Chiipewa Falls, WI.


105 posted on 01/06/2006 10:44:34 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Don't buy Bose. Their warranty is no good.)
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To: YourAdHere

Post #1 was removed


106 posted on 01/06/2006 10:44:34 AM PST by add925 ("Never Interfere with a Lifestyle that Thins Out the Liberal Herd" - Me)
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To: YourAdHere
Zot? Who Knew?

We were all IB4TZ.

Good Morning Moderators. Nice to see you all awake this morning!

107 posted on 01/06/2006 10:44:54 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: RebelBanker
It's 5 o'clock somewhere!

Don't you mean noon?

108 posted on 01/06/2006 10:45:08 AM PST by green iguana
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To: Vision
Thanks for your 'Vision'.

Original Poster: 'Its a Culture War'

Not ME!!!!

109 posted on 01/06/2006 10:45:34 AM PST by YouPosting2Me
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To: 1rudeboy

I'm fighting the good fight right by your side, babe!


110 posted on 01/06/2006 10:45:36 AM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: bmwcyle

Guinness cold is not nearly as good as Guinness approaching room temperature, and I'm a bloody Yank.


111 posted on 01/06/2006 10:45:47 AM PST by dmz
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To: A Jovial Cad

You were right. I didn't see anything wrong with the post.


112 posted on 01/06/2006 10:45:50 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Smoked a big cigar, drove a Cadillac car, said "Boss, I think this band's outta sight!")
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To: Semper Paratus

I never drink beer on the golf course. Whiskey is a lot easier to pack in my bag, and that way I have enough for everyone.

When I go golfing with the guys from work, it is our custom that the first shot of the day involves neither a club nor a ball.


113 posted on 01/06/2006 10:45:54 AM PST by RonF
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To: eleni121

I believe that all the drinking laws actually contribute to drunken driving. This is because these laws create a climate where one wants to "drink as much as possible when one can". Thus we have underage teens drinking unsupervised in places that they usually have to drive out to. Or adults on their way to a place where drinks are either limited or not allowed will tend to drink heavily before going to these places.


114 posted on 01/06/2006 10:46:17 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Time to clean up for the cleaning people)
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To: GSlob
"WHAT IS OUR EXIT STRATEGY IN THE WAR ON BEER?"

Bathroom is behind the corner, and the door is marked.

That's the beer's exit strategy...

115 posted on 01/06/2006 10:46:17 AM PST by green iguana
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To: eleni121

I am totally with you on the drinking and driving and if this law would prevent it maybe I could see it passing, but this is not going to prevent people who would normally drink and drive from stopping.


116 posted on 01/06/2006 10:46:59 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: miloklancy

A purity law won't keep breweries from selling watery crap (e.g., Coors Light). But it'll at least keep breweries from selling something that's half beer and half saki (e.g., Budwesier).


117 posted on 01/06/2006 10:47:34 AM PST by RonF
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To: wallcrawlr

Very true. My sis in law noted her boyfriend had a drinking problem when all of her cooking wine was mysteriously missing.


118 posted on 01/06/2006 10:47:50 AM PST by dmz
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To: Its a Culture War

Your hands will probably be at least 60 degrees warm.


119 posted on 01/06/2006 10:47:56 AM PST by SwankyC (1st Bn 11th Marines Semper Fi)
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To: dmz

Yes your are correct. Keep that quiet, they might try to outlaw Guinness.


120 posted on 01/06/2006 10:48:06 AM PST by bmwcyle (Gael Murphy is a bug)
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To: RonF
NO DRINKING & DRIVING! Putting,yes.

Where have you been?!

121 posted on 01/06/2006 10:48:17 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Make high definition tv fun. Aggravate 'em until their heads explode.)
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To: martin_fierro
A week or two ago I was having a hard time finding "cigar-friendly" lounges ... in LAS VEGAS, of all places.

What the heck are you doing in a lounge? Virtually all casinos will let you smoke a stick at the gaming tables. Better casinos will comp you a cigar and a Courvoisier.

122 posted on 01/06/2006 10:48:40 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Leiney's: Leinenkugel's, pride of Chiipewa Falls, WI.

Leisey's lost out to the "Beasts" some time ago. Glad Leineys has survived the megabeer barons.

Always felt Bud, Miller, etc., really did us a disservice when all the local breweries closed.

The only beer worst than these was Van Merritt. ;^)

123 posted on 01/06/2006 10:49:18 AM PST by add925 ("Never Interfere with a Lifestyle that Thins Out the Liberal Herd" - Me)
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To: Old Professer
It would take a real stupid drunk not to realize how fast a warm can of beer can be chilled by spinning it on top of a mound of ice.

We'd all be in trouble if those drunks figured out that about 10 seconds with the fire extinguisher will knock a 12 pack down close to freezing. It's expensive (if the extinguishers are yours), but it's fast.

124 posted on 01/06/2006 10:50:17 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: napscoordinator

I agree that this dumb law will not stop them.


125 posted on 01/06/2006 10:50:18 AM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Its a Culture War
Alter, who has been a police offer for more than 20 years, said Thursday.

So.. he's like a bribe, right?

126 posted on 01/06/2006 10:50:18 AM PST by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: SamAdams76

Yes, I've heard that before. I guess if I had some good pub beer from the UK, it would probably be good. I couldn't imagine trying to get a warm Budweiser down though. I'd have to hold my nose.


127 posted on 01/06/2006 10:50:32 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: YourAdHere

I don't know why he was zotted. I heard this story on the radio coming in this morning and groaned.


128 posted on 01/06/2006 10:50:41 AM PST by RabidBartender
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To: caver

And some beer is pretty nasty if you let it get that warm.

Currently enjoying Michelob Amber Bock. The colder the better.


129 posted on 01/06/2006 10:51:20 AM PST by airborne (If being a Christian was a crime, would there be enough evidence to convict you?)
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To: dmz

"Serious drunks don't even know that the beer is warm or cold."


And they probably don't care either.


130 posted on 01/06/2006 10:51:37 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: SamAdams76

Here most people will drink and drive because you are just as likely to get a public intox ticket if you decide to walk home. Most people figure you might as well limit your exposure and just drive home from the bar instead of walking. Either way you could land in the drunk tank.


131 posted on 01/06/2006 10:51:45 AM PST by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: napscoordinator
We need to revolt or something. Everyone at 8:00 on Friday night (tonight) pop open a beer in retaliation of this stupid proposal.

Great Idea! I'm going to start practicing now!
132 posted on 01/06/2006 10:52:15 AM PST by 1riot1ranger
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To: add925
Worst beer I ever drank was "Meister Brau." Before that, it was "Old Milwaukee" - which tasted like watered down rubbing alcohol.

Anyway, all this fuss about cold beer when I think the real problem is those "nips" that all the liquor stores sell at the checkout counter. These are the little bottles that you normally get on airplanes. I can't imagine people buy these to take home to their liquor cabinet. Obviously these are bought for the ride home.

133 posted on 01/06/2006 10:52:20 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Time to clean up for the cleaning people)
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To: RabidBartender

Retread? Did the Mod spot a zotted IP address?


134 posted on 01/06/2006 10:52:22 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: RonF
But it'll at least keep breweries from selling something that's half beer and half saki (e.g., Budwesier).

LOL!!!! Budsake, so that the trick?

135 posted on 01/06/2006 10:52:22 AM PST by add925 ("Never Interfere with a Lifestyle that Thins Out the Liberal Herd" - Me)
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To: caver

Germans and Brits like their beer warm.


136 posted on 01/06/2006 10:52:50 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Democrats value the privacy of terrorists higher than the lives of Americans.)
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To: Phantom Lord

Yes, got it right to 37 degrees F


137 posted on 01/06/2006 10:53:43 AM PST by eyespysomething (This space intentionally left blank......oh crud)
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To: airborne

I like Michelob Amber Bock on tap. Pretty good stuff.


138 posted on 01/06/2006 10:53:53 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: RabidBartender; All
I don't know why he was zotted.

The sarcastic pairing of "my Baby Jesus" with beer in comment #1, and I'm pretty sure this is a regular.

139 posted on 01/06/2006 10:55:20 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: TheForceOfOne; A Jovial Cad

If Jovial Cad is a mod and spotted the IP address, that would make sense.

I don't see a reason why folks would zot a guy just because he signed up today and posted a non-partisan story.


140 posted on 01/06/2006 10:55:45 AM PST by RabidBartender
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To: SamAdams76
Meister Brau & Old Milwaukee were bad, but I think Van Merritt was even a cheaper version of these brewed in Milwaukee...pretty sure, anyway.

An even bigger problem here in Ohio is the Drive-Thu Liquor Stores!

I avoid them just to avoid getting rear-ended (no Brokeback Mountian reference intended).

141 posted on 01/06/2006 10:55:47 AM PST by add925 ("Never Interfere with a Lifestyle that Thins Out the Liberal Herd" - Me)
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To: Admin Moderator

Ah..cool. Sorry for asking - just seen quite a few premature 'IB4Z's in the past week or so.

Thanks!


142 posted on 01/06/2006 10:56:56 AM PST by RabidBartender
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To: caver
I couldn't imagine trying to get a warm Budweiser down though.

I thought this thread was about drinking beer, not Budweiser.

143 posted on 01/06/2006 10:57:09 AM PST by RonF
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To: Old Professer

I think it is a true art, as his Bud Light is exceptionally good...it truly enhances the war story atmosphere...


144 posted on 01/06/2006 10:57:15 AM PST by nicko (CW3 (ret.) CPT, you need to just unass the AO; I know what I'm doing- Major, you're on your own.)
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To: bmwcyle
Image hosted by Photobucket.com you know why the Brits drink warm beer??? because they have LUCAS refrigerators!!! 8^)
145 posted on 01/06/2006 10:57:35 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: RabidBartender

I haven't a clue as to why it happened.


146 posted on 01/06/2006 10:57:38 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: SamAdams76

Interesting point. And I mostly agree with you. Laws generally do not take into consideration all the cultural, psychological, cultural factors that determine behavior patterns resulting from alcohol consumption.

What our society needs to get to is a way to allow people to drink without the resulting/accompanying mayhem. And certainly prohibiting the selling of "cold ones" does nothing to solve the problem.


147 posted on 01/06/2006 10:58:13 AM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: TASMANIANRED
For a couple years, my wife and I hosted German exchange students. They all recoiled in horror when they saw I kept my beer in the refrigerator. They would take the bottle out for at least an hour before drinking it. And even then they would complain it was too cold. Yes, these were high school students and they were already veteran beer drinkers. They think the "age 21" drinking laws over here are absolutely insane.

They also asked us to turn our AC down. They all hated air conditioning. They also didn't believe in daily showers, underarm deoderant and not wearing the same clothes more than three days in a row.

Weird how different cultures can be.

148 posted on 01/06/2006 10:58:18 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Time to clean up for the cleaning people)
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To: Its a Culture War

I heard guys like you drink straight from the crotch-faucet.


149 posted on 01/06/2006 10:58:25 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: SamAdams76

"Actually beer is intended to be drank warm."

Ales yes, lagers no. Never did really like lagers anyway.


150 posted on 01/06/2006 10:58:35 AM PST by ndt
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