Guilty When Charged

Chronicles Magazine ^ | Wednesday, December 28, 2005 | Paul Craig Roberts

[jazusamo]

Mr. Roberts seems to have all of his facts down pat. I would ask him if he thinks that the thousands of judges, prosecutors, defense attorneys and police officers in America have joined together in a vast right-wing conspiracy? I personally don't believe it.

[castlebrew]

As far as Abu Graib goes, there's places where people pay big bucks to have panties on there head or to be led around on a dog leash.

Where were you when the Mayor of Spokane was accused, tried, sentenced, and executed by the local paper fishwrap?

[castlebrew]

Did someone forget the barf alert?

[Congressman Billybob]

I used to respect the work of Paul Craig Roberts. I no longer do.

Are there convictions of the innocent? Of course. With about a half million people being convicted of crimes in the US every year, some miscarriages of justice are inevitable. However, it rel=mains true that the American justice system is slanted in favor of defendants, and there will always be many more guilty people who beat the rap, than innocent people wrongfully convicted.

Roberts' facts are wrong, so his thesis falls. He used to be an able writer and reporter. He is neither, in this piece.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: " 'Domestic' Dishonesty -- the Press and NSA 'Wiretaps' "

[castlebrew]

how many illegal aliens (who are not Americans) are included in that dubious statistic?

Must be counting the under-25 crowd as chirrun, as libs are wont to do when it comes to bogus gun crime stats. Let's see the state-by state rolls before this big lie gets accepted as fact. Should be easy enough to produce.

What's with the "...and life"? Implying lots of folks actually up for (so-called) Life terms...

[PAR35]

Perfectly innocent people "cop a plea".

And which point they would have committed the felony of perjury.

[Auntie Dem]

Does this apply to the Dim prosecuting Tom Delay?

[WasDougsLamb]

there are innocent folks in jail and free pedophiles walking the streets. SIGH!


---I know. It's sad and it makes you think of all the wife killers walking the streets free because they had money while some innocent people pay for crimes they had no part in. That is NOT justice.

[wildcatf4f3]

Thats the goal.. By doing so the court gets its money the prosecuter gets his "win" and the defence att has saved the defendent from anal rape in jail.

[Ninian Dryhope]

This article is nonsense.

[PA Engineer]

There is another option,

I agree. I was thinking zot.

[metmom]

You got further than I did. I began to question his credibility at the second sentence:American prisons are full of wrongfully convicted persons.

I don't doubt for a minute that some people are set up; especially where sexual crimes are involved, but I really don't believe that jails are *FULL* of wrongfully convicted people. I've seen many more crimes NOT prosecuted than I ever have met people who were wrongfully jailed.

[Ninian Dryhope]

"Do you believe that "Americans are 12 times more criminally inclined than Europeans"?"

Do you really think the European criminal justice system is better than the American criminal justice system?

The author is an obvious nutjob.

[Ninian Dryhope]

Here is another little gem from the esteemed Paul Crackpot Roberts:

"The spectacle of an American secretary of state being sent to Europe to reassure America’s allies that the United States does not torture prisoners has brought an end to America’s moral grandeur. America stands revealed before the world as just another unaccountable police state."

http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/cgi-bin/roberts.cgi/2005/12/21#Rendition_Unto_Caes

What a moonbat! He is just another European loving member of the blame America first crowd.

[Ninian Dryhope]

"Would you recommend Abu Ghraib treatment to the arrested American suspects?"

I would recommend the Abu Ghraib treatment for blame America first crackpots like Paul Craig Roberts.

[Ninian Dryhope]

"No, but we have one solution to every problem, and that's send everyone to jail."

What planet do you live on?

[Ninian Dryhope]

"This fellow has a totally warped perception and sense of proportion."

You got that right. The man is obviously a crackpot of the first order.

Here is another quote of his from the same source:

"The spectacle of an American secretary of state being sent to Europe to reassure America’s allies that the United States does not torture prisoners has brought an end to America’s moral grandeur. America stands revealed before the world as just another unaccountable police state."

http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/cgi-bin/roberts.cgi/2005/12/21#Rendition_Unto_Caes

What a wanker!

[Ninian Dryhope]

"There is a critical mass when the prison industry becomes so big that cannot be controlled."

Right. You and this crackpot author think the reason there is no justice (sic) in America is because Part the private prison industry requires huge quantities of inmates to fuel the profits of investors. What a load of bologna! The private prison industry was created to deal with the huge number of criminals that we needed to lock up in order to protect the law abiding amongst us from the predatory criminals. It worked too.

[Ninian Dryhope]

"There is another option, beside believing what you read so long as it pleases your political preferences or rejecting if it does not."

There is another option, that is to read with a lick of common sense and to reject witless blather written by a crackpot, such as your Mr. Roberts.

[Ninian Dryhope]

In other words, anyone who has ever read one of Paul Crackpot Roberts' columns should recognize that he is a world class nitwit.

Obviously anything this guy writes needs a big old barf alert in the title.