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Peggy Noonan: The Dean's Scream (Bush didn't get rolled. He rolled with the punches)
Wall Street Journal ^ | November 3, 2005 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 11/02/2005 11:05:03 PM PST by RWR8189

"The conservative screamers who shot down [Harriet] Miers can argue that they were fighting only for a 'qualified' nominee. . . . But whatever the rationale, the fact is that they short-circuited the confirmation process by raising hell with Bush. . . . A cabal of outsiders--a lynching squad of right-wing journalists, self-sanctified religious and moral organizations, and other frustrated power-brokers--[rolled] over the president they all ostensibly support."

--David Broder, Washington Post, Nov. 2     

 

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Nothing like the calming tones of The Dean to bring context and a needed sense of perspective to the proceedings. In his comments on Sunday's "Meet the Press" and in his post-Miers Meaning of It All column yesterday, Mr. Broder was like someone who sat down at a table hungry, got served only Democratic talking points, swallowed them whole and quick, and is now burping them out in all directions.

I write of it because he is important, and because I think his imagery is a bit--maybe the polite word is "heightened"--not because he misunderstands the Miers drama, though he does, but perhaps for other reasons.

Briefly: Mr. Broder says Bush got "rolled" by his own supporters in the Miers fiasco. But he did not. He got defeated by them. He made a bad choice, and they resisted. The White House fought back; conservative thinkers fought back even harder; Republican senators did not back the White House; the White House retreated, rethought and renominated.

This is not a scandal; it's a story--and a surprising one in ways Mr. Broder doesn't understand. The story is that the president didn't dig in. He was, for once, supple. He rolled with the punches. That's the "rolling" that occurred. And it's not a disaster, it's promising.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alito; broder; bush43; harrietmiers; judgealito; miers; noonan; peggynoonan; samalito; samuelalito; scotus
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1 posted on 11/02/2005 11:05:06 PM PST by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

Peggy, Peggy, Peggy, please spare the old Broder. :-)

She is a classic, and the absolute best writer.

There, I prove myself not to be a sexist.


2 posted on 11/02/2005 11:09:33 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: RWR8189
Peggy suggests that Broder's stridency is a result of the necessity of opinion brokers to break through the stridency present in the New Media. I disagree. A well-written, professional composition always rises above the swill. Broder is strident here because he hasn't a clue as to what actually just happened.

Most Dems are so used to an adolescent assumption of the indispensability of party solidarity that they don't understand that Republicans can disagree with their President and the party won't fall apart. Democrats could and should do the same but they don't, and it's cost them.

Personally I agree with Noonan that the withdrawal of Meiers and the nomination of Alito tend to strengthen Bush, not weaken him. More than that, it is a fascinating view of an exercise of representative government that makes the study of American politics so very compelling. A sitting incumbent President just had his will successfully opposed in a matter that did not involve direct election, and responded in the manner we see before us. The mechanism here is so subtle that it makes the machinations of parliamentary politics seem crude by comparison. And successful, IMHO, because I think Alito's in.

3 posted on 11/02/2005 11:31:21 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: RWR8189
With most of the thinking people in America--most of those who respond to and have thoughts on what is happening politically--on the Internet, there is a great deal of discussion on all issues. The barbaric yawp is all over the place and it's colorful, sharp and funny, sometimes dumb and sometimes rather dark and disturbed. The Internet is quick as mercury and anonymous if you want it to be. People post things they wouldn't necessarily want their names on; they say things they wouldn't necessarily want to defend to their colleagues, friends and neighbors.

That people sometimes do this on impulse, after perhaps the third Grey Goose, leads to and I think encourages a certain polarity in our discourse. It leads to heightened drama, heightened language and extreme thinking. Unpondered thoughts are put forward in unmediated language. Fine--this is all part of the fun--but it is not without implications.

New advertising line: "Grey Goose -- we polarize the Internet".

4 posted on 11/03/2005 12:04:26 AM PST by AZLiberty (Winning isn't everything -- it's also about humiliating your opponent.)
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To: Billthedrill

Broder's own frustration is obvious.


5 posted on 11/03/2005 12:11:09 AM PST by eric_da_grate (r)
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To: AZLiberty
OK, I'll bite, what is a Grey Goose?
6 posted on 11/03/2005 12:15:02 AM PST by carumba
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To: carumba

Booze -- and not cheap booze.


7 posted on 11/03/2005 12:20:12 AM PST by Steve_Stifler
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To: RWR8189

But if Bush hadn't listened to his base he would be accused of willful stubborness. Whatever.

The only principle is this: Whatever Bush does is wrong. Period. By definition. And we-the-Democrats will explain how it is wrong in this particular case (as we will in every particular case).

Don't we want flexibility in our leaders? The ability to realize and admit mistakes? That's what Bush did here and it's being spun as "getting rolled".


8 posted on 11/03/2005 1:28:53 AM PST by samtheman
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Yeah and tactical flexibility is mistaken for a weakness of principle. That's what the Left doesn't get - we stick to our beliefs even when we know we could be dead-wrong. They're the ones as changeable as the weather. Why do we keep socializing with them?

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We're Know We're Dead Wrong.")

9 posted on 11/03/2005 1:31:44 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I remember last year when some of the rats tried to turn the flip-flop charge on Bush. They gave up fast.


10 posted on 11/03/2005 1:36:52 AM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman
Yeah. Most of the Democrats were for the war. Denny Crane observed, Hillary Clinton voted for it. John Kerry voted for it. And he knocked Alan Shore down a peg or two by declaring its unpatriotic to sue the army in a time of war. It borders on treason. I have to reconsider the joke about hanging all the lawyers. He's really grown on me.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We're Know We're Dead Wrong.")

11 posted on 11/03/2005 1:41:25 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Billthedrill

I agree with you, but my problem with the so-called "right-wingers" is that they say they want the original intent of the Constitution to be judged, and then go off and tell Bush he cannot do exactly that! If Miers stunk as a candidate, she would lose in a vote. That is what the Constitution calls for!


12 posted on 11/03/2005 3:41:16 AM PST by gr8eman (Idiots are idiots because they are too stupid to know that they are idiots.)
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To: RWR8189

Bump


13 posted on 11/03/2005 3:46:42 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: RWR8189

David Broder - The man who wrote the column "Don't be too tough on Rosti" - defending thief and crook Dem Rep. Rostenkowski.


14 posted on 11/03/2005 4:05:43 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: carumba
OK, I'll bite, what is a Grey Goose?

To be more specific than booze, it's vodka. Not cheap at all and used largely in martinis. I'm not sure why when a bar stocked with Grey Goose should have Bombay.

15 posted on 11/03/2005 4:07:20 AM PST by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: indianrightwinger

"There, I prove myself not to be a sexist."

Yes, but you sound kind of elitist to me. :-)


16 posted on 11/03/2005 5:12:09 AM PST by PatriotGirl827 (There are no short cuts to any place worth going.)
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To: RWR8189
Mr. Broder was like someone who sat down at a table hungry, got served only Democratic talking points, swallowed them whole and quick, and is now burping them out in all directions.

I love it!

17 posted on 11/03/2005 5:15:58 AM PST by workerbee (A person's a person no matter how small.)
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To: Desdemona
I'm not sure why when a bar stocked with Grey Goose should have Bombay.

At the risk of getting off the topic of the thread, I can think of a couple of reasons.

1. Bombay is gin; Grey Goose is vodka. Martinis -- real martinis -- are made with gin.

2. Grey Goose is made in France. Consequently, I haven't tasted it in three years. As I recall, it was unremarkable, as vodka (in my opinion) tends to be.

18 posted on 11/03/2005 5:40:08 AM PST by southernnorthcarolina ("Shut up," he explained.)
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To: Desdemona
I'm not sure why when a bar stocked with Grey Goose should have Bombay.

Grey Goose is good but overrated. I'm a Hanger One man myself, although I've only seen it at liquor stores, not bars.

19 posted on 11/03/2005 5:45:35 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The right to bear weapons is the right to be free." A. E. Van Vogt)
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To: Desdemona

Because Grey Goose is vodka (French) and Bombay is gin (English). Apples and oranges.


20 posted on 11/03/2005 5:54:45 AM PST by T. Rustin Noone ((Computers allow us to make mistakes faster than any invention except tequila and handguns))
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