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President Hosts Iftaar Dinner (Text of speech)
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Posted on 10/18/2005 7:30:39 AM PDT by Millee

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To: F15Eagle
This may sound strange, but I for one do applaud the Koran in the White House library. I wish the President would read it and the Hadith so that he would finally understand that Islam is not a religion of peace, but as it is spelled out in the Koran, it is a religion of conquest and death.

004.097 “Verily, when angels take the souls of those who die wronging themselves (by staying home), they say: ‘In what (plight or engagement) were you?’ They reply: ‘Weak on the earth.’ They say: ‘Was not the earth spacious enough for you to move?’ Such men will find their abode in Hell, an evil resort

Here you see in the Koran that a Muslim that does not fight goes to hell. How much clearer must it get to understand that Islam is not a religion of Peace, but of conquest.

61 posted on 10/18/2005 10:57:01 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: astounded
I disagree...

Bernard Lewis is one of the chief advisors to the President on Islam.

The President knows exactly what we are facing...

62 posted on 10/18/2005 11:02:07 PM PDT by carton253 (Never take counsel of your fears.)
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To: CyberAnt

Jesus dined with sinners and tax collectors to minister to them, not validate their lifestyle and tell them they're a-ok.

And I didn't ever say that he was giving up his Christianity. I question it's very foundation, since he can't seem to tell the difference between Islam and Christianity, stating that we all worship the same God. That's Universalism, and certainly not Biblical Christianity.


64 posted on 10/19/2005 5:10:02 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Heart of my own heart, whatever befall")
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To: carton253

If the President knows what we face, is he just playing some sort of political game with the muslims? Why does Tony Blair state clearly and forcefully what the situation is, but GWB does not? Could it be that England, indeed all of Europe, is in real danger of being overrun by the muslims in the next 10-15 years and taken without further violence through the political process? Perhaps Mr. Blair believes it necessary to state such clearly in the hopes of arousing England.


65 posted on 10/19/2005 5:26:34 AM PDT by astounded (We don't need no stinkin' rules of engagement...)
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To: NRA2BFree

"Saul said to Samuel, "I have sinned, for I have transgressed the commandment of the LORD and your words, because I feared the people and obeyed their voice."

~ 1 Sam 15v24

He feared the people and their reaction/desires over God's.


66 posted on 10/19/2005 5:32:47 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Heart of my own heart, whatever befall")
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To: Salem; F15Eagle; American in Israel; ItsOurTimeNow

http://watch.org/showart.php3?idx=72639&rtn=/index.html&showsubj=1&mcat=1
By Bill Wilson, KIN Senior Analyst

WASH—KIN—Oct 19— President George W. Bush has terribly misspoken about the true word of God and is likely to experience consequences in response to his errant remarks and beliefs that were pronounced publicly at the fifth annual Ramadan Banquet held in the State Dining Room at the White House.

Some quotes of note: “We must also firmly oppose all who commit evil in God's name.”…” I have great confidence in the future of this nation, and in the future of the Muslim world.”…” As we celebrate this special Iftaar, we renew the ties of friendship that bind all those who trace their faith back to God's call on Abraham.”…” Ramadan is the holiest time of the Muslim year. According to Islamic teaching, this month commemorates the revelation of God's word to the Prophet Muhammad in the form of the Koran. For more than a billion Muslims, Ramadan is a time of heartfelt prayer and togetherness. It is a time of fasting and personal sacrifice. It's a time to give thanks for God's blessings through works of charity.”

These were not the words of an Islamic cleric, but rather the words of the President of the United States as he welcomed Muslim leaders to the White House for his fifth annual Ramadan Banquet in the State Dining Room. The President initiated the “Iftaar” to foster better relations between Americans and Islam after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. It has become a tradition at the White House.

To the poltically correct this is a wonderful ecumenical, inter-faith outreach, but, Biblically it is a form of abomination in the very least, if not blasphemy. The President has made extraordinarily false claims equating the god of Islam with the one true God as he receives Islam rather than being salt and light to it.

The President has terribly misspoken. Allah and Jehovah are not the same. Muhammad, did not receive a “revelation of God’s word,” as was so aptly put by the President. Muhammad’s so-called revelation came thousands of years after God’s Biblical revelations and hundreds of years after Christ. Muhammad made up Allah and wrote a book designed not to foster friendship, but rather to continue enmity between Jews and Arabs. Muhmmad has perpetrated the creulist hoax upon millions of people—they believe in a non-existant god that will only result in the eternity of hell. That any Christian, let alone a Christian President dare claim Muhammad received a revelation from “God” is bordering heresey.

There is no other God than Jehovah. In Exodus 20:3, God commanded, “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” And in Ezekiel 3:18, God says, “When I say unto the wicked, You shall surely die; and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at your hand.”

The President is ignoring the word of God to patronize a false religion when he professes to know the truth, and the blood shall be on his hand. These are very dangerous proclamations made by the President because they not only reflect upon him, but also upon the nation he leads.



67 posted on 10/19/2005 9:54:49 AM PDT by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3)
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To: F15Eagle; Esther Ruth

Amen - you're absolutely correct.

Thank you too, Esther, for posting that article.


71 posted on 10/19/2005 10:32:30 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Heart of my own heart, whatever befall")
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To: Sir Gawain

Just another example of the MSM taking the President's words out of context in order to fill their liberal aganda.


73 posted on 10/19/2005 10:57:35 AM PDT by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: F15Eagle

Matt 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall SEE all these things, KNOW that it is NEAR, even at the doors.

Mark 13:29 So ye in like manner, when ye shall SEE these things come to pass, KNOW that it is nigh, even at the doors.

Luke 21:31 So likewise ye, when ye SEE these things come to pass, KNOW ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.


75 posted on 10/19/2005 11:06:27 AM PDT by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3 Genesis 12:1-3)
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To: Esther Ruth

Let the President explain the holy ending of Ramadan, the festival of Eid. It is the call to slaughter the Jews and the Christians to end the world.

In Jordan they slaughter goats and hang the parts around the buildings in the sun. Gets a bit smelly after the first couple of days.


77 posted on 10/19/2005 1:44:45 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

But .. you're forgetting his religious upbringing. Some of the old time religions did believe in universalism.

But, putting that aside, you're forgetting that Ishmael (the father of the Arab nations), was fathered by Abraham - who also fathered Isaac. If you look in Genesis 21:10 - Wherefore she [Sarah] said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.
11. And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son.
12. And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
13. And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.
14. And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba.
15. And the water was spent in the bottle, and she cast the child under one of the shrubs.
16. And she went, and sat her down over against him a good way off, as it were a bowshot: for she said, Let me not see the death of the child. And she sat over against him, and lift up her voice, and wept.
17. And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is.
18. Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation.

So there you have GOD's word on it. That Islam has gone a different way and chosen a horrible type of religion - imposed on them by Mohammed - I'm quite sure the President is well aware of the difference.

And .. I might add .. just because Bush doesn't do things the way YOU think they ought to be done .. well .. who the heck are you to judge the president anyway. There are Islamic people who are citizens - and the President treats them as such. Was there anybody at that dinner who was plotting to kill us .. I doubt it. The President has done his best to sort out those who preach hate.

If you're looking for perfection, you won't find it .. because NOBODY is perfect; except you of course.


78 posted on 10/19/2005 3:22:21 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: Canadian Outrage

I don't recall saying I expected any Islamic person to change to Christianity .. so I'M NOT DECEIVED!

And .. if you're going to accuse me of something, you better be quoting my statement before your throwing bombs.


79 posted on 10/19/2005 3:36:40 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: American in Israel
"Very well put. Only thing I might point out is that the Islamics are not trying to escape Islam, as they are bringing it with them. They are not here to assimilate, but to conquer."

True, and a good majority; still, there are some who—whether "good" Muslims or not—who are here to work and believe in the America way of life.

When I wrote that, I had in mind one client of mine who owns a little convenience store that isn't doing to well. The neighborhood is real depressed economically.

He's an Indian Muslim, has family in India which is affluent, but doesn't want to live there because of the corruption in the way they do business.

We've discussed religion, Christianity, and Islam. He was always very polite; kind of standing there with an uncomfortable grin which projects that you really aren't getting across to them and they are being polite.

A jihadi? No. A "moderate" Muslim. Yes, in the context of Daniel Pipe's and other secular thinkers' positions.

Bottom line, spiritually lost and in need of the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit to the truth of the Gospel.

But while qualified ministers of the Gospel to the Muslim community continue to be in such short supply, Islam will continue to advance within the dark, spiritual vacuum which exemplifies our times.

80 posted on 10/19/2005 6:49:34 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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