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NEVADA DESERT: Computers, start your engines; Stanford team apparent winners in robot car race
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | October 9th, 2005 | Tom Abate

Posted on 10/09/2005 11:52:52 AM PDT by Shuttle Shucker

"Stanford engineers steered the world toward a new era of driverless vehicles Saturday when their robotic Volkswagen SUV was the first to cross the finish line after a 132-mile race across the Nevada desert...The best showing last year was turned in by a Carnegie Mellon robo-Hummer nicknamed Sandstorm, which went just 7.4 miles in that 142-mile course before it strayed off the road and spun its wheels until the rubber burned. Yet even that ignoble finish fired the imaginations of inventors and hobbyists, who responded in even greater numbers to DARPA's 2005 challenge. In contrast to the 15 teams that raced robots last year, 195 teams applied for starting positions in this year's race. Carnegie Mellon re-entered Sandstorm and a second Hummer, called Highlander. DARPA let 43 teams compete in elimination trials that preceded the race and thinned the field down to the 23 driverless vehicles that began Saturday's race."

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KEYWORDS: carnegiemellon; darpa; dod; engineers; grandchallenge; invention; nasa; procurement; space; stanford; winners
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In the wake of how DARPA's Grand Challenge has become a roaring success this weekend, how can NASA's competitive prizes:

http://exploration.nasa.gov/centennialchallenge/cc_challenges.html

remain so comparatively miniscule, and practically devoid of launch-related opportunities?

1 posted on 10/09/2005 11:52:54 AM PDT by Shuttle Shucker
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To: Shuttle Shucker

ANSWER: The sponsorship & newsleak-craving space media
continues to ignore the story & the scandal, while
pork barrelers on the Hill keep plundering our treasury. But with retiring baby boomers on the
horizon, and our record high national debt that has
already grown by 40% over the past 5 years:

http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm

...

"The people have the government that they deserve."
-Benjamin Franklin


2 posted on 10/09/2005 11:54:07 AM PDT by Shuttle Shucker (At $600 million per flight, 25 times more than what a Soyuz costs, ain't it a bargain?)
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To: KevinDavis; anymouse

ping


3 posted on 10/09/2005 11:54:43 AM PDT by Shuttle Shucker (At $600 million per flight, 25 times more than what a Soyuz costs, ain't it a bargain?)
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To: Shuttle Shucker

If our economic future were featured on "South Park", it would be named Kenny. We are blissfully headed to the abyss.


4 posted on 10/09/2005 11:58:29 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm really BagdadBob under the witness protection program.)
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To: BipolarBob

But what if we make the government procure everything through competitive prizes from now on? Wouldn't that inspire kids to fall in love with math & science again, while yielding major economic breakthroughs? DARPA has shown the way...


5 posted on 10/09/2005 12:01:08 PM PDT by Shuttle Shucker (At $600 million per flight, 25 times more than what a Soyuz costs, ain't it a bargain?)
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To: Shuttle Shucker

If everybody drives a robocar, and there is a car wreck, whom do we sue?


6 posted on 10/09/2005 12:03:23 PM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: BipolarBob

I don't literally mean the gummint should procure literally "everything" through genuinely competitive prizes, but NASA's a fine (wasteful) example of how it could come close to it in some respects...


7 posted on 10/09/2005 12:04:34 PM PDT by Shuttle Shucker (At $600 million per flight, 25 times more than what a Soyuz costs, ain't it a bargain?)
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To: wyattearp

I guess the manufacturer, and those involved with maintenance, as well as anyone who may have interfered with their proper functioning.


8 posted on 10/09/2005 12:05:24 PM PDT by Shuttle Shucker (At $600 million per flight, 25 times more than what a Soyuz costs, ain't it a bargain?)
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To: Shuttle Shucker

Might not be a bad idea if restricted to unclassified R&D type of work.


9 posted on 10/09/2005 12:05:52 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Corporatism is not conservatism)
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To: thoughtomator

The question is: how can we make this happen before folks forget about this DARPA breakthrough? The bureaucrats prefer getting to pick winners, as it's more lucrative for them to do so than to simply offer competitive prizes with our hard-earned tax dollars.


10 posted on 10/09/2005 12:07:04 PM PDT by Shuttle Shucker (At $600 million per flight, 25 times more than what a Soyuz costs, ain't it a bargain?)
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To: Shuttle Shucker

Good words. Burt Rutan fan bump!!


11 posted on 10/09/2005 12:07:28 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Relying on the MSM for news is like using suppositories for recreational purposes.)
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To: Shuttle Shucker
In the wake of how DARPA's Grand Challenge has become a roaring success this weekend, how can NASA's competitive prizes … remain so comparatively miniscule, and practically devoid of launch-related opportunities?

<obviousness>
'Cause rolling-around on the ground costs a lot less than trying to make orbit?
</obviousness>

12 posted on 10/09/2005 12:07:41 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: Shuttle Shucker

Those who make their living as truckers....take note. It might take a specialized lane and specialized roads, but robots don't require health insurance and paid vacations.


13 posted on 10/09/2005 12:07:45 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Shuttle Shucker

The bigger question is whether we really have any input at all.


14 posted on 10/09/2005 12:08:17 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Corporatism is not conservatism)
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To: Shuttle Shucker

Your thread title doesn't contain a single word from the article's original title.


15 posted on 10/09/2005 12:10:19 PM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: thoughtomator

We DO have input. These prizes emerged because we made it too costly, prestige-wise, for the bureaucrats NOT to offer them. And bureaucrats here in Washington NEED prestige to justify the salary increases and other perks that they think they deserve.

DARPA made this race so challenging because many feds wanted contestants (and the potential paradigm shift) to fail. But Burt Rutan helped inspire prizes contestants and the prizes approach achieved what years of DARPA contracts couldn't. Now it's up to us...


16 posted on 10/09/2005 12:12:13 PM PDT by Shuttle Shucker (At $600 million per flight, 25 times more than what a Soyuz costs, ain't it a bargain?)
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To: NautiNurse

Somehow this title just doesn't do the scandal justice:

NEVADA DESERT
Computers, start your engines
Stanford team apparent winners in robot car race


17 posted on 10/09/2005 12:13:10 PM PDT by Shuttle Shucker (At $600 million per flight, 25 times more than what a Soyuz costs, ain't it a bargain?)
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Click dat pic


18 posted on 10/09/2005 12:13:36 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Keeping an eye on the Sidebeer Moderator)
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To: Shuttle Shucker
Somehow this title just doesn't do the scandal justice:

Scandal? I see nothing in the story about any scandal.

19 posted on 10/09/2005 12:21:35 PM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: BipolarBob

Now that was funny !....true but still funny.


20 posted on 10/09/2005 12:27:52 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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