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Biased CBS Poll Sample Oversamples Democrats and Liberals who claim to be Independent
cbsnews.com ^ | September 9, 2005

Posted on 09/09/2005 4:58:08 PM PDT by new yorker 77

This was in the LEARN MORE section on Page One of this Poll on the CBS website here:(http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/08/opinion/polls/main824591.shtml).

I clicked on that to get to another page which showed this - SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE WEB PAGE TO FIND THIS BURIED INFO.

Total Respondents - 725

REPUBLICANS - 209 DEMOCRATS - 249 INDEPENDENTS - 267

REPUBLICANS - 28.8% DEMOCRATS - 34.3% INDEPENDENTS - 36.8%

This poll was conducted among a nationwide random sample of 725 adults, interviewed by telephone September 6-7, 2005. The error due to sampling for results based on the entire sample could be plus or minus four percentage points. (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/08/opinion/polls/main824591_page4.shtml)


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cnn; deceit; liberalmedia; poll
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Media Bias at work.

A FACE VALUE OVERSAMPLE OF DEMOCRATS OF 6 POINTS.

I LAUGH.

FYI: CBS can hide even a higher oversample of Democrats in the "Independent" column.

Also, it is a garbage sample of 'national adults'.

1 posted on 09/09/2005 4:58:09 PM PDT by new yorker 77
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To: new yorker 77

Total Respondents - 725

REPUBLICANS - 209

DEMOCRATS - 249

INDEPENDENTS - 267


REPUBLICANS - 28.8%

DEMOCRATS - 34.3%

INDEPENDENTS - 36.8%

LAUGHABLE.


2 posted on 09/09/2005 5:01:27 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: new yorker 77

I believe for last years election, Repubs and Dims were evenly split at about 37% (with Independents making up the rest). Most of these polls are worthless. Unfortunately, no one ever explains the shortcomings. The good news is that this helps to contribute to the misunderestimation of the Pres.


3 posted on 09/09/2005 5:01:48 PM PDT by frankjr
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To: new yorker 77

The people who claim any validity for these idiotic polls don't know the first thing about mathematical statistics. I laugh every time I see the plus/minus 3 percent or whatever. It's the "sauce" they all have to apply to try and make up for all the things they don't know accurately that makes the entire activity so much nonsense. The only reason the MSM polls today is to create a story for the next 24/7 news cycle. And they purposely slant each and every poll to get the result they have already written their story around. It's all total BS.


4 posted on 09/09/2005 5:02:17 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: frankjr
I agree.

Still, this propaganda needs to be exposed for what it is.

It is Liberal Propaganda that is used to justify news coverage.

The FAKE POLL is a cover for liberal news to go where they go. It is also used to trap Republicans who frequent biased media outlets.

True, the new media squashes this.

I just believe I need to do my part.

I am tempted to start a website that does not just post polls, but deconstructs them.
5 posted on 09/09/2005 5:05:05 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: Cautor
. It's all total BS.

But it is fun to watch because Hysteric Leftist base their whole reality on polls. So when the polling came out on the banSheehan, all the Dinasour Media hyperbole about the "Rosa Parks" of the Anti-war movement just started dieing away. Fun to watch their heads explode when gas prices come down and Bush's numbers go up

6 posted on 09/09/2005 5:06:11 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Professional Journalism- the Buggy Whip makers of the 21st century)
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To: new yorker 77

independents aren't. they're just democrats that don't have the guts to admit to the stupidity of their decisions.


7 posted on 09/09/2005 5:06:18 PM PDT by pipecorp (Let's have a CRUSADE! , the muslims have already started. 1600 replies and not a single post!)
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To: Cautor

I did in one minute what any reporter could do.

I found the sample.

I analyzed it.

In 2004,

Dem -37%
GOP -37%
Ind -26%

THIS FAKE POLL FROM CBS:

Dem -34.3% wink, wink
GOP -28.8% - 8 points less than the 2004 Election
Ind -36.8% - Hidden Dems


8 posted on 09/09/2005 5:09:37 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: new yorker 77

Since these polls continue to be a reality we have to face, I am pleased people like you take the time to debunk them for what they are. You provide a vital service. Thanks.


9 posted on 09/09/2005 5:11:29 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: Cautor
My Tagline is as True today as it was yesterday as it will be tomorrow. FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!
10 posted on 09/09/2005 5:13:17 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: new yorker 77

They can fool all the DUmmycrats all the time (their leader's do this regularly), but you are right about the rest of us. As someone said, they've gone too far on this, as on Muther Sheehan and all the rest, and there will be blowback.


11 posted on 09/09/2005 5:18:27 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: new yorker 77

What? CBS dishonest about polls? Why, how could that be? Just the other day, Dan Rather told us that CBS was the most honest network we have...


12 posted on 09/09/2005 5:21:28 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: new yorker 77

Independents, could that be like the "other" on C-Span call in line? S\


13 posted on 09/09/2005 5:24:24 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: new yorker 77

It truly is THE SAMPLE STUPID!!

BTW: Have you had a chance to review the sample for today's BOGUS AP/Ipsos Reid poll? [I haven't which is why I'm asking you.]


14 posted on 09/09/2005 5:25:18 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: new yorker 77

WE ALL LIE...SOME JUST DO IT BETTER


15 posted on 09/09/2005 5:26:43 PM PDT by skaterboy (Thank u for caring so much sweet one)
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To: DrDeb

I posted those results in a previous post.

Notice the fine print in that one.

They show Dem -48%, GOP -42% sample.

When you read the tiny print, you find out that half the sample was polled at the end about party affiliation. (THIS IS WHEN THEY ARE MOST HONEST)

That showed Dem -51%, GOP -42%.

Such liberal media bias will not be hidden here.


16 posted on 09/09/2005 5:28:24 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: EagleUSA
What? CBS dishonest about polls? Why, how could that be? Just the other day, Dan Rather told us that CBS was the most honest network we have...

That is like saying they are the most truthful member of the liars club.


17 posted on 09/09/2005 5:32:00 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: new yorker 77

Independant = Embarrased Democrat


18 posted on 09/09/2005 5:34:09 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: new yorker 77

Maybe someone should alert the media that :
A poll has never nominated a Supreme Court Justice.
A poll has never reversed the results of a presidential election.
George Bush is POTUS for another three years and 4 months.


19 posted on 09/09/2005 5:34:46 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: new yorker 77

The phrase "biased CBS" is redundant. CBS is synonymous to bias.


20 posted on 09/09/2005 5:38:21 PM PDT by citizencon
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