Katrina Live Thread XII

Various ^ | 31 August 2005 | Various

[NautiNurse]

President Bush: "We are dealing with one of the worst national disasters in our nation's history." Push has appropriated vast federal resources to assist with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

78,000 people are currently in shelters. New Orleans evacuation continues. 10,000 additional National Guard troops have been called to service.

Hospitals are running low on supplies, and public health concerns include water borne disease, poor sanitation, food and drinking water contamination and shortages, mosquitoes, carbon monixide poisoning from electricity generators, lack of childcare, and the special needs of the elderly.

Links to various news, local and state government websites:

WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends (very slow load)

2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.

NOLA.com

Inside Houma Today includes shelter and volunteer updates

WLBT.com Jackson MS

WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.

Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports

Gulfport News via Topix.net

WAFB Baton Rouge

Mobile Register via al.com

Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger

Lafayette LA Daily Advertiser

Pensacola News Journal

St Bernard Local Government
Alabama Homeland Security Volunteers can sign up online
Alabama DOT
Alabama.gov
Louisiana Homeland Security
Louisiana State Police road closure info
State of Mississippi Website has traffic alerts, emergency contact numbers

Streaming Video:

WWL-TV: http://www.khou.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_khou&props=livenoad

WDSU-TV: http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38843.asx"

WPMI-TV: http://www.wpmi.com/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=113739

WKRG-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518

WTOK-TV (follow the link on the home page): http://www.wtok.com/

WJTV-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95563

Gulf Coast Storm Network (radio): http://www.stormalert.net/main.html#

Related FR Threads:

FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread

Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?

Post Hurricane Katrina IMAGES Here

Looting Begins In New Orleans

Martial Law Declared in New Orleans

Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.

www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.

Previous Threads:

Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12

[Diddle E. Squat]

Yeah, I dunno what the situation is, and won't jump to any conclusions. But as to his reputation, well, at times there has been a reason why I sometimes refer to him as 'My Favorite Drama Queen.' But he may have been right on this. Time will tell.

[JerseyHighlander]

Nothing solid. It's late, I was speculating out loud.

I started with the governor''s and mayor's responses about the 'legality' of issuing a mandatory evacuation order. Also heard how the "levee board" knew the sections that ended up breeching, were known to be on the priority list for repair/upgrade, and were using a temporary(semi-permanent) levee system.. People involved in the Orleans Levee Board corruption are prominent lawyers who are part of the Governor's legal counsel. Small state politics, long trail of people already convicted. Bush would do well making the corruption of NO a national debate, and install a special prosecutor.

This is all new to me, over the years I've researched NJ's horrible corruption and because I'm here, learned the NJ system first hand. This is the first days I've seriously looked into La.'s politics. I don't see any way the people responsible will leave paper trails.

I'll return to this in due time, and am sure we will see others exploring this line of inquiry.

[Rokke]

"Tell me the family that had the child that was suffering from sickness and dehydration were they supposed to swim their way through 5 foot of water to get to the Super Dome where they had stopped letting folks into already or how about the poor elderly woman who was brought to the bridge area by boat and could barely walk, was she supposed to swim over there."

No. I think they were much better off sitting there in the hot sun. It would have made absolutely no sense for them to carry that child the 3000 or so feet to the same Salvation Army rescue center that Shep's counterpart was reporting from. Nevermind that they wouldn't have had to swim across "moats". Nevermind that just a five minute walk away there was water, food, and medical care. They were much better off sitting on the concrete and having Shep yell stupid questions at them from above. I mean, that was some moving reporting. That was some great video. And apparently that is what really matters.

[wardaddy]

Is nothing sacred????

not to some

[Will_Zurmacht]

he said they were taking the generators....

other reports of thugs at hospitals last night too.
i assumed it was dope fiends, but dope fiends rarely reason enough to steal a generator. These are a special breed of thug, stealing the power that keeps people alive...but i must ask, where will the thugs get the diesel to run the generator?

[Krodg]

Thanks.

[Mad Dawgg]

"There's a lot of different things going on here all at the same time, but I'm seeing a blending of an entire city into one common enemy by FReepers. The acts of the riotous mobs and looters should take nothing from the plight of the refugees who are seeking escape. They aren't the same people."

Amen Sister!

[james_f_hall]

looters taking bread, water, food essentials for survival, are not looters.

imagine this. your city or town you live in is hit by a fairly large meteor. one big enough to take out most of the command and control in your town killing thousands. you have limited supply of food and water. what are you going to do? there is a riteaid down the street, no one is obviously going to run a buisness out of it for a long time, clearly. food/milk etc is gonna go to waste. You are getting hungry and your family is too. You kick down the door and take bread, chips, sandwhich meat, jerky, pop, wate etc. Are you a looter? Technically yes. Are you a thief. Probably not.

Now if you go down to the diamond shop and steal you some jewely, that is a different story. Or if you go down to electronics store and steal you a plasma tv, nope. Batteries and a radio, sure that is fine too.

Get the picture? Most of the pictures I saw were of people taking food and juice. That to me is not looting. Some people were indeed being opportunistic and taking luxury items. Those are thieves and should be dealt with as such.

Looting of food should end when proper food aid is setup and distributed.

[Howlin]

the partisan foolishness in a disaster followed by racist comments

That's a bunch of C R A P.

It's not partisan.

And it's not racist.

But your post sure sound like liberal talking points.

Try not to be such a drama queen.

[Johnny Crab]

DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW ST. BERNARD LOUISIANA FARED?

Same as they've been doing since Betsy, flooded. An earlier posted pic showed water(also seen on national tv) flowing from the St. Bernard side of the Industrial Canal levee into the Industrial Canal.

Here's a place to ask those who may know: http://www.nola.com/forums/stbtownhall/

[Diddle E. Squat]

I'm not sure of anything. Perhaps they picked up stranded families to give them some cover, or maybe just out of pity. But I did see a news story posted tonight that LA officials couldn't confirm any of the rumors of prisoners being released.

[USMA83]

From "the Interdictor" blog..live from NOLA CBD.

1235a
Outpost Crystal's Police Officer
More from the Police Officer. I'm typing as fast as i can while he talks to us:
He's only hearing bits and pieces. The people in the city are shooting at the police. They're upset that they're not getting help quickly enough. The fireman keep calling because they're under fire. He doesn't understand why the people are shooting at the rescuers. Here it is 5 days ago the Mayor said get out of town and nobody went and now they're pissed.

The National Guard was at the Hilton, but now the Hilton is evacuated. When they said the CBD was gonna get 6 feet of water, it seems like everyone evacuated.

He turned the corner onto Canal Street and it looked like a flea market. People breaking into every store, going to the neutral gound (median) and trading and selling everything.

They broke into Winn Dixie Monday Night. Do they steal food? No. Cigarettes and liquor. Store was a mess. All the meats were going to waste so the districts went over there to salvage food for officers. Many cops have been eating MREs.

The Iberville Housing Projects got pissed off because the police started to "shop" after they kicked out looters. Then they started shooting at cops. When the cops left, the looters looted everything. There's probably not a grocery left in this city.

Over 30 officers have quit over the last 3 days. Out of 160 officers in his district maybe 55 or 60 are working. He hasn't seen several since Sunday. HQ is closed, evacuated. No phones to contact them.

"HQ, be advised, we're going 10 7."

"Ok, y'all coming back on???"

"We don't know."

[Ovation_girl]

Good point. And while there may be 26,000 in the Superdome(that number sure does seem to vary from network to network), how many thousands more did we see on the interstate and other staging areas where they were dropped of after being rescued? What do you do with these people? What about the thousands more in the street wandering with no transportation and no idea where to go?
And do you penalize the children and needy on the supposed renegade bus? I am sure all they head if it was taken, was, "Hey need a ride to the Astrodome, where they will feed, bed and shower you?"

[warsaw44]

thank you. Oddly enough, the top link web cam is giving me a view inside some type of operations room. Not an outdoor view.
Burbankarl had a link for 19 different NO web cams. Two were working during the beginning of the storm. Now the entire web site just reads ' 404 error '

[Chaguito]

All these people are betting that they will survive long enough for the city to be pumped out. Then, they will simply head for Texas or Arkansas and sell the goods. IMO.

[Howlin]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and call you a racist Mofo.

You all need to stop that.

[Krodg]

Thank you.

[Arizona Carolyn]

I guess you have to have lived in a large city and gone througj one or two senseless riots to realize not everyone is redeemable. The poor truck driver who had his head bashed in at the beginning of the last Los Angeles riot lives out here and is still not 100% healed and will never be. That's not racism, that's fact.

I will help anyone, who wants to help himself and there is a lot of people who have suffered through the past few days in the superdome, and the astrodome was designated as a refugee center for those people, not some thugs that decide to steal a bus and head for Texas. They should have joined all the women, children and men in line at the Superdome waiting to be told WHAT center they would be evacuated out to.

[Jedidah]

"Last time I checked, 1 million people didn't lose their homes Sept. 11th."

Diddle, you're my friend and a fellow Texan. This is not about race or culture. This is about bad behavior.

Those folks in New York made me proud on that awful day four years ago. And they continued to help each other out. My city and culture is less like theirs than that of New Orleans, but I admired the brotherhood they exhibited.

I realize the situation in New Orleans is desperate, but roving gangs with machine guns, hijacking vehicles, shoplifing electronics when the electricity is out, beseiging hospitals and police stations -- that is simple bad behavior, and I am appalled.

I believe that if you'll think about it, you will be, too.

[Jrabbit]

I got the picture....of the looters stealing everything that wasn't bolted down. I guess they were going to eat those shoes and electronics. Silly me.