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New 9/11 Probe Could Spotlight Iraq Link
NewsMax ^ | 8/27/05 | NewsMax

Posted on 08/27/2005 2:52:10 PM PDT by wagglebee

Congressional hearings coming this fall into revelations by the military intelligence group Able Danger could spotlight other evidence overlooked by the 9/11 Commission: including a March 2001 report suggesting that Osama bin Laden was working with Iraqi intelligence operatives in Germany at a time when Mohamed Atta and two other 9/11 hijack team leaders were living in Hamburg.

On March 16, 2001, the Paris-based newspaper Al Watan al Arabi reported: "Two Iraqis were arrested in Germany, charged with spying for Baghdad. The arrests came in the wake of reports that Iraq was reorganizing the external branches of its intelligence service and that it had drawn up a plan to strike at US interests around the world through a network of alliances with extremist fundamentalist parties."

Al Watan said that German intelligence was investigating "serious indications of cooperation between Iraq and bin Ladin.* The matter was considered so important that a special team of CIA and FBI agents was sent to Germany to interrogate the two Iraqi spies."

The pre-9/11 Al Watan report continued:

"German authorities were surprised by the arrest of the two Iraqi agents and the discovery of Iraqi intelligence activities in several German cities. German authorities, acting on CIA recommendations, had been focused on monitoring the activities of Islamic groups linked to bin Ladin."

The Weekly Standard, which covered the quotes this week based on a report by Captain's Quarter's blogger Ed Morrissey," noted:

"Despite this contemporaneous report about the nature of the German arrests and the involvement of American counterintelligence officials in the investigation, not a word of the affair appears in the 9/11 Commission's final report."

This fall's hearings will undoubtedly begin with questions about why both the 9/11 Commission and the Clinton administration dismissed Able Danger's stunning identification of Mohamed Atta inside the U.S.

But any congressional investigation that doesn't explore other possible bombshells that were overlooked - including indications of possible Iraqi involvement in the 9/11 attacks - will leave even more important questions unanswered.

* Al Watan spelling


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911commission; abledanger; alqaida; atta; iraq; osamabinladen
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"Despite this contemporaneous report about the nature of the German arrests and the involvement of American counterintelligence officials in the investigation, not a word of the affair appears in the 9/11 Commission's final report."

The 9/11 Commission possibly engaged in the most treasonous cover-up in history.

1 posted on 08/27/2005 2:52:16 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: Southack

ping.


2 posted on 08/27/2005 2:53:09 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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To: denydenydeny

the evidence was 'overlooked' eh? Hmmm.


3 posted on 08/27/2005 3:01:01 PM PDT by Jazzman1
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To: wagglebee
Democrats can not afford to have an Al Qaeda/Iraq or a 9/11-Iraq link verified. Their entire objection to the war is based on that. Ever notice how belligerent they get when the slightest suggestion about Iraq and 9/11 or Al Qaeda is mentioned? This would completely blow them out of the water.
4 posted on 08/27/2005 3:01:01 PM PDT by sydbas
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To: wagglebee
Can't have the truth out now! The American people don't deserve the truth!

The Jersey Girls decided that the Dr. Rice and everyone in the Bush administration had advance knowledge and that's all they need to know.

The truth would burst their toxic bubble wouldn't it.

5 posted on 08/27/2005 3:02:07 PM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: sydbas

The left has their lie and they will do whatever is necessary to protect it.


6 posted on 08/27/2005 3:03:02 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: OldFriend

Oh no, this would never see the light of day in the "media." They can't have the American people thinking Pres. Bush and his administration were right all along.

Though why the president and his people don't talk more about this evidence is surprising to me.


7 posted on 08/27/2005 3:03:44 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: wagglebee
If the media in this country was truly for truth and fact and not for the dem party, it would have already been over for them when this story about Able Danger first broke. I just don't feel the new media is powerful enough yet that this thing as a whole will get little notice by the masses. Look at the Sandy Burgler thing and how most common folks don't know a thing about it. We are years away from getting the truth to the country as a whole. That is sad.
8 posted on 08/27/2005 3:07:27 PM PDT by In God I trust
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To: In God I trust

Sorry about the bad grammer above. It's 101 degrees here in Texas and I've been outside for hours in it. I'm fried.


9 posted on 08/27/2005 3:09:23 PM PDT by In God I trust
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To: Dog

ping


10 posted on 08/27/2005 3:09:32 PM PDT by lysie
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To: wagglebee

BUMP/marker


11 posted on 08/27/2005 3:10:42 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: wagglebee; Albion Wilde

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Even his own White House Political Advisor BILL MORRIS publically admitted on national talk radio that...

BILL CLINTON refused Free Offers from the Sudan in 1995 & 1996 to hand OSAMA bin LADEN over to us on a Silver Platter before he could hit is hard here at home =


9/11 Lifesaving Hero RICK RESCORLA, r.i.p.

http://www.RickRescorla.com

http://www.strategyzoneonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361

.


12 posted on 08/27/2005 3:13:12 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: wagglebee

why is Bush compelled to shelter the clinton administration. what does slicky have on dubya? I mean sandy burglar should be in GITMO or an undisclosed federal facility. If CLinton had this kind of information on Bush I's administration he wouldnt hesitate to prosecute. btw no one has answered me about how sandy burglar walked out with papers, that would mean some one saw him do it why didnt they say, excuse me mr burglar put the papers back and stay here while the police escorts you to jail.


Oligarchy I guess.


13 posted on 08/27/2005 3:13:42 PM PDT by Kewlhand`tek (What the hell was that? I hope it was outgoing!)
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To: wagglebee

More overlooked evidence.

The 9/11 Commission Report should be moved to the fiction section of the bookstores.


14 posted on 08/27/2005 3:17:17 PM PDT by FMBass (“Now that I’m sober I watch a lot of news” – Garofalo: From “Treason” by Coulter)
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To: wagglebee
I just heard a strange sound coming from the direction of Chappaqua.

Funny thing... it sounded exactly like what Tommy DeVito(Joe Pesci) uttered in ”Goodfella's"... just before he got capped.

15 posted on 08/27/2005 3:18:11 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And now, little man, I give the watch to you.”)
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To: wagglebee

"This fall's hearings will undoubtedly begin with questions about why both the 9/11 Commission and the Clinton administration dismissed Able Danger's stunning identification of Mohamed Atta inside the U.S."

So what? Others of the 19 were known to INS, FBI etc. and nothing was done. Wouldn't have mattered if Able Danger really knew about Atta (uncertain), and the FBI took the information.


16 posted on 08/27/2005 3:18:18 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: wagglebee
We've witnessed Washington covering up garbage for decades and we've rolled right along letting them continue business as usual. We all knew about the technology for campaign $ deal, got upset about it and then moved on to the impeachment. Well, that one bit us in the ass, but good. I hate to say it but the ruling class is going to come out of this with maybe a black eye and nothing more. The good of our country means absolutely nothing to these people. Bin Laden, wicked and evil as he is, saw this and acted on that knowledge. We here at FR are aware of this, but what about John Q Citizen? When you try to explain how all this came about his eyes glaze over. The MSM will not push it because they're in bed with the Dems. and they are beyond all hope. The Reps. won't push it as far as they should because they're in full CYA mode. What recourse do we really have?
17 posted on 08/27/2005 3:21:41 PM PDT by Roccus (I've been described as a cynical romantic. Also a romantic cynic.)
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To: Jazzman1

Apparently, the term "overlooked" is a euphemism for "covered up."


18 posted on 08/27/2005 3:24:06 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: sydbas

Because the Dems are afraid to touch Iraq I believe that no effort was made to investigate what the CIA knew about terrorist training camps in Iraq, especially the Zajo terrorist training camp in northern Iraq which was reported as early as 1996 to have had direct ties to Al Qaeda and the predecessor to Ansar al Islam. It was run by Islamist Kurds, and their European contact was with Barakat Yarkas, a man who was known to German investigators long before 9/11, and a person who had intimate contact with the Al Qaeda cell in Hamburg. Another person involved with the camp was Najmuddin Farah Ahmad, AKA Krekar, who resided in Norway and was another Al Qaeda operative.


19 posted on 08/27/2005 3:33:05 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: Kewlhand`tek

9/11 panel was set up with a gentlemen's agreement not to screw each other, because the GOP was not sure if GWB administration did not screw up any intel and the Dems knew Clinton administration made mistakes, but they were not sure how bad the mistakes were. In essence they agreed to go easy on each other. I think that is why Berger got a pass, but Clark's book and several political shenanigans by the Demsn may have undone the gentlemen's agreement. I think the second time 9/11 is looked into by Congress, the GOP should go for the Democrat jugular.


20 posted on 08/27/2005 3:37:19 PM PDT by Fee (Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: sydbas; Coop; Common Tator; Congressman Billybob; WOSG; Blurblogger; Dog; dead; Howlin; ...
"Democrats can not afford to have an Al Qaeda/Iraq or a 9/11-Iraq link verified. Their entire objection to the war is based on that. Ever notice how belligerent they get when the slightest suggestion about Iraq and 9/11 or Al Qaeda is mentioned? This would completely blow them out of the water."

On the contrary. If Democrats give up their current strategy of complete capitulation to the terrorists, it would **save** the Democratic Party from losing every national election for decades to come.

Should the Democrats ever have an "Ah Ha!" moment that causes them to say that open war is justified and demanded, the current political equation will turn on a dime.

Senator Kerry, Senator Kennedy, and Senator Clinton all marching in to a press conference to demand full scale war due to Iraq's (and others) proven links to 9/11 would change national politics in a heartbeat.

Traditionally, the Left always advocates violence eventually, anyway (think: Pol Pot, Stalin, Lenin, Castro, Che Gueverra, Kim Il Sung, etc.). Their anti-war posturing nonsense is merely due to vestigial political baggage from long-duped political converts...an act at best, believed by few of their own diehards (certainly not by the Black Bloc, the anarchists, Animal Liberation Front, Weather Underground, Black Panthers, ACT UP, or Earth First).

At some point Democrats may get so tired of losing elections that they re-visit the politics of their uber-hero FDR, who certainly didn't eschew violence. When/if that point is reached, the Left's Cindy Sheehan-style useful idiots will cease being useful and will be cut loose or devoured by the Left's new war dogs.

21 posted on 08/27/2005 3:47:45 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: denydenydeny; American in Israel; TigerLikesRooster; MadIvan; bourbon; katman; mikeb704; ...

c#21


22 posted on 08/27/2005 3:57:52 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: TNCMAXQ
Though why the president and his people don't talk more about this evidence is surprising to me.

The President has always said that there was no proven connection between Iraq and 9/11, which is also stated in the 9/11 Commission report. Although the Left has a hard time admitting it, the 9/11 Commission confirmed that there were AQ/Iraqi intelligence connections, albeit non-operational ones.

If it could be proved that AQ and Iraqi intelligence planned 9/11 together, the Dems would probably say. "Yeah, but Bush didn't know that when he invaded Iraq."

23 posted on 08/27/2005 4:04:58 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Bahbah; leadpenny; malia; YaYa123; McGruff

Ping for later.


24 posted on 08/27/2005 4:09:27 PM PDT by Springman
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To: wagglebee

Slick Willie sees his legacy, and it's him getting his jollies in the Oval Office while the terrorists were planning 9/11. He has to be an unhappy camper right now.

But maybe he doesn't care. Hillary's off doing her thing with whoever, and his neighbor in Chappaqua is standing, er, kneeling in for Monica.


25 posted on 08/27/2005 4:19:00 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: wagglebee

I wonder if the lefties who whine

Iraq had nothing to do with 911

will shut up now.


26 posted on 08/27/2005 4:22:49 PM PDT by zendari
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To: wagglebee

bump


27 posted on 08/27/2005 4:25:51 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: Southack
You offer a logical explanation as to why the Democrat Party should turn on a dime if this info comes out. Well, it is out now in the blogosphere, but with Senator Spector trying to take his hearing before Representative Weldon can take his, this will become public shortly.

There's nothing wrong with your logic. Only with your assumption that sheer necessity will make the Democrats change. The civics book assumption is that all parties exist for the purpose of winning the next election. But, if that were true, the Democrats would never have nominated McGovern, Dukakis, and Carter (the second time). But they did, and lost ignominiously.

Internal dynamics sometimes cause parties to run off a cliff, even when some of the cows see it coming and bleat in advance. In addition to this defect, the other is the Clinton factor. At present, Clinton (her) owns the Democrat Party and its nomination. Revelations that Clinton (him) deliberately squashed investigations that might have prevented 9/11 will also savage her. So, as long as she's in control, the lies must and will continue.

When and if the Democrats dumb and denounce both of the Clintons, your scenario might work out. Until then, it is logical but will not happen.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "This is a Court. Tuck in Your Shirt."

28 posted on 08/27/2005 4:57:32 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (I'm on the road, now. Contact me at John_Armor@aya.edu.net.)
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To: Southack

Hey hey hey!


29 posted on 08/27/2005 5:31:49 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: Peach

Lookie here.


30 posted on 08/27/2005 5:33:13 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: wagglebee

The Warren Report was right up there.


31 posted on 08/27/2005 5:37:37 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: MizSterious
Apparently, the term "overlooked" is a euphemism for "covered up."

LOL....... and Sandy Berger is just "a messy fellow".

32 posted on 08/27/2005 5:41:18 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: wagglebee

I've been predicting that another awful story about the Clintons would slither out.


33 posted on 08/27/2005 5:55:03 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Shermy
I respectfully disagree. Had Atta and company been under surveillance, questioned, or otherwise tipped off that the FBI were interested in them...it may...however unlikely...have changed the course of their plans.

Remember the 9/11 special on N.G. said Osama wanted them to move more quickly with the plan for fear they may have been uncovered? Apparently Able Danger had uncovered them...just not the plan.

Makes me wonder if Osama got a tip from somewhere thus bringing on his concern and rush to move up the attacks by 5 weeks.

Just more we need to find out in the hearings.
JEDI.
34 posted on 08/27/2005 5:56:00 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: TNCMAXQ
Oh no, this would never see the light of day in the "media."

We're the media now.

35 posted on 08/27/2005 6:00:00 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: TNCMAXQ
Oh no, this would never see the light of day in the "media."

We're the media now.

36 posted on 08/27/2005 6:00:14 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: TNCMAXQ
Oh no, this would never see the light of day in the "media."

We're the media now.

37 posted on 08/27/2005 6:00:21 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Uncle Vlad

3 X ?


38 posted on 08/27/2005 6:13:11 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: TNCMAXQ
Though why the president and his people don't talk more about this evidence is surprising to me.

Let's face it--the Bush Administration rates a D, at best, for communication with the public. I can only hope their lack of communication is related to a desire to protect classified information or sources.

39 posted on 08/27/2005 6:48:13 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Washington State--Land of Court-approved Voting Fraud.)
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To: wagglebee
The anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-life domestic enemies (Democratic Crime Syndicate) have more in common with terrorism than they do with any poster on this thread.

Witness them. They devalue life through their words and deeds.

40 posted on 08/27/2005 7:15:46 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: wagglebee
The anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-life domestic enemies (Democratic Crime Syndicate) have more in common with terrorism than they do with any poster on this thread.

Witness them. They devalue life through their words and deeds.

41 posted on 08/27/2005 7:16:45 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

The Able Danger story has intrigued me greatly. I've rearranged my blog and devoted a blogroll for linking Able Danger blog posts/news stories. The blog is at: http://www.qtmonster.com

And I'm very surprised and delighted today to find that The American Thinker blog has linked to my site:
http://www.americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=2951

Wow.


42 posted on 08/27/2005 7:23:11 PM PDT by vadkins
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To: vadkins

Thanks for the link(s). Good blog!


43 posted on 08/27/2005 8:01:43 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Hell, hear Clinton himself admit it!

http://www.newsmax.com/clinton2.mp3


44 posted on 08/27/2005 8:39:36 PM PDT by Carling (http://www.marriedadults.com/howarddeanscreamaudio141jq.mp3)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
Let's face it--the Bush Administration rates a D, at best, for communication with the public.

A D? Isn't that a bit high?

I can only hope their lack of communication is related to a desire to protect classified information or sources.

How hard is it to give a point-by-point synopsis on the Iraq/terror links (Salman Pak, anyone?) and the banned chemicals that have been found? The Bush administration is inept at dealing with the media. That is harsh, but that is how I feel.

45 posted on 08/27/2005 8:44:23 PM PDT by Carling (http://www.marriedadults.com/howarddeanscreamaudio141jq.mp3)
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To: wagglebee
The Iraq/911 intelligence may be an ongoing operation. A lot of Nazi/Japanese connections are just now being exposed.
46 posted on 08/27/2005 8:45:24 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Southack

Thanks for the ping.


47 posted on 08/27/2005 8:55:04 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: wagglebee

The left has their lie and they will do whatever is necessary to protect it.



That sums it up right there!


48 posted on 08/27/2005 9:35:06 PM PDT by cjmae
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To: PGalt

Tell Conyers it's a republican scandal, he dumb enough to hold 'hearings.'


49 posted on 08/27/2005 9:36:17 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Kewlhand`tek
why is Bush compelled to shelter the clinton administration. what does slicky have on dubya?


As sappy as it sounds, I think he respects the institution of the presidency too much to throw mud.
50 posted on 08/27/2005 9:38:47 PM PDT by cjmae
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