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Bush seeks terror warning integration center (Able Danger?)
Computerworld ^ | 01/29/2003 | Dan Verton

Posted on 08/10/2005 11:14:26 PM PDT by conservative in nyc

President Bush last night called for the formation of an independent terrorist-threat integration center to enhance the ability of intelligence and law enforcement agencies and the private sector to share data and respond to the threat of imminent terrorist attacks.

During his State of the Union speech, Bush said it’s imperative for the government to act quickly before future terrorist threats emerge. And while improvements in analysis and cooperation have taken place throughout the government since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Bush said, a centralized analysis center will ensure that the transformation is complete.

“Tonight, I am instructing the leaders of the FBI, the CIA, the [Department of] Homeland Security and the Department of Defense to develop a Terrorist Threat Integration Center to merge and analyze all threat information in a single location,” said Bush. “Our government must have the very best information possible, and we will use it to make sure the right people are in the right places to protect our citizens.”

This isn’t the first time that such a proposal has been put forward.

Rep. Curt Weldon, (R-Pa.), the vice chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, called for the creation of just such a center in 1999 at the height of the U.S.-led NATO air war in Kosovo. Likewise, an advisory panel on the national response to weapons of mass destruction, led by former Virginia Gov. James S. Gilmore III, also recommended the creation of such an agency.

Weldon renewed his call for the center again on Sept. 11, saying the terrorist attacks might have been prevented had the government moved on his proposal to inject commercial data mining tools into the intelligence community and integrate the dozens of classified information-sharing systems.

Weldon’s idea would have modeled the new agency on the Army’s Information Dominance Center, which is part of the Land Information Warfare Activity (LIWA), at Fort Belvoir, Va. It was there that the Army took advantage of the skills of a former CIA profiler who used commercial data mining tools to produce an eight-page biography of a close associate of former Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic. That was seven and a half more pages than the CIA was able to produce for Weldon, who led a congressional delegation to Vienna to negotiate an end to the war in Kosovo.

The U.S. Special Operations Command in Tampa, Fla., also tapped into LIWA’s data mining capabilities and with that agency’s help built a small version of the LIWA system. It then produced an entire profile of Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda terrorist organization. Through that profile, the Special Operations Command made detailed recommendations to the Clinton administration in January 2001 about which individual cells to direct action against to cripple the organization. Those recommendations were never acted upon.


“All of that activity could have prevented or helped to prevent 9/11 from ever occurring,” said Weldon, speaking in May in the House of Representatives.

"I briefed our Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge. He agreed with us, but he has not yet been able to achieve this new interagency collaborative center,” Weldon said in May. “And that is an indictment of our government that the American people deserve to be outraged over."

At a news conference announcing the release of the advisory panel’s fourth annual report last month, Gilmore said that information-sharing by government agencies “had only marginally improved.” Cultural issues were largely to blame for that modest progress, said Gilmore.

“I, for one, would rather build upon the existing structures of the [FBI],” he said. “But the commission doesn't feel that way. The commission believes that you have to have a new organization with a different culture.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; abledanger; clinton; gorelick; idc; liwa; x42
Note the date on the article - January 29, 2003. I found this article in a google search trying to find out information about the Information Dominance Center.

According to the article, the U.S. Special Operations Command and Army Information Dominance Center were using data mining techniques to provide information to President Clinton about which al-Qaeda cells to take action against. The final recommendations weren't delivered until January 2001. The al-Qaeda organizational chart (including Muhammad Atta) created before but received by Rep. Weldon after 9/11 was likely part of this effort.

1 posted on 08/10/2005 11:14:27 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

But .. "Able Danger" was formed long before Bush took office, so Bush's speech in 2003 did not have anything to do with Able Danger.


2 posted on 08/10/2005 11:18:32 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: conservative in nyc
This isn’t the first time that such a proposal has been put forward.

It isn't the first time.

I distinctly remember there was discussion of a centralized command center, revolving around the FBI.

I may be mistaken, but I think the FBI opposed it on the grounds that it would shift their resources from their other duties.

This is going to be expensive.

3 posted on 08/10/2005 11:18:59 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: conservative in nyc

Death , Dishonor, Destruction

Clintoon's 3D Legacy?

GORELICK GATE: Developing...

FR Archives Search Results for Gorelick Wall


4 posted on 08/10/2005 11:25:34 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: CyberAnt
But .. "Able Danger" was formed long before Bush took office, so Bush's speech in 2003 did not have anything to do with Able Danger.

I know that. I posted the article because it discusses what the Information Dominance Center/Special Operation Command was up to when it undertook Operation Able Danger on the behest of the CLINTON administration --- deciding which al-Qaeda cells to take out. They didn't make any final recommendations until January 2001, as President Clinton was leaving the White House.

But from the NYT and other sources, we learned that IDC/SOC wanted to turn over Atta's name to the FBI earlier than the final recommendations - in September 2000. The "it was January 2001, so we wanted to let new administration to decide what to do with al-Qaeda" line that the Clintonistas were pushing during the 9/11 Commission's hearings DIDN'T apply in September 2000. Algore was still running for President.
5 posted on 08/10/2005 11:33:02 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc
Through that profile, the Special Operations Command made detailed recommendations to the Clinton administration in January 2001 about which individual cells to direct action against to cripple the organization. Those recommendations were never acted upon.

Bush took over January 20th...

6 posted on 08/10/2005 11:35:16 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: conservative in nyc

I'd like to see Richard Clarke smeared with this.


7 posted on 08/10/2005 11:37:11 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Echo Talon

I'd bet money the Clinton people never passed that on.

And I'd bet money that Sandy Berger stole the papers that had that information in it.


8 posted on 08/10/2005 11:38:31 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

I promise I'm not following you. I remember when this came up and someone suggested a forum like Free Republic for all intelligence people to have access to to report anything and to build on it with the brain trust of all the agencies. Kind of like us.

It came up when the agent in Arizona reported someone odd taking flying lessons and his report went nowhere.


9 posted on 08/10/2005 11:51:27 PM PDT by goosie
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To: coconutt2000
Representative Weldon was trying to get a system called NOAH ("National Operations Analysis Hub") in place during 1999 and 2000. I don't think it was going to be owned by any one intelligence agency. The FBI and CIA opposed it, and it died. It was to be based on the Information Dominance Center's system.

There's more about NOAH in Representative Weldon's June 2005 House floor speech.
10 posted on 08/10/2005 11:52:28 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: CyberAnt; NormsRevenge

Jamie Gorelick/The Wall/Cover for the Clinton China connection


11 posted on 08/10/2005 11:53:41 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball." - Jack Lemmon)
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To: Howlin
I'd bet money the Clinton people never passed that on.

Probably not.

12 posted on 08/11/2005 12:01:03 AM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Howlin; Mo1
Do you remember exactly what the MSM reported Sandy Burgled?

According to the Washington Post, Berger acknowledged stealing copies of Richard Clarke's millennium plot "after action review" from early 2000. But the New York Post implied that there may have been other burgled documents. And the AP generically reported he took home "copies of documents about the government's anti-terror efforts and notes that he took on those documents".
13 posted on 08/11/2005 1:03:57 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc; cyncooper

I don't know for sure exactly what was taken .. I've read different accounts and reportings

Cyncooper is more of an expert on all the details about this case


14 posted on 08/11/2005 1:06:47 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: conservative in nyc

That link provides it all. Congressman Weldon is and has been 'right on'. Everyone needs to read his floor speech form the June.


15 posted on 08/11/2005 4:20:31 AM PDT by SueRae
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