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To: jbstrick

I like the re-use of major shuttle components. Should speed development up.

5 posted on 08/02/2005 9:03:44 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: green iguana
100 tons? That's a freak'n lot! How does that compare to the French rockets?
6 posted on 08/02/2005 9:08:33 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: green iguana

That Crew Veh looks like it's stacked on an SRB stage 1.
I see an apparent escape rocket assy on the cap.

This looks entirely ill-considered, as solids can't
be throttled or shut down, and in an emergency could
plow right into the capsule's escape assy.

Traditional laments about shutting down Saturn V
production may commence now.

NASA appears to be returning to yesteryear's designs
without applying yesteryear's safety standards.


8 posted on 08/02/2005 9:13:00 AM PDT by Boundless
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To: green iguana

I still hate the idea of using solid rocket booters to carry people. Something wrong with using power that can't be throttled.


16 posted on 08/02/2005 9:22:52 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: green iguana

Launching the crew separate from the bulk 'cargo' is a good idea. The crew rocket can forgo the solid propellant boosters. Strapping a pair of roman-candles to the side of a tank of liquid oxygen and hydrogen always seemed like a bad idea.


23 posted on 08/02/2005 9:29:59 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: green iguana
Proposal Video here
44 posted on 08/02/2005 9:57:55 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Strict Constructionist Definition=Someone who doesn't hallucinate when reading the Constitution)
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To: green iguana
Should speed development up.

What I basically heard Griffin say when he announced that this was the direction he was going was that, since all of the vehicle's components were already man rated it would cut out more than half of the time / cost of developing a new launch vehicle.

The folks at T/Space (Burt Rutan, et al) who did the architecture for Moon/Mars suggested this, except they were also proposing a scaled up launch system similar to Space Ship One for getting the crew to and from orbit. Of course it would have been built and operated by private industry. I would love that, as it would instantly create a viable private launch industry.

From the T/Space web site:

The t/Space Concept / Updated July 14, 2005
Abstract: An Earth-to-orbit system capable of transporting four crew for $20 million per flight, with development proposed to be under a fixed-price NASA contract.
Download (pdf ~ 2398 kb)
 


70 posted on 08/02/2005 10:36:01 AM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: green iguana

A capsule at the top of an SRB?

WooHoo! Continuous 10 G's to orbit. Hope the astronauts survive.


78 posted on 08/02/2005 10:49:31 AM PDT by hattend (Alaska....in a time warp all it's own!)
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To: green iguana

Plus it fills the need for both a passenger vehicle and a useful cargo hauler.

What we have in the space shuttle is akin to a six door pickup truck. It can carry people and stuff, but it isn't the best for either job. :)


89 posted on 08/02/2005 10:58:16 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: green iguana
I like the re-use of major shuttle components. Should speed development up.

Yes, it should, but a snail-like pace is already built into the timeline.

107 posted on 08/02/2005 11:15:54 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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