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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 11
Various News Outlets | 7/29/05

Posted on 07/29/2005 7:28:13 AM PDT by TexKat

Natalee Holloway is shown in this undated family photo. (AP Photo/family photo)


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; carloscharlies; deepak; disappear; everyoneschild; greta; joran; kalpoes; keystonekops; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; richwhitepretty; satish; sybil; twitty; womensissue
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To: theophilusscribe

Those are some amazing comments. Thanks for bring them here.

There's some really bad stuff going on in Aruba.


761 posted on 07/30/2005 8:18:20 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: theophilusscribe; TexKat; stlnative

RWV:

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/07/natalee_hollowa_85.html#comments

MSNBC update: Joran will be interrogated today, for sveral hours, by Dutch officials especially sent in for this case.

Landfill continues to be searched; witness seems credibleand they hope to find something here.


762 posted on 07/30/2005 8:18:26 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: truthluva

me, the code is as easy as pig latin,
where the h-e-double hockey stix is the FBI?


763 posted on 07/30/2005 8:20:46 AM PDT by bolta_lightnin (*Warning* This thread has just been haunted.)
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To: theophilusscribe

the link won't open a page for me.

is billyright having a dialog with someone or posting alone?

for me it is easier to imagine this stuff going on at the hotel under renovation next to the HI than the HI itself.


764 posted on 07/30/2005 8:21:08 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: maggief

MSNBC update: Joran will be interrogated today, for sveral hours, by Dutch officials especially sent in for this case.





Fingers crossed.


765 posted on 07/30/2005 8:22:07 AM PDT by onyx (North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Many comments on this blog, find the questions and replies by time posted.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/07/natalee_hollowa_85.html#comments


766 posted on 07/30/2005 8:23:12 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: onyx

Joran's lawyer said yesterday (and I saw him...forget which show) that his client has nothing else to say to interrogators, and will say nothing else to them, and that is why he was refusing to go with them to any interrogation sites.


767 posted on 07/30/2005 8:24:04 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: maggief

Is the FBI going to be there to participate? It's time for some good old fashion interrogation of this little snot.


768 posted on 07/30/2005 8:24:51 AM PDT by Lucky2 (Lucky2 loves the NY Yankees.)
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To: onyx

I'm reading it was also reported Beth went home for a few days.


769 posted on 07/30/2005 8:24:59 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: pamlet
Thanks for that link Deejay... I hadn't seen it and it is by FAR the most objective overview I've seen on this case..

You're most welcome. :)

770 posted on 07/30/2005 8:26:04 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Lucky2

MSNBC only reported an interrogation by Dutch officials, and that it could take several hours this afternoon.


771 posted on 07/30/2005 8:26:19 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: theophilusscribe
there is the matter of the 3 girls of Aruban families that were reported missing to the police and no one, not one cop, followed up. And anytime a reporter from Aruba Today talks to a witness, their story changes. why? Is the editor of Aruba Today doing a bunch of witness tampering? for who?

Posted by: billyright | July 30, 2005 09:30 AM

This little island is not the crime-free place they keep claiming, is it? And what about that 16 y.o. girl who last week went missing? Another victim in this "game" they play?

I hope this mess can get cleaned up somehow, and in doing so, Natalee's family can find out what happened to her.

772 posted on 07/30/2005 8:27:30 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Hand em their arse

"GRACE: If I could finish! If I could finish! Jossy Mansur described a police report in which Joran Van Der Sloot said a Kalpoe brother raped and murdered Holloway. Now, to me, that is very, very incriminating!"




The word 'maybe' somehow evaporated from what Jossy said.


773 posted on 07/30/2005 8:28:31 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: maggief

Remember, Beth has a younger son who needs to get ready for school in the fall.

Poor kid, it can't be easy for him with his mother away all this time. Maybe he's been down there some too, haven't heard a word about that though.


774 posted on 07/30/2005 8:29:35 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Hand em their arse
IMHO Grace has brought nothing but her bellowing, sarcasm, phony hairball coughing, and her tiresome smugness.

Early on I liked Grace. I had sympathy for her once I found out what happened to her fiancee. But since that time I hope that her on-air persona is not the way she is 24/7.

Grace under fire

CNN proudly describes Grace as "one of television's most respected legal analysts" and is happy to provide interested parties with a detailed account of her legal education and career, right down to her stint as a business law instructor in Georgia State University's school of business.

There is, however, one inconveniently disturbing detail on which CNN maintains a studied silence: On three occasions involving three separate cases, appellate courts have cited Grace for unethical behavior while she was a Fulton County prosecutor.

The most recent of those admonitions came last week, when a published opinion from the U.S. 11th Circuit Court of Appeals concurred with lower court findings that Grace had "played fast and loose" with her ethical duties as a prosecutor in a 1990 triple-murder case. The lower courts had admonished Grace for failing to disclose the existence of other suspects in the case and for knowingly allowing a police detective to testify falsely regarding the matter. The appeals court, however, also concurred that Grace's misconduct did not affect the outcome of the case.

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775 posted on 07/30/2005 8:29:37 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: maggief
Just to sidestep a moment. Wouldn't it be ironic if one or both of the security guards originally arrested were actually involved with Natalee's disappearance?

Weren't they guarding a resort undergoing remodeling? And remember, that past tourists in Aruba said the guards had approached them with offers to sell drugs, etc. Their reputations are not without questions.

And, Micky Johns was the only one who really talked much publicly and that was also under prodding from Greta -- haven't heard from the other one, who has been very scarce since they were released.

NOT saying this is a top theory, but hey, nothing else seems to jell.

776 posted on 07/30/2005 8:30:48 AM PDT by varina davis
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To: texasbluebell

The break will do her good.


777 posted on 07/30/2005 8:33:18 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: varina davis
An addendum: ALE has said all along that even though the men were released, they remain suspects. And ALE does seem to have a penchant for catch and release in order to conduct surveillance.
778 posted on 07/30/2005 8:33:21 AM PDT by varina davis
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To: txrangerette; Lizarde; TexKat; truthluva; Pepper777; bolta_lightnin; All

*warning* I've been thinking. What if all the Shango stuff is being thrown out to make us tired of it all, as Lizarde has been nearly there already? The Arubans think if they spin it out long enough, we'll all get tired of the kwap and return to normalcy?

I think Jossy is part of the coverup. I think that's the key Shango could be referring to. His witnesses are the herrings...?


779 posted on 07/30/2005 8:33:26 AM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: Froufrou
This makes sense to me. Here, JVDS, I'll give you the Rufi and you can have the first taste...when you finish, bring her to me...

Someone earlier had posted that PVDS has money in 12 banks. Does anyone know if this is true or not, or just another rumor? What if PVDS is the middle man?

780 posted on 07/30/2005 8:34:50 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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