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American Muslim Scholars Call Terrorism a Violation of Islamic Teaching
AP ^ | AP-ES-07-28-05 1024EDT

Posted on 07/28/2005 9:22:30 AM PDT by TheOtherOne

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To: E Rocc

More Imam will tell you this than will say it is "an internal struggle".

The majority damn well understand the violent overtones of the term.

And there are a number of Imam on staff at "Ask The Imam".


41 posted on 07/28/2005 10:02:38 AM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee

Yes, you're absolutely right. And those on the lowly third tier are subject to summary execution, if I recall. Still, wouldn't it be fun to use their own words against them?


42 posted on 07/28/2005 10:02:41 AM PDT by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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To: libs_kma

Re#38 Yep. The number is staggering and scares the h*ll out of me. We're in for a long haul and heaven forbid the left takes control of the WOT. Great handle, btw....


43 posted on 07/28/2005 10:03:05 AM PDT by eureka! (Hey Lefties: Only 3 and 1/2 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: TheOtherOne
While I am glad that they have made this move, actions still speak louder than words.

Once we start seeing a massive purge of known terrorists from the mosques, I will believe that they are serious, and not just giving lip service.

44 posted on 07/28/2005 10:03:35 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: TheOtherOne

First, as others have mentioned, it's perfectly permissible for Muslims to lie to non-Muslims to gain advantage in war, which is what I believe is the intent of this statement and others like it. Second, they always leave themselves an out, and in this case it is in the definition of "civilian". According to Islam, an unborn Israeli baby is not a civilian. And I doubt a New York office worker is a civilian by their definition, either.


45 posted on 07/28/2005 10:03:47 AM PDT by thoughtomator (frotho ergo sum)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Lipservice, nothing more... Want truth about Islam:

July 15,2005
"After London attack, cleric urges: 'Annihilate infidels' Less than a day after the terrorist bombings in London, the Palestinian Authority's official television channel broadcast a sermon calling for extermination of all non-Muslims. "Annihilate the Infidels and the Polytheists! Your [Allah's] enemies are the enemies of the religion!" said Suleiman Al-Satari in a July 8 broadcast translated by Israel-based Palestinian Media Watch, or PMW. "Allah," the cleric continued, "disperse their gathering and break up their unity, and turn on them, the evil adversities. Allah, count them and kill them to the last one, and don't leave even one." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1443850/posts


46 posted on 07/28/2005 10:06:05 AM PDT by FearNoMan
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To: TheOtherOne

My take on the initials 'CAIR' is =

Control America & Islam Rules.

This is what I believe these, so called,
allies of ours in the MUSLUM community believe.

These, so called, allies who cheered when the
Towers and Pentagon were attacked are never
going to be believed by me till they denounce
their vile Islam and it's prophet. Since this
will never happen, why would I believe anything
from those who are taught to deceive and / or
lie to the infidel. They in the religion of
Islam can kiss my rear.


47 posted on 07/28/2005 10:06:22 AM PDT by From One - Many
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To: weegee

Exactly. They have studied well how to go from murderers to victims in a few short sentences.


48 posted on 07/28/2005 10:08:34 AM PDT by Mr. Keys
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To: GAB-1955

What about Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism, and myriad other religions? They lack a central authority too. However, they do not go around blowing themselves up. The lack of central authority is only a veil to cover the excesses of Islam and is part of a deliberate effort by Newsweek editor, Fareed Zakaria (who is a fundamentalist muslim himself).


50 posted on 07/28/2005 10:09:07 AM PDT by indcons (Koran - The World's First WMD)
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To: From One - Many
My take on the initials 'CAIR' is = Control America & Islam Rules.

And an accurate take it is.

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." 

- Omar Ahmad (co-founder of CAIR)

51 posted on 07/28/2005 10:12:07 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: TheOtherOne

Ha ha, that's funny. They're banking on the fact that few "infidels" have actually read the Koran.

We have. It's quite clearly laid out for all to see.


53 posted on 07/28/2005 10:15:27 AM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: F15Eagle
Why isn't something done? Hello, U.S. Gov't?

They're too busy planning the next Ramadan dinner celebration to take notice.

54 posted on 07/28/2005 10:16:45 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: TheOtherOne
In the statement, called a fatwa, the 18-member Fiqh Council of North America wrote that people who commit terrorism in the name of Islam were "criminals, not 'martyrs.'"

Well there you have it. A fatwa from the fiqh-wads. Go back to sleep now. Nothing to worry about here.

55 posted on 07/28/2005 10:17:26 AM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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To: TheOtherOne
I think that they are beginning to see the writing on the wall. CAIR and the muslim community's inability to recognize and assimilate the founding documents of this country, including the 1st Amendment which guarantees Christians and Jews to worship as they please without jihadist interference, could likely result in fallout from the 2nd Amendment.
56 posted on 07/28/2005 10:21:50 AM PDT by markedman (Lay me down to a watery grave)
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To: indcons

Muslim "scholars"?

They know that lying to the infidel is a tenet in the koran. Where have they been in the most recent muslim outbreak of violence in the last 30 years or so? When will they stop killing Jews and Christians all over the world?

Like Sudanese Christian (who should know better than they) friends have told me: Don't believe a word Muslims say.

I don't.


58 posted on 07/28/2005 10:27:13 AM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: UnsinkableMollyBrown

For the Koran is like a pick-and-mix selection. If you want peace, you can find peaceable verses. If you want war, you can find bellicose verses. You can find verses which permit only defensive jihad, or you can find verses to justify offensive jihad.

You can find what ever you look for in the Koran. You can certainly be a terrorist and a Muslim, for sure.


59 posted on 07/28/2005 10:32:12 AM PDT by tessalu
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To: UnsinkableMollyBrown
Actually, there are numerous passages that call for helping your neighbors and charitable stuff, etc......so long as your neighbors are muslim.

...but nothing excuses: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

60 posted on 07/28/2005 10:33:56 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment...cut in half during the Clinton years....Nec Aspera Terrent!!!)
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