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London bomb suspect linked to Ore. terror camp (terrorists on the left coast)
kgw.com ^ | Wednesday, July 20, 2005 | By kgw.com, NBC and CNN Staff (Spaltter)

Posted on 07/20/2005 6:41:28 PM PDT by Splatter

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Investigators probing the London terror bombings are focusing on an elusive British Muslim suspect who is connected to a previous plot to set up a terrorist training camp in rural southern Oregon, according to U.S. counterterrorism officials.

Officials told both NBC News and CNN Wednesday that Haroon Rashid Aswat, believed to be a mastermind of the London bombings, is the same British-born Muslim of Indian descent who scouted a Bly, Oregon ranch to set up a terror camp.

These officials said Aswat, a Pakistani national being sought for questioning as a person of interest by British authorities, was among three unindicted co-conspirators in the Oregon incident.

U.S. officials said a 2002 indictment in the Bly case links Aswat directly to Abu Hamza al-Masri, a fiery, one-eyed radical cleric from a London mosque who is now on trial in Britain for possessing al-Qaida literature and inciting the killing of Jews and other non-Muslims.

"I think this just gives us a glimpse into what might be happening inside the United States," said retired Air Force Lt. Col. Rick Francona, an NBC News terrorism expert. "We were able to uncover one operation — how many others are out there?"

"What's very scary is not only can they travel very easily through Europe, they could travel very easily to the United States because of their British citizenship," added retired Portland State University professer Gary Perlstein, a KGW terrorism expert.

The documents reveal Aswat worked with a Seattle man, James Ujaama, who pleaded guilty in 2003 to a charge of providing support to the Taliban for his role in trying to set up the "jihad training camp." Ujaama is now cooperating with federal prosecutors.

The southern Oregon ranch that may have been scouted as a potential terrorist training camp. (KGW Photo)

Court documents in the Ujaama case said a conspirator, whom U.S. officials identified as Aswat, arrived in New York City in November 1999 on Abu Hamza's orders. He made his way to Oregon, according to the documents, "for the purpose of evaluating the Bly property as a jihad training camp."

In the indictment, prosecutors also alleged the conspirators "met potential candidates for jihad training ... established security for the Bly property ... and they and others participated in firearms training and viewed a video recording on the subject of improvised poisons."

The documents also said Aswat, along with another conspirator, lived in Seattle in early 2000 and "expounded on the teachings" of Abu Hamza.

Aswat, in his early 30s, has family that lives in Leeds in northern England, where three of the four suspected London suicide bombers resided. At his family's house, neighbors said they haven't seen Aswat in nearly 10 years.

Aswat's believed to be hiding out in Pakistan, where government officials said he wasn't in custody and remained at large as of Wednesday night.


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Here is a great link:

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/93

Scroll down the page to learn more about WA, OR and the links to London.

1 posted on 07/20/2005 6:41:29 PM PDT by Splatter
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To: Splatter
Sure it wasn't the ONRDC camp-o-ree?

/sarcasm

2 posted on 07/20/2005 6:45:42 PM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: Splatter
BRITON NAMED AS BOMB PLANNER; MET WITH BIN LADEN

Brit 7/7 'bomb fixer' held (All Dead British Bombers Had His Phone #)

***Note the last name is spelled differently in these two articles, but this is the same person.

3 posted on 07/20/2005 6:46:05 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Splatter

This article said that the US had an indictment for this guy, but I am uncertain....did we ever have him in custody, or being followed and watched here in America?


4 posted on 07/20/2005 6:47:43 PM PDT by Txsleuth (John O'Neill for Supreme Court Justice!)
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To: Splatter

bump


5 posted on 07/20/2005 6:49:03 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: Splatter

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1447225/posts

Here is a related article: US. authorities unearth... tunnel under B. C. A bit unsettling isn't it?


6 posted on 07/20/2005 6:51:10 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Mr and Mrs WilsonIII were both working UNDERtheCOVERS!)
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To: Splatter

Why do they call these terrorists "masterminds"...they are hardly deserving of the term.


7 posted on 07/20/2005 6:52:32 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: Grampa Dave

ping


8 posted on 07/20/2005 6:55:07 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Anti-Bubba182 ~ "***Note the last name is spelled differently in these two articles, but this is the same person."

You mean a Muslim changed his name? B.F.S.! My favorite quote:"These two gentlemen are community activists, not terrorists," declared Ron Sims, the King County executive."

This is the same Ron Sims who oversaw the elections in King County Washington! Can you say "ignorant liberal apologist"?

9 posted on 07/20/2005 6:56:10 PM PDT by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: Splatter
"I think this just gives us a glimpse into what might be happening inside the United States," said retired Air Force Lt. Col. Rick Francona, an NBC News terrorism expert. "We were able to uncover one operation — how many others are out there?"

Like cockroaches in the dark.

10 posted on 07/20/2005 6:57:37 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: Splatter

Why is there a terrorist camp in Oregon?


11 posted on 07/20/2005 7:02:16 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: GVgirl

In the dark? No.. In the liberal West! They can scurry around, plot and plan in the light of day around here (Yes I'm in the once Great Northwest).

The Liberal Left-O-Crats are absolutely BLINDED by PC BS! We have elected officials DEFENDING SH** EATING COCKROACHES!

I hope Ron Sims is happy with the blood on his hands!


12 posted on 07/20/2005 7:03:53 PM PDT by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: Splatter

Hang on here a sec... are we talking about the same cell that the Feds were trying to investigate a couple of years ago, but that the Portland Mayor and city council decided to protect by actively interfering with and shutting down any cooperation with the feds?

Is that what this is?


13 posted on 07/20/2005 7:03:55 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: Indy Pendance

Ever hear of the Beltway sniper?


14 posted on 07/20/2005 7:04:36 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: Indy Pendance
Why is there a terrorist camp in Oregon?

Because Nevadans would just kill them and bury their carcasses in the desert.

15 posted on 07/20/2005 7:05:16 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Indy Pendance

Because is IS OREGON!

As OR's PR campaign says: "Things look different here!".

Yeah, just ignore the Hippies, Leftists, Liberals, Multi Marketing, Democrat Unions, Medical Pot, Homeless Camps, Anarchists, Assisted Suicide and Political Corruption.

Things do look inviting...to TERRORISTS!


16 posted on 07/20/2005 7:09:48 PM PDT by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: lightman
Of course, but if this is common knowledge, the Oregon terrorist camp, why haven't our omnipresent government closed it down.
17 posted on 07/20/2005 7:10:02 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Splatter
The obligatory pic...


18 posted on 07/20/2005 7:10:26 PM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (Know the difference between honoring diversity and honoring perversity? No? You must be a liberal!)
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To: LayoutGuru2; Chieftain

That is just priceless! I would hate to see if that was a boy scout camp....then the Libs would REALLY get mad!

By the way, is it time now to check out names such as Mohamed, or AHmed or Osama, etc. on "visitors' to this country? Oh, uh, I forgot, they can just come across our southern border.

The politically correct BS is going to get all of us killed. After the next terror attack, I can't wait to see how quickly we get REAL POLITICALLY INCORRECT!


19 posted on 07/20/2005 7:21:52 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: zip

ping


20 posted on 07/20/2005 7:24:03 PM PDT by Mrs Zip
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