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London bomb suspect linked to Ore. terror camp (terrorists on the left coast)
kgw.com ^ | Wednesday, July 20, 2005 | By kgw.com, NBC and CNN Staff (Spaltter)

Posted on 07/20/2005 6:41:28 PM PDT by Splatter

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Investigators probing the London terror bombings are focusing on an elusive British Muslim suspect who is connected to a previous plot to set up a terrorist training camp in rural southern Oregon, according to U.S. counterterrorism officials.

Officials told both NBC News and CNN Wednesday that Haroon Rashid Aswat, believed to be a mastermind of the London bombings, is the same British-born Muslim of Indian descent who scouted a Bly, Oregon ranch to set up a terror camp.

These officials said Aswat, a Pakistani national being sought for questioning as a person of interest by British authorities, was among three unindicted co-conspirators in the Oregon incident.

U.S. officials said a 2002 indictment in the Bly case links Aswat directly to Abu Hamza al-Masri, a fiery, one-eyed radical cleric from a London mosque who is now on trial in Britain for possessing al-Qaida literature and inciting the killing of Jews and other non-Muslims.

"I think this just gives us a glimpse into what might be happening inside the United States," said retired Air Force Lt. Col. Rick Francona, an NBC News terrorism expert. "We were able to uncover one operation — how many others are out there?"

"What's very scary is not only can they travel very easily through Europe, they could travel very easily to the United States because of their British citizenship," added retired Portland State University professer Gary Perlstein, a KGW terrorism expert.

The documents reveal Aswat worked with a Seattle man, James Ujaama, who pleaded guilty in 2003 to a charge of providing support to the Taliban for his role in trying to set up the "jihad training camp." Ujaama is now cooperating with federal prosecutors.

The southern Oregon ranch that may have been scouted as a potential terrorist training camp. (KGW Photo)

Court documents in the Ujaama case said a conspirator, whom U.S. officials identified as Aswat, arrived in New York City in November 1999 on Abu Hamza's orders. He made his way to Oregon, according to the documents, "for the purpose of evaluating the Bly property as a jihad training camp."

In the indictment, prosecutors also alleged the conspirators "met potential candidates for jihad training ... established security for the Bly property ... and they and others participated in firearms training and viewed a video recording on the subject of improvised poisons."

The documents also said Aswat, along with another conspirator, lived in Seattle in early 2000 and "expounded on the teachings" of Abu Hamza.

Aswat, in his early 30s, has family that lives in Leeds in northern England, where three of the four suspected London suicide bombers resided. At his family's house, neighbors said they haven't seen Aswat in nearly 10 years.

Aswat's believed to be hiding out in Pakistan, where government officials said he wasn't in custody and remained at large as of Wednesday night.


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Here is a great link:

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/93

Scroll down the page to learn more about WA, OR and the links to London.

1 posted on 07/20/2005 6:41:29 PM PDT by Splatter
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To: Splatter
Sure it wasn't the ONRDC camp-o-ree?

/sarcasm

2 posted on 07/20/2005 6:45:42 PM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: Splatter
BRITON NAMED AS BOMB PLANNER; MET WITH BIN LADEN

Brit 7/7 'bomb fixer' held (All Dead British Bombers Had His Phone #)

***Note the last name is spelled differently in these two articles, but this is the same person.

3 posted on 07/20/2005 6:46:05 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Splatter

This article said that the US had an indictment for this guy, but I am uncertain....did we ever have him in custody, or being followed and watched here in America?


4 posted on 07/20/2005 6:47:43 PM PDT by Txsleuth (John O'Neill for Supreme Court Justice!)
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To: Splatter

bump


5 posted on 07/20/2005 6:49:03 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: Splatter

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1447225/posts

Here is a related article: US. authorities unearth... tunnel under B. C. A bit unsettling isn't it?


6 posted on 07/20/2005 6:51:10 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Mr and Mrs WilsonIII were both working UNDERtheCOVERS!)
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To: Splatter

Why do they call these terrorists "masterminds"...they are hardly deserving of the term.


7 posted on 07/20/2005 6:52:32 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: Grampa Dave

ping


8 posted on 07/20/2005 6:55:07 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Anti-Bubba182 ~ "***Note the last name is spelled differently in these two articles, but this is the same person."

You mean a Muslim changed his name? B.F.S.! My favorite quote:"These two gentlemen are community activists, not terrorists," declared Ron Sims, the King County executive."

This is the same Ron Sims who oversaw the elections in King County Washington! Can you say "ignorant liberal apologist"?

9 posted on 07/20/2005 6:56:10 PM PDT by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: Splatter
"I think this just gives us a glimpse into what might be happening inside the United States," said retired Air Force Lt. Col. Rick Francona, an NBC News terrorism expert. "We were able to uncover one operation — how many others are out there?"

Like cockroaches in the dark.

10 posted on 07/20/2005 6:57:37 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: Splatter

Why is there a terrorist camp in Oregon?


11 posted on 07/20/2005 7:02:16 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: GVgirl

In the dark? No.. In the liberal West! They can scurry around, plot and plan in the light of day around here (Yes I'm in the once Great Northwest).

The Liberal Left-O-Crats are absolutely BLINDED by PC BS! We have elected officials DEFENDING SH** EATING COCKROACHES!

I hope Ron Sims is happy with the blood on his hands!


12 posted on 07/20/2005 7:03:53 PM PDT by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: Splatter

Hang on here a sec... are we talking about the same cell that the Feds were trying to investigate a couple of years ago, but that the Portland Mayor and city council decided to protect by actively interfering with and shutting down any cooperation with the feds?

Is that what this is?


13 posted on 07/20/2005 7:03:55 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: Indy Pendance

Ever hear of the Beltway sniper?


14 posted on 07/20/2005 7:04:36 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: Indy Pendance
Why is there a terrorist camp in Oregon?

Because Nevadans would just kill them and bury their carcasses in the desert.

15 posted on 07/20/2005 7:05:16 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Indy Pendance

Because is IS OREGON!

As OR's PR campaign says: "Things look different here!".

Yeah, just ignore the Hippies, Leftists, Liberals, Multi Marketing, Democrat Unions, Medical Pot, Homeless Camps, Anarchists, Assisted Suicide and Political Corruption.

Things do look inviting...to TERRORISTS!


16 posted on 07/20/2005 7:09:48 PM PDT by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: lightman
Of course, but if this is common knowledge, the Oregon terrorist camp, why haven't our omnipresent government closed it down.
17 posted on 07/20/2005 7:10:02 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Splatter
The obligatory pic...


18 posted on 07/20/2005 7:10:26 PM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (Know the difference between honoring diversity and honoring perversity? No? You must be a liberal!)
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To: LayoutGuru2; Chieftain

That is just priceless! I would hate to see if that was a boy scout camp....then the Libs would REALLY get mad!

By the way, is it time now to check out names such as Mohamed, or AHmed or Osama, etc. on "visitors' to this country? Oh, uh, I forgot, they can just come across our southern border.

The politically correct BS is going to get all of us killed. After the next terror attack, I can't wait to see how quickly we get REAL POLITICALLY INCORRECT!


19 posted on 07/20/2005 7:21:52 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: zip

ping


20 posted on 07/20/2005 7:24:03 PM PDT by Mrs Zip
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To: LayoutGuru2

Hahahaha.. That is classic!

Hey, don't forget Washington! We have some of the best "Target Practice" gravel pits around!

Seriously, if a terrorist wanted to smuggle a nuke into the US, I'm sure WA/OR would be high on their list of boarders. The "Public Officials" are not only liberal but lazy. Why else would a s**tbag start a TRAINING CAMP? They know the OR history of tolerance.

Quick Creepy Quiz..

The first "Bio-Attack In The U.S." happened where, and was committed by who?


21 posted on 07/20/2005 7:25:22 PM PDT by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: Splatter; oregon; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; ...

Oregon Ping

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Oregon Ping List.

22 posted on 07/20/2005 7:27:10 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Splatter
Secret tunnel across Canadian border found
23 posted on 07/20/2005 7:28:50 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Indy Pendance
Why is there a terrorist camp in Oregon?

A good question for our looney governor...

24 posted on 07/20/2005 7:30:16 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Splatter
U.S. authorities unearth smuggling tunnel under B.C. border
25 posted on 07/20/2005 7:31:17 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Ping me...


26 posted on 07/20/2005 7:32:04 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: randog

Sudden mental image of USAF F-16s attacking terrorist targets on US soil...


27 posted on 07/20/2005 7:42:08 PM PDT by Levante
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To: hoosiermama

hoosiermama ~

Yes..Very unsettling.

Linked? Maybe, but I feel the terrorists are already here, have WMD and are waiting for the right moment.

The (formerly) Great Northwest is a staging ground for attacks in London? It's not a surprise to me...What's next, L.A., NY, Chicago?


28 posted on 07/20/2005 7:43:09 PM PDT by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: Salvation

A tunnel..Is it big enough to import a suitcase nuke?

Oh no, NW "elecetd" officials wouldn't let anything but B.C.bud be smuggled into our country. After all, Gotta keep those liberals HIGH so they don't notice the terrorist training camps.


29 posted on 07/20/2005 7:47:03 PM PDT by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Which one is correct? Asshat, or Asswad?


30 posted on 07/20/2005 7:49:31 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Splatter

I know, I know!!!! (forgets to raise hand)


31 posted on 07/20/2005 7:57:45 PM PDT by investigateworld ( God bless Poland for giving the world JP II & a Protestant bump for his Sainthood!)
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To: randog

LOL! Bump.


32 posted on 07/20/2005 8:01:30 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: investigateworld

and the answer is...
Hare Krishnas assaulting people dirty diapers?

Sorry, no...


33 posted on 07/20/2005 8:02:38 PM PDT by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: investigateworld

Please give your answer in the form of a question.. ; ^)


34 posted on 07/20/2005 8:04:00 PM PDT by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: BykrBayb

LOL...

That IS funny.


35 posted on 07/20/2005 8:05:07 PM PDT by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: LayoutGuru2; Grampa Dave

Ding! Ding!! Ding!!! Grampa Dave. Do ya remmemer this graphic that you used to post for me???


36 posted on 07/20/2005 8:05:21 PM PDT by SierraWasp (What other nation could spear a comet in deep space on independence holiday? God Bless America!!!)
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To: BykrBayb
"Which one is correct? Asshat, or Asswad?"

One is ass good ass the other..

37 posted on 07/20/2005 8:09:05 PM PDT by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: Splatter

The first thing that I thought of when I heard that there was a link between the bombing in Spain and the one in London, was I wonder if the that Oregon guy whose finger print was found in the Spain bombing was involved in this one. They eventually let him off on that, but I never fully believed in his innocence. Now again, I am going to ask is this guy related to the London bombings also?

I'll have to go look up his name.


38 posted on 07/20/2005 8:09:26 PM PDT by Eva
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To: GVgirl
"Like cockroaches in the dark."

Yup! We needs ta shine a big light on 'em and stomp them suckas inta Kingdom Come!!!

Onwurd Cristshun soldjers marchin as to war... (Well, Teddy Roosevelt played it at his BullMoose Party's convention!)

39 posted on 07/20/2005 8:10:54 PM PDT by SierraWasp (What other nation could spear a comet in deep space on independence holiday? God Bless America!!!)
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To: Splatter

Thanks. So glad I assed.


40 posted on 07/20/2005 8:11:34 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Splatter

Here it is. This idiot has got to be tied in to this as well.

Investigators have linked Portland, Ore., lawyer Brandon Mayfield to the Madrid terrorist bombings through a fingerprint lifted from a bag containing detonators discovered near the train station where three of the four bombed trains originated, according to sources in Spain and the United States familiar with the probe.

The bag, which contained cell phone detonators similar to those used in the attack that killed 191 people, was found in a stolen van left in the town of Alcala de Henares. It was parked near a house where police say the bombs were assembled.

Tracing another set of fingerprints found in both the van and the house, as well as the origin of the cell phones, police found a cell phone shop in Madrid owned by Moroccan Jamal Zougam, whom Spanish police describe as the plot's mastermind.

When Spanish investigators were unable to identify one of the fingerprints on the bag in the van, they distributed it to other countries, including the United States, where authorities linked it to Mayfield, said the sources, who asked for anonymity because a judge has imposed a gag order on government officials in the case. Mayfield would have been fingerprinted when he served in the military.

Mayfield, 37, a Kansas native and Army veteran, was detained on a material witness warrant Thursday, the first American linked to the simultaneous bombings of four commuter trains in Madrid. More than 2,000 people were injured in the attack, which helped topple the Spanish government in an election held three days later.

Eighteen Spanish and Moroccan suspects have been arrested.

Mayfield's attorney and relatives say they are baffled by the alleged connection between the mild-mannered Muslim convert and the Madrid plot, noting that Mayfield has not been out of the country in more than 10 years.

Mayfield told Thomas Nelson, the Portland lawyer who is acting as his spokesman, that he had never been to Spain, his passport had expired in October of last year, and he had never met anyone from Morocco.

"Brandon is flabbergasted," Nelson said. "He has no explanation for these charges. He thinks this is crazy." Nelson said he believed that Mayfield's only travel abroad had occurred when he was in the Army and serving in Germany.

Nelson complained about a "calculated leak" from the Justice Department to the news media Thursday about Mayfield, telling KATU-TV in Portland that the information had "led to the frenzy that we see out here that is destroying and disparaging his family, his relationships, his children and his law practice. That leak is devastating. It was unnecessary, unethical and inappropriate."

But federal officials were clearly upset that their investigation was rushed to a premature close. "The plan was to sit on him longer, but it started to get out in a big way, so they had to move," said a law enforcement official who declined to be named, citing the gag order.

Acquaintances in Portland said they did not know of any involvement by Mayfield with militant Islam, though he became tangentially involved with one of six members of a Portland terror cell who pleaded guilty to charges last year. Mayfield defended Jeffrey Leon Battle, who was sentenced to 18 years in prison for conspiring to fight against U.S. troops in Afghanistan, in an unsuccessful bid to retain custody of his son.

"I don't think they knew each other before Mayfield volunteered to represent him in the custody matter," said one defense lawyer involved in the case. The lawyer described Mayfield as "a very, very low-key guy, very quiet."

Mayfield's younger sister, Amy Sikes, said her brother had served about four years in an Army signals unit out of Fort Lewis, Wash., in the late 1980s and had been stationed for about a year in Germany. He met his Egyptian-born wife, Mona, while at Fort Lewis and converted to Islam in 1989, his sister said. The couple have two sons, ages 15 and 10, and a 12-year-old daughter, Sikes said.

"She's the love of his life, and I'm sure that's what got him interested in the Islamic culture," Sikes said of Mayfield's wife. "He's very family oriented and always has been."

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41 posted on 07/20/2005 8:11:53 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Splatter

If this were in a red state it would lead the news for the next week.


42 posted on 07/20/2005 8:13:56 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Dean won't call Osama guilty without a trial, but DeLay and Rove should be in jail)
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To: Splatter
Hummm ... theme song ... What are the Dalles, Where is Antelope, and who had 100 Rolls Royce's?
(And What ever happened to the Bagwah?) Why was not the year 1884 a good one for Oregon Salad Bars?
43 posted on 07/20/2005 8:14:56 PM PDT by investigateworld ( God bless Poland for giving the world JP II & a Protestant bump for his Sainthood!)
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To: Splatter
"... — how many others are out there?"

Ask the ones responsible for our current border situation.

44 posted on 07/20/2005 8:22:51 PM PDT by Looking4Truth (Never trust the old media for information.)
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To: Eva

Eva, don't bother. He isn't involved (in the bombing of London). He is just an a$$hole lawyer (sorry to offend a$$holes) who is currently suing the Feds for wrongful persecution and is attempting to kill the Patriot Act.

See, thats his job. He is inside to subvert our security by using our system. He is a person of "coincidence".

Its all magic, slight of hand. "See this, now pay attention, see it?.. OK! Keep your eye on the ball. Now, can you find the terrorist?"


45 posted on 07/20/2005 8:26:39 PM PDT by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: LayoutGuru2

You actually live in Oregon and think this picture represents the views of most state residents?


46 posted on 07/20/2005 8:39:03 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: investigateworld

Ya know, I think that is why the Rajneeshees were banished from Oregon!

They tried to contaminate veggies! I mean, how bad can you be to poison people who eat lettuce. Now, if you eat things with a face, that is a different story.

Eco-nuts need to be turned loose in the middle east. It's a win win!


47 posted on 07/20/2005 8:40:35 PM PDT by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: LayoutGuru2
[Obligatory pic deleted]

Anti PC-Northwest Sarcasm Torpedo ARMED. FIRE!!

I'm sorry, but that has got to be just about the most unconvincing photoshopping I have ever seen.

I mean, think about it--Portland, OR with the sun shining?

Cheers!

48 posted on 07/20/2005 8:44:17 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Splatter
Not THE Bly ranch in question but another Bly, Oregon ranch in case anyone is interested in the terrain.



49 posted on 07/20/2005 8:44:25 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Indy Pendance

Why is there a terrorist camp in Oregon?...


Grand Coulee Dam???


50 posted on 07/20/2005 8:45:00 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Peace, Love, Brotherhood, and Firepower. And the greatest of these is Firepower!)
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