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Ebonics suggested for district
San Bernardino County Sun ^ | 17 July 2005 | Irma Lemus

Posted on 07/18/2005 10:25:14 AM PDT by 45Auto

Incorporating Ebonics into a new school policy that targets black students, the lowest-achieving group in the San Bernardino City Unified School District, may provide students a more well-rounded curriculum, said a local sociologist.

The goal of the district's policy is to improve black students' academic performance by keeping them interested in school. Compared with other racial groups in the district, black students go to college the least and have the most dropouts and suspensions.

Blacks make up the second largest racial group in the district, trailing Latinos.

A pilot of the policy, known as the Students Accumulating New Knowledge Optimizing Future Accomplishment Initiative, has been implemented at two city schools.

Mary Texeira, a sociology professor at Cal State San Bernardino, commended the San Bernardino Board of Education for approving the policy in June.

Texeira suggested that including Ebonics in the program would be beneficial for students. Ebonics, a dialect of American English that is spoken by many blacks throughout the country, was recognized as a separate language in 1996 by the Oakland school board.

"Ebonics is a different language, it's not slang as many believe,' Texeira said. "For many of these students Ebonics is their language, and it should be considered a foreign language. These students should be taught like other students who speak a foreign language.'

Texeira said research has shown that students learn better when they fully comprehend the language they are being taught in.

"There are African Americans who do not agree with me. They say that (black students) are lazy and that they need to learn to talk,' Texeira said.

Len Cooper, who is coordinating the pilot program at the two city schools, said San Bernardino district officials do not plan to incorporate Ebonics into the program.

"Because Ebonics can have a negative stigma, we're not focusing on that,' Cooper said. "We are affirming and recognizing Ebonics through supplemental reading books (for students).'

Beginning in the 2005-06 school year, teachers will receive training on black culture and customs. District curriculum will now include information on the historical, cultural and social impact of blacks in society. Although the program is aimed at black students, other students can choose to participate.

The pilot program at Rio Vista Elementary and King Middle schools focuses on second-, fourth- and seventh-grade classes. District officials hope to train teachers from other schools using the program as a model.

Board member Danny Tillman, who pushed for the policy, said that full implementation of the program at all schools may take years, but the pilot program is a beginning.

"At every step we will see positive results,' Tillman said.

Tillman hoped the new policy would increase the number of black students going to college and participating in advanced courses.

Teresa Parra, board vice president, said she worried the new program would have an adverse effect.

"I'm afraid that now that we have this the Hispanic community, our largest population, will say, 'We want something for us.' Next we'll have the Asian community and the Jewish community (asking for their own programs). When will it end?'

Parra said the district should focus on helping all students who are at risk.

"I've always thought that we should provide students support based on their needs and not on their race,' Parra said.

Tillman disagreed with Parra, saying programs that help Latinos already exist in the district. He cited the district's English- as-a-second-language program.

Texeira urged people not be quick to judge the new program as socially exclusive. She said people need to be open to the program.

"Everybody has prejudices, but we must all learn to control that behavior,' Texeira said. She said a child's self confidence is tied to his or her cultural identity.

She compared the low performance of black students to starvation. "How can you be angry when you feed a family of starving children?'

Ratibu Jacocks, a member of the Westside Action Group, a coalition of black activists, said they are working with the district to ensure the policy is implemented appropriately.

"This isn't a feel-good policy. This is the real thing,' Jacocks said.

Jacocks said he didn't believe the new policy would create animosity. He said he welcomed the idea of other ethnic groups pushing for their own programs.

"When you are doing what's right, others will follow,' Jacocks said. "We have led the way before the civil-rights movement opened the door for women's rights and other movements.'


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To: rdb3

In his mind you don't exist.


361 posted on 07/18/2005 6:10:35 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (There will be no bad talk or loud talk in this place. CB Stubblefield.)
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To: junaid

Mine was, "Jimmy have you ever seen a grown man naked"


362 posted on 07/18/2005 6:11:43 PM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: Dianna; mhking
Laziness?

I call it gaming the system. If it can be classified a "foreign language" it is eligible for extra grants, especially grants not based on "need". School districts are constantly gaming the system to get more money. The most desired employees are those with grantsmanship skills.

Follow the money.

363 posted on 07/18/2005 6:14:18 PM PDT by NormalGuy
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To: bboop

Got to agree with you, it seems that women are the driving force behind the "feel good, relax, lets all get along at any cost mentality" that has taken over the schools nowadays.


364 posted on 07/18/2005 6:16:47 PM PDT by ABN 505
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To: 45Auto

I'm certain the KKK will support the decision to use Ebonics in schools.


365 posted on 07/18/2005 6:25:03 PM PDT by quadrant
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To: bill1952

My cousin lived in Hawaii. Private schools were paid for by her husband's job. I said, "Aren't you interested in having your kids in the local schools? (I was still a liberal). They can learn about the local culture." hahaha. She said, "No, they teach and speak pidgin English in them. I would NEVER put my kids in them." Sounds like California is going the same way.... Time to move.


366 posted on 07/18/2005 6:35:47 PM PDT by bboop
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To: Clemenza

Actually I lived right next to East Side High School - corner of New York Ave. and Pulaski Street. The nonsense I saw at Central was while I was at NJIT. Folks left Newark in 1965, so from the 5th grade on I was in Whippany.


367 posted on 07/18/2005 6:43:21 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: TheForceOfOne

I be be-in yor momma, I be be-in...let me axe you sumptin! How yo knowin dat!?


368 posted on 07/18/2005 6:50:48 PM PDT by Doc Savage (...because they stand on a wall, and they say nothing is going to hurt you tonight, not on my watch!)
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To: ABN 505

That kind of thinking has taken over the libs/ politics too. "Can't we just all get along?" NO, not unless they stop attacking us. Go whine at the muzzies .... It's in the churches too. Feel-good theology. (ok, dont get me started).


369 posted on 07/18/2005 6:55:30 PM PDT by bboop
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

"I'm sorry, but I insist! I want a brain surgeon who has studied and speaks ebonics. If anyone is going to expose my brain pan (see Anne of Green Gables for reference!) and find out why I say "I be be-in" constantly, it must be a brother from the hood!"


370 posted on 07/18/2005 6:57:25 PM PDT by Doc Savage (...because they stand on a wall, and they say nothing is going to hurt you tonight, not on my watch!)
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To: Blue Jays

And don't forget to wear your do-rag for the interview, and always preface each question with, "Let me axe you dis,....most employers really get excited by it!!


371 posted on 07/18/2005 7:02:28 PM PDT by Doc Savage (...because they stand on a wall, and they say nothing is going to hurt you tonight, not on my watch!)
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To: 45Auto

I wonder what's the word in Ebonics for 'pidgin English'?!


372 posted on 07/18/2005 7:06:27 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Clemenza
The same is true of lower class and some blue collar whites

Yes. My late husband was a working class white guy who never knew any blacks until he went into the Army. He was from outside of Ann Arbor and his whole family would talk about the 'rich kids' going to UM, as if no one was there on scholarship or no one's parents sacrificed to send their kids there (as I ended up doing after he died).

I was truly shocked when he and his father came out in support of Jesse Jackson's run for president. Why? Because they thought the working man would finally 'get something' from the government if Jackson was president. Kinda sad.

Like your tag line.

373 posted on 07/18/2005 7:52:27 PM PDT by radiohead (Proud member of the 'arrogant supermagt')
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To: 45Auto

Instead of trying to dumb down every kid to the lowest common denominator, how about we try teaching the stinkin' little gangster wannabes proper English. There's a novel idea.


374 posted on 07/18/2005 7:57:12 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: softwarecreator
"How about letting all libbies/leftists move to one state & let them secede, thereby answering everyone's wishes."

The only way they would ever agree to that is if they could take all of OUR money with them.

375 posted on 07/18/2005 8:26:46 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: ModelBreaker
"one solution to this problem would be to make sure that every student in every American school was fluent in English."

Racist xenophobe. < /sarcasm >

376 posted on 07/18/2005 8:34:23 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: cvq3842
"If someone indeed WANTED to make sure these kids were uneducated, unemployable, locked out of our society and resentful, it would be hard to come up with a better plan."

At the rate we're going, it is the educated and literate who will be locked out of the society. The lunatics (translated liberals) and illegals will BE the society.

377 posted on 07/18/2005 8:36:47 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: rdb3

I believe they can succeed if trained properly.

Ebonics does not help them.

They want to speak Ebonics? Fine. But an adult must be prepared for the real world, and that includes good verbal and written communication skills.


378 posted on 07/18/2005 9:21:25 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: 45Auto
Unbelievable.
379 posted on 07/18/2005 9:45:26 PM PDT by octobersky
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To: bboop
I am a teacher and a parent. That kind of training RUINS children, I think. And, as a woman, I will say -- it's women doing it, for the most part. tsk tsk.

I totally agree. I was simply disagreeing with the idea that these teachers are lazy. I don't think ideas like this are carried out through laziness or even evil (on the part of the teachers themselves, anyway).

380 posted on 07/18/2005 10:49:46 PM PDT by Dianna
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