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Ebonics suggested for district
San Bernardino County Sun ^ | 17 July 2005 | Irma Lemus

Posted on 07/18/2005 10:25:14 AM PDT by 45Auto

Incorporating Ebonics into a new school policy that targets black students, the lowest-achieving group in the San Bernardino City Unified School District, may provide students a more well-rounded curriculum, said a local sociologist.

The goal of the district's policy is to improve black students' academic performance by keeping them interested in school. Compared with other racial groups in the district, black students go to college the least and have the most dropouts and suspensions.

Blacks make up the second largest racial group in the district, trailing Latinos.

A pilot of the policy, known as the Students Accumulating New Knowledge Optimizing Future Accomplishment Initiative, has been implemented at two city schools.

Mary Texeira, a sociology professor at Cal State San Bernardino, commended the San Bernardino Board of Education for approving the policy in June.

Texeira suggested that including Ebonics in the program would be beneficial for students. Ebonics, a dialect of American English that is spoken by many blacks throughout the country, was recognized as a separate language in 1996 by the Oakland school board.

"Ebonics is a different language, it's not slang as many believe,' Texeira said. "For many of these students Ebonics is their language, and it should be considered a foreign language. These students should be taught like other students who speak a foreign language.'

Texeira said research has shown that students learn better when they fully comprehend the language they are being taught in.

"There are African Americans who do not agree with me. They say that (black students) are lazy and that they need to learn to talk,' Texeira said.

Len Cooper, who is coordinating the pilot program at the two city schools, said San Bernardino district officials do not plan to incorporate Ebonics into the program.

"Because Ebonics can have a negative stigma, we're not focusing on that,' Cooper said. "We are affirming and recognizing Ebonics through supplemental reading books (for students).'

Beginning in the 2005-06 school year, teachers will receive training on black culture and customs. District curriculum will now include information on the historical, cultural and social impact of blacks in society. Although the program is aimed at black students, other students can choose to participate.

The pilot program at Rio Vista Elementary and King Middle schools focuses on second-, fourth- and seventh-grade classes. District officials hope to train teachers from other schools using the program as a model.

Board member Danny Tillman, who pushed for the policy, said that full implementation of the program at all schools may take years, but the pilot program is a beginning.

"At every step we will see positive results,' Tillman said.

Tillman hoped the new policy would increase the number of black students going to college and participating in advanced courses.

Teresa Parra, board vice president, said she worried the new program would have an adverse effect.

"I'm afraid that now that we have this the Hispanic community, our largest population, will say, 'We want something for us.' Next we'll have the Asian community and the Jewish community (asking for their own programs). When will it end?'

Parra said the district should focus on helping all students who are at risk.

"I've always thought that we should provide students support based on their needs and not on their race,' Parra said.

Tillman disagreed with Parra, saying programs that help Latinos already exist in the district. He cited the district's English- as-a-second-language program.

Texeira urged people not be quick to judge the new program as socially exclusive. She said people need to be open to the program.

"Everybody has prejudices, but we must all learn to control that behavior,' Texeira said. She said a child's self confidence is tied to his or her cultural identity.

She compared the low performance of black students to starvation. "How can you be angry when you feed a family of starving children?'

Ratibu Jacocks, a member of the Westside Action Group, a coalition of black activists, said they are working with the district to ensure the policy is implemented appropriately.

"This isn't a feel-good policy. This is the real thing,' Jacocks said.

Jacocks said he didn't believe the new policy would create animosity. He said he welcomed the idea of other ethnic groups pushing for their own programs.

"When you are doing what's right, others will follow,' Jacocks said. "We have led the way before the civil-rights movement opened the door for women's rights and other movements.'


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To: William Creel

'working-class', dont you mean welfare class vernacular. I know working class African Americans and they have not trouble speaking, reading, and learning in plain old english..


121 posted on 07/18/2005 10:53:33 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: All
Blacks make up the second largest racial group in the district, trailing Latinos

I assume once we get ebonics in place, the next step will be lbonics for the latinos. It would only be fair.

122 posted on 07/18/2005 10:54:01 AM PDT by skip_intro
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To: 45Auto

However, believe it or not, I went to probably the most liberal high school in the most liberal town on the east coast, and not all that many years ago either. The general education was decent, and I learned how to learn (their biggest mistake). I've managed to come as far as I have on my own in the time since then.


123 posted on 07/18/2005 10:54:29 AM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
The language of success is English.

And that is true not only in the U.S. but throughout the world. I am struck by the number of times I have seen Greta van Susteran walk up to an ordinary Aruban on the street, ask a question, and get an answer in perfect or near-perfect English. Its remarkable; we go to Aruba to visit, and most of them speak our language well beyond what is necessary to capture tourist dollars. But here in the U.S. we have people who dont think it is necessary for our own residents to speak our language at least as well as tens of millions of foreigners can.

Unbelievable.

124 posted on 07/18/2005 10:55:47 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: 45Auto
Ebonics, a dialect of American English that is spoken by many blacks throughout the country, was recognized as a separate language in 1996 by the Oakland school board.

This is what...like a Supreme Court ruling?

LOL

125 posted on 07/18/2005 10:55:51 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: johnb838

There are 2 parts to your RIGHT to the information. The company has a companion RESPONSIBILITY to ensure that you receive it, both to preclude lawsuits and to ensure you know about the dangerous materials you will work with.

After all, if you misuse a dangerous chemical you will affect not only yourself, but also your coworkers.

My $.02


126 posted on 07/18/2005 10:56:07 AM PDT by MortMan (Mostly Harmless)
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To: AppyPappy
We can start teaching Yooper here.
127 posted on 07/18/2005 10:56:38 AM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance

Thanks for the formatting. Slap mah fro!


128 posted on 07/18/2005 10:57:00 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: SirChas

Seems like only yesterday that blacks where correctly demanding the right to attend better public schools with white kids. Now it seems like some want to go back. I can think of no long term situations where teaching "Ebonics" would be a good thing, while many obvious situations come to mind where it would be a bad thing.

What a horrible idea.


129 posted on 07/18/2005 10:57:02 AM PDT by mad puppy ( "He's with me!" And I'm with W.)
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To: 45Auto
Incorporating Ebonics into a new school policy that targets black students, the lowest-achieving group in the San Bernardino City Unified School District, may provide students a more well-rounded curriculum, said a local sociologist.

Too stupid for words.

130 posted on 07/18/2005 10:57:26 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: cweese

I didn't see your post, but your welcome!


131 posted on 07/18/2005 10:57:40 AM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: MortMan
There are 2 parts to your RIGHT to the information. The company has a companion RESPONSIBILITY to ensure that you receive it, both to preclude lawsuits and to ensure you know about the dangerous materials you will work with.

After all, if you misuse a dangerous chemical you will affect not only yourself, but also your coworkers.

And even after that, if you misuse it and injure yourself and/or others, you can still sue them out of existence. Or at least cash in on a big workers comp claim.

132 posted on 07/18/2005 10:57:57 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: COBOL2Java

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I forgot all about that! OMG....

The problem here is that, while this subject can provide endless fodder for humor, it is deadly serious in the lives of these young people, and the later decidedly negative implications for our society in general.

And yet...I want to laugh and scream in anguish at the same time. How can these two emotions co-exist?


133 posted on 07/18/2005 10:57:59 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: CollegeRepublicanNU

I typed in white man, you're right.


134 posted on 07/18/2005 10:58:08 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: 45Auto
Are they going to offer classes such as unemployment and welfare 101. Sorry but if these kids cannot be taught to speak or understand the English language, maybe they should prepare them for the future by educating them about the State Corrections system.
135 posted on 07/18/2005 10:58:38 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
"Subjecting these children to an Ebonic curriculum will drag them down further--a form of child abuse."

IIRC, that was the argument the first time this nonsense was suggested. That by doing this they would be futher ruining any chance they ever had of getting a real job.

And you know that the next thing to happen would be that they would sue the school district for not preparing them for the real world.

136 posted on 07/18/2005 10:59:05 AM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: 45Auto
Next we'll have the Asian community and the Jewish community (asking for their own programs).

For example, an end to restrictions on admissions of Asians to the California university system - because they do "too well" - how about that, for starters? But I guess unless you're a total failure, you're not the kind of person our great society really wants.

137 posted on 07/18/2005 10:59:33 AM PDT by livius
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To: martin_fierro

Hilarious! I remember that Boortz show..I have that Boo got shot wav saved on my home PC!


138 posted on 07/18/2005 10:59:55 AM PDT by Center Line Theory
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To: 45Auto
Tillman hoped the new policy would increase the number of black students going to college and participating in advanced courses.

Huh?

139 posted on 07/18/2005 11:00:18 AM PDT by DonnDe
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To: johnb838

yo, dat be meanin I be's havin 2nd language, y'know what I'm sayin?


140 posted on 07/18/2005 11:00:19 AM PDT by DaiHuy (Oderint dum metuant)
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