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Largest, US Sexuality Survey In History Shows Gays Far More Likely To Engage In Criminal Activities
LifeSite ^ | June 13, 2005

Posted on 06/14/2005 8:21:44 AM PDT by NYer

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To: SouthWall
It's because the mean old society makes everything gays like to do a criminal act. So if that nasty old society would just change the laws.(sarcasim off)

I thought it was because their dads were too strict and their moms were too soft.

No wait, God made them that way. Yeah that'll work.

61 posted on 06/14/2005 9:56:50 AM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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To: television is just wrong

"This woman has 3 children, and relatives from her marriage. Who have all been written out of her trust."


Sounds like this woman's children are incompetent or highly neglectful -- or if the kids are viable adults, perhaps the Mom was so controlling that she painted herself into this corner by not letting her kids help her with her business.


62 posted on 06/14/2005 10:18:44 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Spade = spade.)
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To: Publius6961

I wonder if the "James Cameron" in this article is any relation to the "Paul Cameron" of the same organization? Sheesh...written by mutton-heads FOR mutton-heads.


63 posted on 06/14/2005 10:19:54 AM PDT by dilford
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To: brooklyn dave

How is the CDC biased? They are the one that conducted the survey and gathered the information. It is their study. Their facts. I don't know why you would consider them biased.

That is the point the MSM will deliberately twist too. Dr. Cameron simply found what they hid and brought it to light.


64 posted on 06/14/2005 10:24:24 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: NYer

Just more evidence that proved that removal of Homosexuality as a Mental disorder by the DSMVI was based on politics.. not science.

Homosexuality is a mental disorder, it is not a civil right.


65 posted on 06/14/2005 10:29:29 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: ModelBreaker
Actually, it is much worse than that--the author didn't understand his numbers. Rounding, 11% of heteros have been arrested and 23% of homos have been. I assume that's where he gets his 12%. But actually, it's a more than 100% increase in the rate of criminality as the rate more than doubled.

Looks like the author understood his numbers perfectly - a 12% absolute increase in the chance of an incident per person can well be equivalent to a ~100% increase (or doubling) in overall comparative rate - I don't see where the author is trying to hide anything; the context was stated explicitly. I don't see the problem here. Statistics are always dependent on their context - that's just the nature of the beast.

66 posted on 06/14/2005 10:46:06 AM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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To: dilford
I wonder if the "James Cameron" in this article is any relation to the "Paul Cameron" of the same organization? Sheesh...written by mutton-heads FOR mutton-heads.

You should read the last three paragraphs of the article instead of blindly following the propaganda of the pro homosexual psycobabble peddlers.....

Dr. Cameron has long been a controversial character in the sociological/psychological world for his outspoken belief in the inherent dangers and immorality of homosexual behaviour. Some have asserted that his personal beliefs have influenced his research. Cameron, however, stands firmly behind his work and the scientific purity of his methods and conclusions.

Indeed, despite the taboo which certain pro-gay institutions, including the highly pro-gay American Psychological Association (APA), have attempted to attach to Cameron, the extent of his work into the subject has attracted a great deal of attention in the last number of years and his research has been widely cited.

In fact a Wall Street Journal article from April of this year reports that the journal in which Cameron publishes his work, Psychological Report, gives the necessary nod to the opinion of the APA and increases the number of peer reviewers from the usual four to as many as twenty-one before agreeing to publish his work. Following this extraordinary and unusual level of scientific rigour, Cameron’s studies continue to be printed in the journal as perfectly acceptable work in the realm of comparative sexual research.

67 posted on 06/14/2005 11:01:16 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (''Go though life with a Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other" -- Billy Graham)
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To: Mr. Mojo

headline "Study Bashes gays, findings are controversial"
with somewhere in the story to make a note "the only crime most homosexuals commit is engaging in lovemaking with their partner, which many right-wing nut states have declared such an act as against the law"


68 posted on 06/14/2005 11:12:54 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: NYer

If published, I fear the researcher will be spending a lot of time in court.

The anti Kinsey report?


69 posted on 06/14/2005 11:22:22 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: television is just wrong
My next door neighbor, 78 years old, with macular degeneration, allowed a gay man working at a neighborhood market to move into her house.

And I can tell the same story about my former landlady, who was similarly scammed by a straight man (who she caught on to and gave the boot) and then, a year later, by a black woman, who took her for a couple of hundred thousand before the old woman died.

70 posted on 06/14/2005 11:34:40 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: seamole
The article has been changed slightly on the web site.

LOL. That's the great thing about the Web. Stupid mistakes can be eliminated completely and without leaving a trace.

Then again, there's those rascals at FreeRepublic who think they can repost entire articles whenever they darn well please... ;O)

Thanks for the update.

72 posted on 06/14/2005 2:00:24 PM PDT by newgeezer (Pessimists are often right—and are delighted to be proved wrong. --Geo. F. Will)
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To: seamole; newgeezer

It's still dumb. Saying 107 percent implies 3 digit accuracy which polls never give and is also why it doesn't read right.


73 posted on 06/14/2005 2:04:14 PM PDT by biblewonk (Yes I think I am a bible worshipper.)
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To: biblewonk

You are absolutely correct, sir.

It should just say they're "twice as likely" or maybe "over twice as likely."

Oh, well.


74 posted on 06/14/2005 2:07:29 PM PDT by newgeezer (Pessimists are often right—and are delighted to be proved wrong. --Geo. F. Will)
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To: Albion Wilde

Or maybe a queer and a crooked lawyer tried to cheat her and her family.

Maybe the obvious conclusion is the correct conclusion.


75 posted on 06/14/2005 2:15:02 PM PDT by Eaker (Festive camaraderie and adrenaline addiction, with weapons and lots of ammo, leads to no good.)
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To: Mr. Mojo; Uncle Hal

"It'll be interesting to see if the MSM reports it."

The MSM will not report it for several reasons, but partly because Psychological Reports is not a reputable journal. It is what's known in the sciences as a "vanity" journal in which authors pay by the page to have their work published. They are a lot less picky about what they take than mainstream journals. The MSM usually only follows the major journals in each field.

To a scientist, even this superficial summary of the study suggests that there are a lot of potential flaws in Cameron's analysis and interpretation. His conclusion may be correct, but it is unlikely to be demonstrated by these data. There are all sorts of reasons one might see a correlation between self-reported sexual orientation and self-reported criminal activity that have nothing to do with his interpretation.


76 posted on 06/14/2005 2:47:54 PM PDT by Kahonek
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To: dangus
Later in the article, it explains that 11% of heteros were criminals, versus 23% of homosexuals. So its more than 100% more likely.

Not to quibble, but the article says booked for comitting a crime, not convicted.

77 posted on 06/14/2005 3:02:36 PM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: Antoninus
What it said was, the incidence of criminal activity among heterosexuals is 11%. Among homosexuals, it's 22.8%.

No, the article said that 22.8% of self-identified homosexuals were booked for crimes versus 11% of self-identified heterosexuals.

Booked does not=criminal

78 posted on 06/14/2005 3:04:37 PM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: Kahonek

Thanks for bringing that info to light.


79 posted on 06/14/2005 4:25:22 PM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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To: NYer; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse

Judaism’s Sexual Revolution: Why Judaism (and then Christianity) Rejected Homosexuality

Root Causes, Homosexual Consequences

80 posted on 06/14/2005 8:11:29 PM PDT by Coleus ("Woe unto him that call evil good and good evil"-- Isiah 5:20-21)
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