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New Yorkers lose tax derby
Press Republican ^ | 6/11/05 | staff

Posted on 06/12/2005 7:05:22 AM PDT by qam1

Congratulations, New Yorkers: You now have the distinction of officially being the highest-taxed group in the nation.

According to an annual publication of The Taxpayers Network, www.taxpayersnetwork.org in Cedarville, Wisc., New York — merely third in 2002 — has ascended to first place in 2004 in the category of state and local tax burden as percent of income.

On the average, New Yorkers pay 12.9 percent of their income to state and local taxes. In 2002, they paid 12.3 percent and were surpassed by Washington, D.C., and Maine.

Both Washington and Maine fell in the rankings, both because their respective percentages fell and because New York’s rose.

Why has New York reached the pinnacle?

Part of it must be the generous benefits New York state accords to Medicaid recipients. This state’s are said to be the most comprehensive of any, meaning that more maladies and conditions are covered than anyplace else.

New York is a great place to live if you need government assistance. If you’re among those helping to pay for it, though, it is the worst, and The Taxpayers Network has documented that it is so.

This hurts in two ways.

First, if you are a resident, you are keeping less of your pay than people in other states. This obviously is not a piece of information destined to promote peace of mind.

And second, if you are counting on business and industry migrating to your state to ease your tax burden, you are probably out of luck, since taxes are one factor such prospective migrants examine in trying to decide where to settle and they aren’t likely to choose a place where the government usurps so much of one’s income.

So economic-development specialists in New York state are swimming upstream. The northeastern corner of the state is particularly up against it, as it is isolated and subject to notorious weather.

The economic developers in this region deserve immense credit for accomplishing what they have. They have parlayed few advantages into impressive gains. Among those advantages are proximity to Canada and breathtaking scenery.

In trying to offset an extremely gloomy tax picture, they may not sound like much, but our advocates are apparently very clever.

We are now learning that, in addition to already high taxes, our property is increasing dramatically in value. While that sounds like a fortunate bit of news, it actually compounds our tax problems, since assessed value is a component of the tax formula.

In trying to find a way out of this paralyzing predicament, our trust must rest with our state representatives. It is up to them to find or invent ways to deliver services less expensively.

Other states are doing it, and they don’t seize 12.9 percent of constituents’ income. That is a dispiriting and indicting statistic.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: escapefromnewyork; newyork; taxes
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1 posted on 06/12/2005 7:05:22 AM PDT by qam1
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To: neverdem

FYI


2 posted on 06/12/2005 7:06:00 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1
Taxpayersnet is quite a site. Thanks.
3 posted on 06/12/2005 7:16:26 AM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops)
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To: qam1
Well, let's see.

Here in Florida, our state and local income tax equals...okay, carry the one, divide by 14...oh yeah, got it - ZERO.

Hmm. Guess which party controls the house, senate and Governorship?

Hey NY, keep electing those dems.
4 posted on 06/12/2005 7:17:34 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

.. & they will, . . New York is toast.


5 posted on 06/12/2005 7:20:23 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: qam1

New Yorkers need to emigrate to other states.


6 posted on 06/12/2005 7:22:26 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: gitmo

LOL!!! I did - 23 years ago and never looked to return.


7 posted on 06/12/2005 7:23:37 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: bill1952
Hmm. Guess which party controls the house, senate and Governorship? Hey NY, keep electing those dems.

In New York the Republicans control the Governorship and the Senate 35-26 and have for 10 years now.

8 posted on 06/12/2005 7:24:21 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: gitmo
New Yorkers need to emigrate to other states.

Welcome to Texas, NOW GO HOME!


9 posted on 06/12/2005 7:25:23 AM PDT by unixfox (AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
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To: Gabz

I'm thinking of doing the same thing on a county level. I live in Charlotte, NC. Our taxes are jumping sky high this year.


10 posted on 06/12/2005 7:25:54 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: qam1
Congratulations, New Yorkers: You now have the distinction of officially being the highest-taxed group in the nation.

Hillary at work doing what she does best.

11 posted on 06/12/2005 7:26:16 AM PDT by Gone_Postal (government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take it away)
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To: gitmo

I spent eight years of my adult life living in New York, half of that in NYC. Especially in the city, I never saw any indication that people were upset about their taxes. They seemed to be almost proud of what they were paying. Now in upstate there wasn't quite this love affair with taxes, and a lot of these people do in fact emigrate (although at least as much because of the weather as the high taxes.) High tax states got that way because people either wanted or didn't mind paying higher taxes. New York would be the last place you would see a tax revolt.


12 posted on 06/12/2005 7:28:21 AM PDT by speedy
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To: gitmo

It's one of the reasons we left Delaware - the taxes were starting to get ridiculous. We're very fortunate in the particular part of VA we live in now..the tax burden is much lower here than in other parts of the state.


13 posted on 06/12/2005 7:30:09 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: qam1

Just moved back to Upstate NY after finishing my military service. I love the area, and the family is here, but the various levels of government here drive me insane. Most people Upstate have conservative values but have been duped into believing that dems represent the little guy. Many of the republicans are either RINOS or former dems that switched parties. This state is regulated to death! There is a fee or a tax associated with just about anything you can think of. Ever driven through NY? First thing you come to after crossing over from PA is a toll booth. For all the taxes and fees there seems to be very little return. Where is all this money going? All the businesses seem to be leaving due to all the taxes, fees, regulations, and red tape. Ok rant off, but I hate what is happening to this state!!


14 posted on 06/12/2005 7:31:42 AM PDT by Boris99
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To: qam1
Are they real republicans?

I mean, to the right of Hillary.

All I ever see is schummer, clinton, rangel.

It is incredible that the state houses are pubs and built that state into the condition that it currently finds itself.
15 posted on 06/12/2005 7:32:45 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: gitmo

Please. NY transplants here are half of the dems numbers.

They keep demanding that Fl=NY.


16 posted on 06/12/2005 7:34:32 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

We have the same problem here in NC. They insist on telling us the better way to do things. Why did they leave Paradise in the first place?


17 posted on 06/12/2005 7:37:43 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: gitmo

I know.

We used to have a very popular bumper sticker:

"We don't CARE how you did it in NY"


18 posted on 06/12/2005 7:39:30 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

Here in NH, our income and sales tax DON'T EXIST!

Oh yes, and property taxes are under 2%.


19 posted on 06/12/2005 7:41:12 AM PDT by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: speedy; Gabz
But they ARE seeing a tax revolt. Businesses are leaving in droves.

Eg, phillip morris just moved back to richmond, VA. Gabz lives in VA.

And personally, I own a farm in NY - that sits vacant. 230 acres of mice and trees, no people - because I refuse to live there.

That IS a tax revolt.

20 posted on 06/12/2005 7:41:20 AM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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