Posted on 05/23/2005 10:21:27 AM PDT by Kaslin
American photojournalists and their editors are frustrated that they can't show more photos of U.S. soldiers dying in Iraq, saying that the nation isn't getting an accurate picture of the horrors of war.
In a comprehensive report on Saturday, the Los Angeles Times noted:
"A review of six prominent U.S. newspapers and the nation's two most popular newsmagazines during a recent six-month period found almost no pictures from the war zone of Americans killed in action."
The paper explained:
"Many photographers and editors believe they are delivering Americans an incomplete portrait of the violence that has killed 1,797 U.S. service members and their Western allies and wounded 12,516 Americans."
During World War II, the Roosevelt administration strictly prohibited news outlets from printing photos of dead U.S. soldiers because of the obvious blow it would be to American morale. And the press willingly complied.
The same sensibility largely prevailed during Korea, Vietnam and the First Gulf War.
But with many in today's media opposed to the Iraq war, some say it's time to change the rules.
"There can be horrible images, but war is horrible and we need to understand that," veteran war photographer Chris Hondros told the Times. "I think if we are going to start a war, we ought to be willing to show the consequences of that war."
Pim Van Hemmen, assistant managing editor for photography at the Star-Ledger of Newark, N.J., agreed, telling the Times:
"Writing in a headline that 1,500 Americans have died doesn't give you nearly the impact of showing one serviceman who is dead."
By censoring the photos of GI's as they lay dying, Van Hemmen said, "We in the news business are not doing a very good job of showing our readers what has really happened over there."
Steve Stroud, deputy director of photography at the Los Angeles Times, also thinks the public needs to see more photos of dead American soldiers.
"I feel we still aren't seeing the kind of pictures we need to see to tell the American people about this war and the costs of the war," he explained.
Michele McNally, New York Times director of photography, concurred, observing: "War kills men, women and children, and we would be remiss if we couldn't in some way show that this is what happens in war . . . It's our responsibility to bear witness to these events."
Media support for showing more American bloodshed comes despite the risk that soldiers' families may consider the display a horrible violation of privacy.
Deirdre Sargent, whose husband was deployed to Iraq, recently complained to editors of the News Tribune of Tacoma, Wash., after the paper printed a photo of a dying GI that she said left her "shaking and in tears for hours."
"It was tacky, unprofessional and completely unnecessary," Sargent said.
Executive Editor Dave Zeeck told the Times that he tried to address the complaints in an essay published on Page 2 of the main news section. He explained to readers that he believed the picture, taken by John Moore of the Associated Press, epitomized the sacrifice of the American soldier.
"We not only have the right, but the responsibility to run such photos," Zeeck told the Times.
MSNBC.com posted the same photo to their website, prompting complaints from the dying soldier's family.
"At first we thought it was a really iconic photo of the terrible violence going on in Iraq," MSNBC.com editor in chief Dean Wright told the Times.
But when it turned out the soldier could be identified, Wright took the photo down, saying, "We thought it was too horrific, because it was more personalized then."
Yeah, you stupid sh!ts, and we WON that war. The MSM needs to get the heck out of the way and let the military do it's job.
Wanna know how I really feel?? LOL!
Or of the Kurds and others, who were brutalized by Saddam and his sweet little friends? Or of the people who were tortured in his prisons? Or of the Kuwaitis before the first Gulf War, that were tyrannized, and brutalized by Saddams troops? Or of the women and men who were executed in the soccer stadiums by the great Osama Bin Laden(sp?) and his little empire in Afghanistan? Or the Afghan women being beaten and pelted with stones, if they dared to leave their homes without a burkha on, or a man with them, even to take a baby to the doctor?
If they're going to crab about not having any gruesome pictures to show us, and scare us into bringing our troops home; they also need to have photos and movies about the treatment of the people of these nations at the hands of their "great, compassionate rulers"! Oh they must!
Seriously, these media figures need to realize that they are only succeeding in influencing weak, squeamish people into going along with them! They are only angering, and insulting the intelligence of other, stronger people! Oh well, I guess if they want to go down the drain, that is their choice.
I guess if that is what they want, is to dwindle down to working their wiles on weak, foolish people, why stop them? They also have no respect for themselves as media entities, or for the families of the troops, or for the weak people who are so easily fooled, or the rest of us who know better!
During World War II, the Roosevelt administration strictly prohibited news outlets from printing photos of dead U.S. soldiers because of the obvious blow it would be to American morale. And the press willingly compliedThis was also when Hollywood was on Americas side also. Joe McCarthy was right.........
...that they won't use..
(may the editors rot in hell with their muslim brethren)
Nah. What we need is more pictures of dead MSM journalists. :-)
Bump
I see Hanoi Kerry and Hanoi Jane's involvement in this.
It will keep getting worse until the GOP controlled Senate gets rid of the illegal, traitor in the US Senate.
John Kerry was dishonorably dismissed from the Navy:
(statement from lawyers there at the time)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1406760/posts
Whoever in the US Senate that gave Hanoi Kerry
a Top Secret Clearance HAS seen all his military records.
The FBI, since 9/11, does non military clearances.
His most recent one who have been in the spring/summer of '04
when he won the dims's nomination against President Bush.
NO ONE gets a Top Secret Clearance WITHOUT agreeing to have all your records released.
OR pass a FULL FBI check when someone
runs for the highest elected
office in th ecountry.
Does the DC crowd think "We the People" are stupid?
Uphold the US Constituion!
Too bad the "Move On" FReepers just don't understand
the real threat that the likes of Hanoi Kerry pose to our country.
I just don't understand their reasoning in saying
"drop it", "your wasting your time", "give it up" etc.
Some even howl when I remind them the job is NOT done.
Kerry Outs Undercover Intelligence Agent in Bolton Hearing
C-SPAN 04/11/2005
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1381586/posts
"Kerry cites voter intimidation examples
CNN ^ | 4-10-05
BOSTON, Massachusetts (AP)
Many voters in last year's presidential election were denied access to the polls
through trickery and intimidation, former Democratic presidential candidate
John Kerry told a voters' group Sunday."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1381116/posts
Kerry E-Mail Concerning Judicial Nominees
April 1, 2005
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1375683/posts
Hanoi Kerry Veterans Group Calls on Congress
to Impeach George W. Bush and Richard Cheney
April 3, 2005
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1376873/posts
Well I have news for them.
I've been posting threads
on the Viet Nam anti war "crowd"
almost from day one on FR.
Wicked Witch of the West: Hanoi Jane Exposed in New Book
Hanoijane.net ^ | HENRY MARK HOLZER and ERIKA HOLZER,PhilDragoo
Posted on 10/30/2001 10:05:08 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/560260/posts
So why do they think I'll stop now?
Don't be like the Silent Majority in the 60's and 70's
Demand Kerry be ousted from the US Senate!
There is no need to impeach Hanoi Kerry from the US Senate
He is there illegally!
WAKEUP AMERICA!
For those who "forgot" what Hanoi Kerry
did in the past read on and learn the truth.
Hanoi Kerry was still a USNR officer while he:
gave false hearsay testimony to Congress
negotiated with the enemy
helped the US lose a war
abetted in the deaths of millions
created a hostile environment for all servicemen
Why is Kerry still in the US Senate?
This is in violation of
U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxiv.html
And the FBI has proof of his treason.
Hanoi Kerry Timeline of a traitor
includes FBI files
May 1970
Kerry and Julia traveled to Paris, France and met with Madame Nguyen Thi Binh, the Foreign Minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam (PRG), the political wing of the Vietcong, and other Viet Cong and Communist Vietnamese representatives to the Paris peace talks, a trip he now calls a "fact-finding" mission.
(U.S. code 18 U.S.C. 953, declares it illegal for a U.S. citizen to go abroad and negotiate with a foreign power.)
http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html
a) A person charged with absence without leave or missing movement in time of war,
or with any offense punishable by death,
may be tried at any time without limitation.
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm#*%20843.%20ART.%2043.%20STATUTE%20OF%20LIMITATIONS
Contact the GOP controlled US Senate!
Distribute these url's!
Links to Anti Kerry sites
212 LINKS
News reports,
Viper's Vietnam Veterans Page
http://members.aol.com/ga1449ga/links/links.html
EXPOSE HANOI KERRY!
MUST SEE WEBSITE!!!!
http://www.kerrystreason.com/index.html
Full details on these url's!
http://stophanoikerry.150m.com
There is a backup site
if the 1st url is unavailable.
http://tonkin.spymac.net/hanoikerry1.html
Did you see this...?
(The 'Kerry's Promise Counter')
http://polipundit.com/index.php?p=6628
Polipundit even tells you how to install it on your own page!
Where are those pictures from? Indonesia? The Phillipines?
My thought as well...God help us....
Nam Vet
One hundred percent agreement. The traitors have some really heavy bills to pay. I'm warning the leading example traitor, cronkite, he better keep his gravesite secret because the uric acid will never let the grass grow green. His minions are going to get theirs, too. I'm looking forward to it!
They what is their excuse for not running pictures of dead journalists?
It is in Beslan, in the southern Russian region of North Ossetia, near Chechnya. Muslims killed hundreds of children.
This is how the media effectively killed support of Vietnam: they showed gruesome footage every night with Walter Kronkite moaning about how awful, immoral, and unwinnable the war was. Media treachery knows no bounds.
These journalists are anti-American, sick and biased. I am damned tired of it. Boy this really burns my ass.
Your post is DEAD ON.
The Silent Majority of the VN war is gone. We are silent no longer. The first picture of one of our guys just may backfire on them. There would be such a furious outcry across the land to kill the enemy by any means necessary...no more Mr Nice Guy. The msm should review this possibility. We are still a violent people when provoked and pictures of our dead will provoke....just not the way they hope.
These people are ghouls. I remember when I was six, and my dad was on his third tour in Vietnam. I would watch the six-o'clock news, and I would see the film of wounded soldiers being taken onto choppers (and yes, I knew it was real).....that scared the hell out of me! For all I knew, my dad could have been one of those men being taken out under fire. All the MSM wants to do is destroy morale at home. We all know that the first rule of warfare is that young men die, and the second rule is that commanders can't change the first rule....why make it harder on the families to perhaps have to see their sons, brothers or fathers die on CNN? As I said, these "journalists" are just sick, depraved ghouls!
People just aren't buying the anti-war crap anymore.
How about "GIs want more pictures of dead media"?
nope, from the school in North Ossetian town of Beslan that the "Muslims" took over and blew up with kids and women inside. ..... just like it says to do in the book that they worship... Korantoilet paper.
anybody that sides with them, helps them, passes propaganda for them is a supporter of the beheaders of men, the killers of children and the murderers of innocent civilians at work.
screw them, screw liberals and screw the main street media enablers. The Democrats must be so proud of who they side with in our war.... oh yeah that's right.... they support the troops but oppose the war....
bunch of a'holes.
I'd rather they just step aside, cross their legs, hold their water and sit like the little chicken sh#t b$tches they are.... and let the men in this country kill our enemies and protect us.
liberals blow goats......'nuff said.
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