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Clinton Called Not a Target in Rosen Trial
NY Sun ^ | May 11, 2005 | JOSH GERSTEIN

Posted on 05/11/2005 3:03:26 AM PDT by The Raven

LOS ANGELES - As the trial of a top fund-raising official on Senator Clinton's 2000 campaign got under way in federal court here yesterday, the judge hearing the case vowed not to allow the proceedings to become a referendum on Mrs. Clinton, her politics, or her personal life.

"This isn't a trial about Senator Clinton," Judge A. Howard Matz said, as lawyers discussed written questionnaires filled out by potential jurors in the case. "Senator Clinton has no stake in this trial as a party or a principal. ... She's not going to be a witness," the judge said.

David Rosen, 40, who served as Mrs. Clinton's national finance director, is charged with hiding the true costs of a star-studded fund-raising concert that took place in Los Angeles on August 12, 2000. He faces three counts of causing false reports to be filed with the Federal Election Commission and has pleaded not guilty.

Judge Matz said he plans to stress to jurors that they should set aside their views about the former first lady. "She's not in the loop in any direct way, and that's something the jury will be told," the judge said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; david; davidrosen; dear; financial; fraud; friend; fundraiser; gala; hillary; hillaryscandal; hillaryscandals; impeachedx42; judicialwatchjinx; paul; peter; president; rosen; scam; x42
Please put negative comments here --> OFFICIAL NOTHING WILL EVER HAPPEN TO HILLARY THREAD
1 posted on 05/11/2005 3:03:26 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: The Raven
"This isn't a trial about Senator Clinton," Judge A. Howard Matz said, as lawyers discussed written questionnaires filled out by potential jurors in the case. "Senator Clinton has no stake in this trial as a party or a principal. ... She's not going to be a witness," the judge said.

I have but one thign to say to clinton, snowe, collins, kerry, kennedy, warner, etc. A man, woman or child lives has once to live and then the microsecond of death comes the judgement of GOD. Hebrews 9:27(?)

2 posted on 05/11/2005 3:31:44 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: The Raven
Judge Matz said he would also strive to keep views about President Clinton out of the case. "They're both in the position of not being involved here." Judge Matz was appointed by Mr. Clinton in 1998....

Judge Matz said he also does not expect Mr. Rosen's lawyers to call Paul or Tonken as witnesses. Rather, the judge said he expects-and will allow-the defense attorneys to use "an empty chair defense," where the defendants argue that a party not before the court was responsible for the crime.

The government has asserted that by understating expenses and in-kind donations to the fund-raiser, Mr. Rosen hoped to increase the money Mrs. Clinton's campaign would receive. The Justice Department has indicated that the investigation into the episode has concluded and no further indictments are expected.

You'd think the good judge would recuse himself....

3 posted on 05/11/2005 3:48:52 AM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball!)
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To: The Raven

This trial doesn't have to be about Clinton, but the facts coming out of it may lead to a new trial about her (I hope, I hope).


5 posted on 05/11/2005 4:03:24 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: The Raven; doug from upland

Judge says Hillary is not going to be a target in this case.


6 posted on 05/11/2005 4:06:38 AM PDT by Peach
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To: The Raven
"She's not in the loop in any direct way, and that's something the jury will be told," the judge said.

The judge has to say that. If anything else happens, Rosen walks in a mistrial. Some elements in the press will try to spin these kinds of statements as if the judge has examined evidence about Hillary and is declaring her innocent. No such thing has happened. Matz is just trying to keep extraneous hoo-hah out of a trial that's about Rosen.

This is good news. It actually increases the pressure on Rosen to do his best canary impression.


7 posted on 05/11/2005 4:09:34 AM PDT by Nick Danger (Honey, Intel wants to go outside)
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To: The Raven

Hillary may not be the target, but how can she avoid being a witness. Unless Rosen cops to the whole thing he should in any case be asked what Hillary knew and when did she know it. This case looks like it is a farce. How can someone who got the benefit of this mans theft not be asked about her part in it. ? This is crazy. Who the hell is Hillary that she isnt charged as a co-conspirator?


8 posted on 05/11/2005 4:12:02 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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This is crazy. Who the hell is Hillary that she isnt charged as a co-conspirator?

Before DOJ charges a prominent politician, especially of the opposition party, they will want to have Rostenkowski-grade evidence in hand. They don't have that yet. So the offical line is, "We have no plans to charge Hillary."

If as the trial unfolds, Rosen sees that he's headed for the slammer, things could change. Right now the Clintons' lawyers are whispering in his ear that he has nothing to worry about. He'll make his own decision about that after seeing what the government has on him. He can cop a plea right up to the last minute. If he turns and fingers Hillary (or as I suspect, Bill), things could get interesting. They'll have to put him on Arkancide watch if that happens.


9 posted on 05/11/2005 4:21:49 AM PDT by Nick Danger (Honey, Intel wants to go outside)
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To: The Raven; MurryMom; Liz; Howlin
Found this gem on the web -

By Paul Chavez, Associated Press

It is not the first time a Clinton's campaign has been under scrutiny for alleged fundraising violations President Clinton's 1996 campaign was dogged by allegations of illegal fundraising from overseas donors.

How can it be 'alleged' or 'allegations' if the impeached *Crinton administration had to return the illegal loot?

10 posted on 05/11/2005 5:10:30 AM PDT by Libloather (Start Hillary's recount now - just to get it out of the way...)
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To: Nick Danger

This stinks having a Clinton-appointed judge.


11 posted on 05/11/2005 6:16:59 AM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: doug from upland

Yeah it does. It leaves the door open for speculation (or more) that the system is being gamed.


12 posted on 05/11/2005 7:32:47 AM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball!)
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To: freebilly
the judge said he expects-and will allow-the defense attorneys to use "an empty chair defense," where the defendants argue that a party not before the court was responsible for the crime.

It would be very convenient to pin this on someone who's no longer alive.

Watch your six, Peter Paul....

13 posted on 05/11/2005 7:35:17 AM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball!)
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..Watch your six, Peter Paul..

Yes.If Rosen turns over on Hillary! in a deal with the feds, to save himself, it could be embarassing or even damaging depending on what he has to say. But if she and all the flying monkeys call him a liar, and there is no real documentary evidence, she won't be indicted let alone convicted. This is just a kind of en-passent problem for her. Annoying, but she can see her way clear.

Peter Paul's civil suit is what the Clintons really have to worry about. His lawyers can present documentary evidence she can't really explain. They can call witnesses that owe her nothing and don't fear her.

14 posted on 05/11/2005 8:03:38 AM PDT by MrNatural (..".You want the truth?!"...)
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To: The Raven

how can the judge make that statement ? If anyone mentions her name, she can be called as a witness.
What is most puzzling is, if Rosen rolls on her, the trial WILL be about her.


15 posted on 05/11/2005 9:44:50 AM PDT by stylin19a ( Social Security...neither social nor secure.)
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To: doug from upland

When you read the entire article it's clear the judge is a mouthpiece for the Clintons. Matz declares that Peter Paul is a "con artist" and has no credibility. In the face of overwhelming evidence the Clinton game plan is to destroy their accusers and deny culpability. We've seen this game plan over and over....


16 posted on 05/11/2005 10:59:57 AM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball!)
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