Posted on 04/27/2005 1:55:02 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
Mark Pryor, the junior senator from Arkansas, may not make the news very often, but when he does say something newsworthy, it's a doozy. The other day, he strongly objected to those religious fanatics (fa-nat-ics -- anyone who disagrees with you strongly) who have campaigned against the never-ending filibuster that denies the president's judicial nominees a straight up-or-down vote in the U.S. Senate. Mark Pryor wasn't so much challenging these folks' political views but their daring to express them. It's unbecoming, you see, for church people to participate in the low rough-and-tumble of politics. Their tactics, he says, could "make the followers of Jesus Christ just another special interest group."
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Don't do this.
This fight over judges is a fight for all Americans against activist liberal justices, This is not just a fight for fundamentalist Christians.
You turn this solely into a Religious right issue, we will lose big time.
An activist liberal judge is a very religious person. To claim he or she is not is to not know how they live day to day, or choose to ignore it if they do know about it. Secular humanism is the fastest growing religion today in the USA. And they voted overwhelmingly, like more than 80 percent, for democrats.
I am a son of a not famous 'activist liberal'. I watched her and her peers during the sixties do many things and say many things.
But it is only after I became a follower of Christ that she got utterly outraged with me. Why? Competition. What was not openly discussed was that the leftist tradition is flat out steeped in a culture of sacrifice ... denying yourself certain things in the name of something bigger than yourself.
You fail to recognize the fight over judges if you are unwilling to know about what they say in the privacy of their wine and cheese shin digs about 'people' and the purpose of people. What they say about 'careers', what they say about animals even.
I promise you: the left is not irreligious. They have a faith, a liturgy ... and the number one thing they fear is faith which competes effectively with theirs.
But, qam1, I am willing to admit I'm misguided in the face of new evidence. This 'religious right folks are toxic to the GOP' argument I have heard many times. Especially from hard core evolutionists who loudly proclaim the GOP is great, but that Creationist Christians will be its downfall unless they are checked.
Interestingly, I have yet to see someone put together three links to political journal articles which thoughtfully and reasonably provide the evidence that the Christians in the GOP are driving fence sitters into the arms of leftists. That explains how the GOP profits and the democrats suffer if the godful GOPers and the godless GOPers both agree that shutting up about God and Christ. Knowing that Christians vote GOP overwhelmingly, why is it a bad thing that we reach out to fence sitters and introduce them to Christ?
Do you have any links which address these points?
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
Sent seven page handwritten note to Colorado's John Salazar
who (like Hanoi John Kerry) served in the Army to defend the freedoms and rights(like same sex marriage) which he considers among the freedoms upon which this nation was founded.Had to tel him he is either woefully Ignorant of
American history--or so full of Shiite his eyes are brown.
Which is a rehash of something Billy Graham said some years ago.But still very relevant.
I will be a FOOL for Jesus any day as opposed to being a Liberal!!!!!!!!!!!
Christians are taking criticism from many fronts these days. Funny thing is, the same people making the accusations and criticisms wouldn't dream of saying the same things about Jews or Muslims.
I look at it as being where we should be as Christians: at odds with the "world". As my old pastor used to say, if the devil isn't bothering you, it's because you are walking with him.
Very well said.
The Constitution of the US is based on Judeo-Christian Values.
The only way we will lose if we go your way the cowards way and ignore our Judeo-Christian heritage!
Dont give us that typical leftist argument of 205 Judges approved. Most of those Judges are either registered Dems or RINOS that Bush knew could get through the Rats filibuster. Please name one conservative judge that the Senate has approved since Bush became President?
Dont give us that typical leftist argument of 205 Judges approved. Most of those Judges are either registered Dems or RINOS that Bush knew could get through the Rats filibuster. Please name one conservative judge that the Senate has approved since Bush became President?
" The Constitution of the US is based on Judeo-Christian Values."
Really? Where does the bible or the torah say how old a person has to be to hold office? Or what the job of Congress is?
Many of our laws are based on Judeo-Christian values, but not the US Constitution. It is a fine line between legislating those moral traditions which help society continue and legislating morals that force people to live their lives a certain way. The US also has a tradition of letting people live their lives as they see fit.
Our rights come from our Creator not the government as Leftists will have you believe.
It is a fine line between legislating those moral traditions which help society continue and legislating morals that force people to live their lives a certain way.
We do force people to live a certain way in our society. Can gay people sodomize marriage for their own pursuits?
Can pedophiles express their sexuality? Or what about beastality? Do we allow Polygomy?
" Our rights come from our Creator not the government as Leftists will have you believe."
Sure if you believe in a creator. That does not change the fact that the Constitution is not steeped in Judeo-Christian tradition.
Gay marriage is the key issue on this one. How does letting two consenting adults marry (or 4 or 5 I think polygamy should be legal as well) negatively affect society as a whole? Pedophiles by the way do not act on their sexual preference. They are the equivalent of celibate gays. All the same pederasts and those who desire sex with animals are not pursuing their perversions with consenting adults and that is where the line should be.
This nation was not founded by athiests. You are allowed to be an athiest or be religious because we are a country founded on Judeo-Christian values. Countries founded on athiesm do not give you that choice.
Gay marriage is the key issue on this one. How does letting two consenting adults marry (or 4 or 5 I think polygamy should be legal as well) negatively affect society as a whole?
Homosexuals have deviant lifestyles that go against nature. It is unhealthy for a society to embrace that type of lifestyle and will only lead to promiscuity and spread disease.
Polygomy disrupts our social order similar to gay marriage. Just look at history, which leftists love to IGNORE, societies that have polygomy or homosexualism destroy themselves.
All the same pederasts and those who desire sex with animals are not pursuing their perversions with consenting adults and that is where the line should be.
Why is the line drawn their? Where do you get the knowledge to draw the line their? If gay marriage and polygomy why not pedophilia and beastality?
We get our knowledge that these are wrong through our Judeo-Christian heritage and history!
Some of our founders were indeed Christian. What does that have to do with the order of our government? There are traditions involved with government that are Christian in nature, but they are not found in the Constitution. Show me one clause that can clearly be shown to come from the bible.
We have already embraced homosexuality. Since we are already on our way out according to you, we might as well try to live up to our creed and give everyone the right to marry who they desire.
The majority of Christians I know are promisuious as well, and more then a few have had weddings with their baby on the front row. So I say Christianity leads to promiscuity and disease, should we not allow people to practice religion?
I like how we know that polygamy and homosexuality will destroy us because it says so in a book that is against those things. "It's in the book WE wrote. Look it up." That isn't the most convincing thing.
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