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9-11 Conspiracy Fact & Fiction - (detailed refutation of gov't "conspiracy" on 9/11; superb photos)
THE NEW AMERICAN.COM ^ | MAY 2, 2005 | WILLIAM F. JASPER

Posted on 04/23/2005 8:01:34 PM PDT by CHARLITE

An abundance of sensational and irrational conjecture about the September 11 terrorist attacks is being used to discredit any consideration of conspiracy in general.

"The truth is out there." So went the tagline of the popular TV sci-fi series, The X-Files. Sometimes it can seem that the truth is way "out there," as one tries to sift through the confusion of conflicting statements of government officials, mainstream media organizations, alternative media outlets, witnesses, experts, and so-called experts.

This is certainly the case regarding the terrorist events of September 11, 2001. Of the four coordinated events — the two attacks on the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York, the attack on the Pentagon, and the crash in rural Pennsylvania — almost every significant official finding presented as fact has been subjected to challenge by a host of critics. The government has invited (even incited, it can be argued) suspicion by refusing to release evidence even to congressional committees and continuing the pattern of secrecy and coverup that we have seen in past administrations concerning such events as the 1991 Ruby Ridge shootout, the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, and the 1996 downing of TWA Flight 800.

However, many of those disputing the official version of the 9/11 attacks have chosen, oddly enough, to challenge some of the government's most solid evidence and to do so with flimsy evidence of their own, often accompanied with sensational, irrational conjecture. Some of the most popularly disseminated 9/11 scenarios assert, for instance, that the Pentagon and the Twin Towers were not hit by the hijacked commercial airliners, but by missiles and/or military planes.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2001; 911; 911conspiracy; conspiracy; conspiracytheory; military; missiles; pentagon; september11; thenewamerican; usgovt; wtc

Flight 77 debris: Since Flight 77 penetrated into the Pentagon, there was not much debris outside of the building. However, the American Airlines wreckage in the photo above is additional proof that the plane, not a missile, hit the building. [Source: Navy News Stand]

1 posted on 04/23/2005 8:01:39 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

Popular Mechanics also debunked the 9/11 myths:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html


2 posted on 04/23/2005 8:07:25 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: CHARLITE
Distract and discredit: Wild speculation distracts Americans from real issues of coverup and complicity in the 9/11 attacks and discredits all mention of conspiracy. [Source: Navy News Stand]

Evidently the author(s) believe there is some sort of coverup or conspiracy? Kooks in denial!

3 posted on 04/23/2005 8:09:08 PM PDT by Kinky (Yeah.)
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To: Kinky

There _was_ a conspiracy: a group of Islamist terrorists conspired to attack America, and (unfortunately) succeeded in killing thousands of people. Why the kooks have to find a _different_ conspiracy is a mystery to me.


4 posted on 04/23/2005 8:11:12 PM PDT by Trimegistus
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To: Kinky
Evidently the author(s) believe there is some sort of coverup or conspiracy?

I personally don't discount at all the notion that there was some cover-up of government incompetence surrounding 9/11 (I still can't get over Condoleeza Rice claiming that no one had anticipated an attack of this nature). But as for direct involvement in the attacks, I don't think there's any evidence of that.

5 posted on 04/23/2005 8:14:00 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: CHARLITE

here's a link to that nutjob cnn reporter's clip:

http://www.global-conspiracies.com/cnn_reported_no_plane_hit_pentagon.htm



6 posted on 04/23/2005 8:14:59 PM PDT by isom35
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To: LibFreeOrDie
Popular Mechanics isn't exactly impartial on this one though, they have ties to the new Homeland Security Chief.(I think the editor is a family member)

That being said, it kills me when the tin foil hatters hew and cry that a plane would have made a bigger hole in the Pentagon if it flew into it. That's probably true, except it was, is , and has always been reported that the plane hit the ground and slid/slammed into the building.

7 posted on 04/23/2005 8:17:06 PM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: Trimegistus
"Why the kooks have to find a different conspiracy is a mystery to me."

Exactly, but they do it with every big event. It's like worms breaking up out of the earth and crawling around, after a heavy rain. There are always conspiracy theorists. World class jerks like Michael Moore make big bucks at the conspiracy game.

8 posted on 04/23/2005 8:17:18 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys............so now I have to walk everywhere.......)
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To: infidel29
Lamp posts taken out by Flight 77 were too far apart to have been done by a missile or a fighter jet, say witnesses and experts, including General Benton K. Partin. [Source: Library of Congress]

I really don't need any convincing, but this is pure fact, if someone wants to stubbornly cling to the "missile hit Pentagon" theory.


9 posted on 04/23/2005 8:23:42 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys............so now I have to walk everywhere.......)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
In this picture, the plane is less than 650 milliseconds (.65 seconds) from impact, which is less time than one heartbeat.


10 posted on 04/23/2005 8:25:06 PM PDT by HighWheeler (A culture of civility can't be established if truth's irrelevant to one side of the political debate)
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To: CHARLITE
Here is another analysis of the 757 strike on the Pentagon on 9/11/01
11 posted on 04/23/2005 8:27:52 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Texas_Jarhead

12 posted on 04/23/2005 8:28:51 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: CHARLITE

Mark for later


13 posted on 04/23/2005 8:33:34 PM PDT by Deetes (Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick)
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To: CHARLITE

BTTT


14 posted on 04/23/2005 8:34:05 PM PDT by SweetCaroline (Politicans and Diapers need changing often and for the same reason!)
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To: infidel29
"...it kills me when the tin foil hatters hew and cry that a plane would have made a bigger hole in the Pentagon if it flew into it. That's probably true..."

Most people do not grasp the scale of the Pentagon.
15 posted on 04/23/2005 8:39:59 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: CHARLITE
"General Benton K. Partin...

Mr. Partin was, I believe, in charge of every non-nuclear munition in the entire United States arsenal at one time.

He also said stated in his report concerning the Oklahoma City bombing that what everyone "knew" to be true concerning the truck bomb was pure bunk.

16 posted on 04/23/2005 8:49:51 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: CHARLITE

"past administrations concerning such events as the 1991 Ruby Ridge shootout, the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, and the 1996 downing of TWA Flight 800."

Past Administrations??? Plural there...those dates all coincide with one administration if my math is correct...
Unfortunately for America it was the wrong administration to have in power at those times.


17 posted on 04/23/2005 8:52:39 PM PDT by FlashBack (www.teamamericapac.org)
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To: CHARLITE

Best most complese description of the engineering, impact and collapse of the WTC towers:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1383862/posts

http://wtc.nist.gov/


18 posted on 04/23/2005 8:55:30 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: inquest

I meant conspiracies about missiles or our own F-16s shooting down the plane in Pennsylvania, or some of the other assorted "way out there" imaginations described in the report.

As for government incompetence? I suppose there could be a coverup of that. Business as usual for politicians.


19 posted on 04/23/2005 9:00:27 PM PDT by Kinky (Yeah.)
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To: Reactionary
He also said stated in his report concerning the Oklahoma City bombing that what everyone "knew" to be true concerning the truck bomb was pure bunk.

In a report that IIRC failed to mention that the blast pattern at OKC can be very well explained by the alcove that was facing the blast.

20 posted on 04/23/2005 9:13:45 PM PDT by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: CHARLITE

I agree, but what is so frustrating is why weren't photos such as posted in #1 released early on? I'll tell you why: there is a mindset in law enforcement and other "authorities" that only they should be in the know, that us "underlings" can't handle it. I got sick of that attitude after 31 years in that business. Another attitude is that once someone graduates from whichever LE academy (choose one) and pins a badge on, he becomes an instant expert in all matters, some of you know what I'm talking about.

Thanks for these photos and sources Freepers!


22 posted on 04/23/2005 10:15:34 PM PDT by brushcop
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To: finnman69

Have they ever explained away the molten metal in the basement?


23 posted on 04/24/2005 4:00:16 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423)
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To: B4Ranch
Yes. It's in the report. It was hot enough in the wreckage pile to melt steel. In some areas of the fires it was very hot, others not so much. But remember, the fire in the wreckage pile burned for weeks. Sort of a giant coal fire.

Lots of metallurgical analysis in the reports.
24 posted on 04/24/2005 7:18:23 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: FlashBack
1991 Ruby Ridge shootout,

That was during the Bush administration.

25 posted on 04/24/2005 7:46:40 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: finnman69

I don't suppose there was any mention of Thermite, was there?


26 posted on 04/24/2005 8:03:11 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423)
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To: B4Ranch

One of the sumamries flat out states there was NO evidence of any explosives at the WTC site.


27 posted on 04/24/2005 4:00:04 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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