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For Varied Reasons, 4 Million Americans Call Some Other Country Home
AP ^ | 4-23-2005 | Jerry Schwartz

Posted on 04/23/2005 10:19:48 AM PDT by Cagey

More Americans than ever before have decided that America is no longer their home. They've put down roots abroad, from Cuba (an estimated 2,000 Americans, the latest figures show) to the United Kingdom (224,000). They're in Germany (210,880), in the Philippines (105,000), in Israel (184,195).

If they were a U.S. state - call it Expatria - its population, some 4 million Americans, would place it right in the middle, along with Kentucky and South Carolina.

Expatriates, citizens of this floating, far-flung state, are changing the very definition of "American."

"What does nationality really mean in these days, in these times of great mobility, at a time when there is an opportunity to make one's way in a society without really any serious impediments?" asks Tom Rose, a 68-year-old retired businessman who has spent all but a few years abroad since 1961, most of them in Paris.

Rose and others have forsaken America for many reasons. They fall in love with a foreigner, or with an exotic place or culture. They are looking for an adventure, or for a cheaper place to live. They go because their job is there, or because their heart is no longer here.

Or, like Glen Rubenstein, they have given up on the American political system.

"It seemed too hopeless a future to me," battling for a liberal agenda in a country that has become so conservative, he says. And so last year, he, his wife and their two children gave up their lives in Brooklyn and moved to Montreal.

The Rubenstein family arrived in Canada last June, before some opponents of the Bush administration, embittered by the Republican victory in November, declared that they were going North. Canada already was home to the second largest American community abroad - 687,700 (the largest is Mexico, with 1.04 million).

But moving to Canada - or Italy or Nepal - is not as simple as crossing a border. Like so many others, the Rubensteins are exploring what it means to be both American and not American.

"We're going to be Americans living in Canada in some sense - that will never change, no matter what. We're Americans in our upbringing and experience ... but we want to be part of Canada," says Rubenstein, a 44-year-old community organizer.

Rubenstein is following a trail blazed in the 1960s and '70s by draft resisters who fled to Canada; the number is estimated between 50,000 and 100,000, and about 25,000 remain there today, men in their 50s and 60s who have built new lives.

The disaffected had left the United States before. After World War I, members of the Lost Generation - disillusioned with the war's slaughter, dispirited by America's conservative nature - settled in Europe, particularly in France. The number of Americans living overseas more than doubled, from 55,608 in 1910 to 117,238 in 1920.

But that was a small increase compared with what was to come. In 1940 there were almost 119,000 Americans living overseas; in 1950, there were more than 481,000, and in 1960, 1.37 million.

These were, for the most part, not disgruntled people. In the postwar era, America's muscular economy sent businessmen and their families all over. At the same time, travel became easier, and cheaper, and Americans became more affluent and open to foreign adventure.

Bob Guggenheimer studied medicine in Paris. But in 1948, a love affair ended badly; Paris was too cold and miserable. So he moved to Madrid, where he paid 50 cents to rent an apartment (including room, board and laundry), went to work for International News Service and told the local youngsters that, no, not all Americans carried six-shooters, as they did in the movies.

He's still there, and these days, he's got company. "People are coming over - they're setting up businesses here, they like the way of life," says Guggenheimer, 79.

And not just in Spain:

-Sondra Hausner, a 34-year-old native New Yorker, braves communist insurgents to live in Katmandu, Nepal, where she helps ensure that foreign aid gets to the people who need it. She eats as Nepalis eat - rice and vegetables - and dresses as they do, in a tunic over pants.

"Life is so scripted in America, where people plan their calendar three weeks in advance. Here, life is interesting. ... One has to be creative, spontaneous," she says.

-Craig Carlson, a struggling screenwriter, had split time between Los Angeles and Paris when he moved to the City of Light to open Breakfast in America, a diner in the Latin Quarter.

"One day I found myself in my Paris apartment," he recalls. "I was coming out to go to the market, a piano was playing somewhere inside and church bells were off in the distance and this realization hit me that I don't want to grow old in L.A. It was a very strong feeling and I just knew this was where I wanted to be."

-In 1966, singer Barbara Dane went to Cuba for a monthlong concert tour. When Fidel Castro came to her hotel to thank her, Dane responded with a request: Might her 14-year-old son Pablo, an aspiring guitarist, study at the famed Escuela Nacional de Arte?

His stay was supposed to last a year, but plans changed. He fell in love with a 19-year-old Cuban woman and married her. He built a musical career, traveling the world with his Afro-Cuban fusion band Mezcla, but always returning to Havana.

"After a number of years, it really boiled down to the point of when the plane landed in Havana, (I felt) like I was coming home," he says. "And at a certain point, I can't remember when it was, that's what happened."

-Charles and Jeanne Manfredi retired and left California for a European adventure that was expected to last about five years. Twenty-one years later, they still live in Sorrento, eating farfalle at a favorite trattoria, sniffing the orange blossoms of an afternoon stroll.

"It's a great antidote for the American disease of instant gratifications. You slow down and eventually things 'arrange themselves,' as Italians say here," Charles says.

Still, Italy is not paradise for all of the expats who have settled there.

Rome is "unlivable, very complicated" - the streets full of obstacles, the locals cool to foreigners, the cost of sending kids to private American schools high, says Andrea Lorenzetti.

Why does she stay? Thirty years ago, she married an Italian man, and they've lived there ever since. She recalls meeting an American woman who explained that she lived in Rome because she was married to an Italian man who died 14 years ago.

"And I said, 'And you're still here? I would leave the day after the funeral,'" she says.

Phyllis Michaux, too, married a European, a Frenchman, after World War II. She did not give much thought to the ramifications of moving to Paris.

"I was marrying this guy who looked like David Niven - that's all I knew," she says.

She is 82 now, and aside from five years when she moved back to the Washington area, she has lived in Paris ever since. The suave man of her dreams died months ago.

She raised two children in France. In those days, children who had one American parent had to spend five consecutive years in America between the ages 14 and 28 to retain their citizenship; circumstances intervened, and Michaux's children never did.

"I wanted my children to be American," she says. "Because it's part of me."

Lucy Laederich also raised two children in France. They're now adults, and their sense of their own nationality is complicated. She speaks English to them, and they sometimes speak French in response.

"My daughter said to me not long ago that she really was not - and this was devastating to me - but she was not comfortable speaking to me in English, because she doesn't feel like herself," says Laederich, 60, who has lived in France for three decades.

"I would have loved for them to have had more of an American experience. I am deeply, profoundly American - I would never become French."

Others say that while they may not become French or Thai or English, they are no longer entirely American, either.

"Can I really be corny?" asks Sharon Minetta, 56, who has lived in England for much of the past 25 years, and as a textile conservator has even worked on a sail from Horatio Nelson's flagship from the Battle of Trafalgar.

"There's a Neil Diamond song that said, 'L.A.'s fine but it ain't home, New York's home but it ain't mine no more,' and that's sort of true. Over here I feel very much that I am an American but when I go home sometimes, sadly - because I love my country very much - I don't feel that I belong there very much anymore."

Rose, the retired businessman living in Paris, finds that he has lost touch with American television personalities and the like - "certain finer points about the culture begin to escape you because you just haven't been living with them. And the culture is changing all the time."

But American culture is everywhere these days, and some expats say they are constantly reminded of their nationality.

"It's the worst: It's the generalization of a generalization," says Sherrie Morreall Gavin, 33, who moved to Melbourne, Australia, from upstate New York three years ago. "It's like, 'Oh I know what you think because you're American, and all Americans think alike,' even the little things, like, we all like Diet Coke."

There are other times when expatriates feel American precisely because little attention is paid to their nationality.

"I felt a lot of anger after Sept. 11," says Peter Derheimer, a 49-year-old native of Fort Wayne, Ind., who has been a timpanist with the Royal Seville Symphony since 1991.

The orchestra was scheduled to play three days after the terrorist attacks, but there were no plans to mark the tragedies.

Derheimer felt the need to do something. So when the orchestra tuned up, before the conductor came on stage, "I tuned up to 'The Star-Spangled Banner' - bing, bi bing, bing bing bing... And the trombone player who is American turned around and smiled at me. And the Russian concert master looked at me - like, 'What the hell are you up to?'"

Then, last year, when terrorists bombed commuter trains in Madrid, killing 191 and wounding more than 1,500, Derheimer joined the millions who demonstrated in Seville, to express his support of the Spanish people and their fight against terrorism.

"I went - and I walked out with an American flag pin on my lapel," he says.


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1 posted on 04/23/2005 10:19:49 AM PDT by Cagey
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To: Cagey

"""What does nationality really mean in these days, in these times of great mobility, at a time when there is an opportunity to make one's way in a society without really any serious impediments?" asks Tom Rose,""


Globalisation and multiculturalism! YAY! (sarcasm)


2 posted on 04/23/2005 10:21:58 AM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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""Lucy Laederich also raised two children in France. They're now adults, and their sense of their own nationality is complicated. She speaks English to them, and they sometimes speak French in response.

"My daughter said to me not long ago that she really was not - and this was devastating to me - but she was not comfortable speaking to me in English, because she doesn't feel like herself," says Laederich, 60, who has lived in France for three decades.

"I would have loved for them to have had more of an American experience. I am deeply, profoundly American - I would never become French." """



Yet, you have lived there for 30 years?


3 posted on 04/23/2005 10:23:27 AM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

I'm waiting for you to blast Glen Rubenstein. Hurry up! Hahahaha


4 posted on 04/23/2005 10:24:53 AM PDT by Cagey
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To: Cagey

Why don't they cover the Philippines? Because the frou-frou reporter only knows wine snobs and draft dodgers.


5 posted on 04/23/2005 10:25:49 AM PDT by ikka
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To: Cagey

I knew a Eastern-European who moved to the US and eventually became a citizen. Once he said something to me such as since he was able to live in Germany for a few years, if Germany ever asked him to fight in a war, he'd go with no hesitation. Then he repeatedly slammed Bush and the War on Terror and quoted Michael Moore to me. Repeatedly, I asked him why he didn't just take his US education and go back to Germany or some other European country seeing as how he identified much better with them. For some reason, he never answered.


6 posted on 04/23/2005 10:29:50 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: Cagey

I think its great if people have the courage to move abroad and try something new. I don't believe most leave because of politics. If anything, they leave for adventure, for something different. Who could blame someone for retiring to some inexpensive place like Thailand or wherever?


7 posted on 04/23/2005 10:31:12 AM PDT by floridavoter2
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To: Cagey



Wait, wait


""-In 1966, singer Barbara Dane went to Cuba for a monthlong concert tour. When Fidel Castro came to her hotel to thank her, Dane responded with a request: Might her 14-year-old son Pablo, an aspiring guitarist, study at the famed Escuela Nacional de Arte?"""

THAT Fidel is such a sweetheart! Awwww.



His stay was supposed to last a year, but plans changed. He fell in love with a 19-year-old Cuban woman and married her. He built a musical career, traveling the world with his Afro-Cuban fusion band Mezcla, but always returning to Havana. ""


I have an idea~ Maybe, we can start a foreign exchange program!
For every 20000 cubans that immigrate here- we send over 1 liberal!


8 posted on 04/23/2005 10:34:06 AM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: Cagey
At least those of us who stay will have a say in our country's destiny.

We can become either North Mexico or New Islamic Sh$%hole.

It's good to have freedom of choice.

9 posted on 04/23/2005 10:38:24 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: floridavoter2
I don't believe most leave because of politics. If anything, they leave for adventure, for something different.

That's my impression too.

10 posted on 04/23/2005 10:47:48 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Cagey

Being a good American depends on knowing television personalities? If that's the case, I guess I'm not a good American...but then, neither were George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, or Theodore Roosevelt.


11 posted on 04/23/2005 10:49:16 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Cagey
I, personally, lived overseas primarily for the learning/adventure aspect. It was not easy in that I had to find my own jobs and learn my own way instead of having a big company pay for everything (and then many people like that that I knew complained about the country they were in even though they were living so well compared to everyone else).

I wish more people had an opportunity (or took a chance) and lived for a while overseas to give them a better idea of possibilities - especially in the areas of differing government policies. I lived in the Netherlands as well as Hong Kong and could easily see the advantages and disadvantages of different tax systems, bureaucracies, etc. Though I am generally a consumption tax advocate, the low flat tax in Hong Kong and its surpluses (until the last 7 years with the financial crisis) should be an eye opener to those that believe the "it's only for the rich" tripe.

One bad thing about living overseas is that you are taxed based on nationality - not residence - like almost every other country. So, I am liable for tax in the US and the country in which I live. Of course there are exclusions (about mid 80s now) and tax treaties for some countries but it is a problem given that most economies have adjusted to the average disposable income of the population - so in Hong Kong things are expensive (apt. of 500' can be about US$1400) but they have a low tax rate. Anyway... getting carried away.
12 posted on 04/23/2005 10:57:58 AM PDT by IntlObserver
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To: Hank Rearden

LOL! So very true!


13 posted on 04/23/2005 11:13:50 AM PDT by aQ_code_initiate
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To: EveningStar
"I don´t believe most leave because of politics. If anything, they leave for adventure, for something different."

Your right. I live in Panama because I like the climate, I can do something year round. I like the costs of living, I can live comfortably on my retirement check. I served my country in one form or another for 37 years and I still love America. As a military retiree if I were called back to active duty to serve in Iraq or Afghanistan I would kiss mama goodbye and go.
14 posted on 04/23/2005 11:18:26 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Cagey
Glen Rubenstein? I notice he is a "community organizer" by profession. Big demand for that in Canada.
15 posted on 04/23/2005 11:32:28 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: IntlObserver

I know nothing of the Greek people, but have been interested in history for many years. I have dreamed of living in Greece, among the people, and learning its history. Or maybe it was the sunshine and beautiful towns I've seen in the movies.


16 posted on 04/23/2005 11:33:50 AM PDT by wizr (Freedom ain't free.)
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To: IntlObserver
I've been in Iraq for over 13 months. I don't mind it so much. America's too liberal.

"I wish more people had an opportunity (or took a chance) and lived for a while overseas to give them a better idea of possibilities - especially in the areas of differing government policies.

Differing government policies? I'm there man, I'm there.

17 posted on 04/23/2005 11:34:57 AM PDT by Justa (Politically Correct is morally wrong.)
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To: Americanexpat; EveningStar; floridavoter2; Cagey; Hank Rearden
If anything, they leave for adventure, for something different...

Anything off the AP should be posted with a barf alert.  Only the MSM libs could even think of hinting that all 4 million expats are liberal-- and only on the Freerepublic will you find patsies to believe them.  

There's the better part of a million overseas deployed military.   They didn't all vote for Kerry.   There's also say, a six-figure bunch of missionaries.  Missionaries for Clinton?  Give me a break.   A big part of the remainder are Americans going overseas selling things- ah yes those Benedict-Arnold-CEO's that are lowering our trade deficit. 

The Freerepublic patsies love the idea of all expats being liberal-- it fits well into their delusional self righteousness.

18 posted on 04/23/2005 11:56:53 AM PDT by expat_panama (I need to sit a beath into a paper bag...)
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My tag line was supposed to read "I need to sit and breath into a paper bag...."

Talk about your hyperventilating.   I'm going out and chop down a tree.

19 posted on 04/23/2005 12:03:37 PM PDT by expat_panama (I need to sit a beath into a paper bag...)
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I don't think all ex-pats are liberal by any means. I do, however, think the MSM would like you to think they are all liberals...remember all the reports of Americans fleeing to Canada after Bushs re-election? People leave because the world is much, much smaller than it used in the sense that living/working/retiring abroad is a very plausible option. I love the U.S. but I certainly don't blame people for giving in to that adventurous side of themselves. In fact, I envy it! :-)


20 posted on 04/23/2005 12:04:17 PM PDT by floridavoter2
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