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FBI Waited to Check Out Tip on Nichols - OKC
AP ^ | April 14, 2005

Posted on 04/15/2005 2:08:15 PM PDT by Shermy

WASHINGTON - The FBI initially dismissed a tip that convicted bomber Terry Nichols had hidden explosives and they might be used for an attack this month coinciding with the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing.

While the FBI has found no evidence supporting the idea that an attack is in the works for the April 19 tenth anniversary, the information that explosives had been hidden in Nichols' former home in Herington, Kan., turned out to be true.

The tip came from imprisoned mobster Gregory Scarpa Jr., 53, a law enforcement official said this week. Scarpa is an inmate in the same maximum-security federal prison in Florence, Colo., where Nichols is serving life sentences for his role in the 1995 bombing of the Alfred Murrah federal building that killed 168 people. Timothy McVeigh was convicted of federal conspiracy and murder charges in the bombing and executed in 2001.

Scarpa learned about the explosives from Nichols, mainly through notes passed between them, said Stephen Dresch, a Michigan man who is Scarpa's informal advocate.

Dresch gave the information to the FBI in early March. But FBI agents did not search the vacant house until March 31. The bureau did not act more quickly because Scarpa failed a lie detector test, said the law enforcement official, who declined to be identified because of the sensitivity of the investigation.

The FBI lab continues to examine the materials for fingerprints and other clues that might show where the explosives originated and who may have had them before they got into Nichols' home.

Scarpa, a member of the Colombo organized crime family serving 50-plus years on drug trafficking, conspiracy and racketeering convictions, first communicated information about the explosives on March 1, then provided more details on March 10 and 11, Dresch said in letters sent to the staffs of two members of Congress and to the FBI's Detroit office. Scarpa revealed the location of the house on March 11, Dresch said.

The first letter said Scarpa learned from another prisoner, assumed by Dresch to be Nichols, "the location of a bomb on U.S. soil." The second described two rock piles in the crawl space beneath Nichols' former home. Under one, it said, were cardboard boxes wrapped in plastic. Those details match what the FBI said it found.

Aides to Reps. William Delahunt, D-Mass., and Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., acknowledged receiving the letters by fax. Delahunt's office received the letter on March 1 or 2 and forwarded it to the FBI, said Steve Schwadron, the lawmaker's chief of staff. The letter to Rohrabacher was not read until after the FBI search had been done, Rohrabacher spokeswoman Rebecca Rudman said.

The FBI refused to comment on the delay.

The bureau has faced harsh post-Sept. 11, 2001, criticism accusing it of failing to adequately investigate tips and intelligence.

Delahunt has chided the FBI for its dealings with informants, while Rohrabacher is considering requesting a hearing on the bureau's handling of the Oklahoma City investigation.

"I'm more concerned that the FBI didn't do a thorough job investigating this location 10 years ago than I am about how long it took to follow through on an informant's tip," Rohrabacher said.

Dresch, a Michigan economist, principal owner of Forensic Intelligence International and former state lawmaker, speculated that the FBI didn't act more quickly because Scarpa has a long, contentious history with federal authorities.

Valerie Caproni, now the FBI general counsel, was a prosecutor in Scarpa's 1998 trial in Brooklyn, N.Y. At the time, Scarpa testified he spied for the FBI on four suspects in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, including convicted mastermind Ramzi Yousef, while they were jailed together in Manhattan.

Scarpa said he passed on to the FBI plans that said associates of the four men would kill a prosecutor in one of Yousef's trials and attack a federal judge he declined to name as well as unspecified "government installations."

Caproni and U.S. District Judge Reena Raggi scoffed at Scarpa's claims, which the judge called insignificant at best and more likely "part of a scam."

Freelance journalist Peter Lance has argued in his recent book, "Cover Up," that Scarpa's information was accurate and included tips that could have led the FBI to Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, Yousef's uncle, long before the Sept. 11 attacks Mohammed purportedly helped plan.

Lance has obtained transcripts of Scarpa's interviews with FBI agents in which he provided details of his dealings with Yousef.

Scarpa's father, the late Gregory Scarpa, was an FBI informant whom senior officials allowed to keep working with the bureau in the 1990s even though they suspected him of murder, according to Lindley DeVecchio, Scarpa's FBI handler.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fbi; okcbombing
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1 posted on 04/15/2005 2:08:15 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Sub-Driver; doug from upland

Gettin' stranger.


2 posted on 04/15/2005 2:08:41 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

--the crack Richard Jewell investigative team continues its work---nearly ten years later--


3 posted on 04/15/2005 2:10:20 PM PDT by rellimpank (urban dwellers don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm)
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To: doug from upland

Ping.


4 posted on 04/15/2005 2:10:21 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever killed or captured.)
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To: Shermy

To quote Jim Traficant.

"The FBI and CIA are so stupid they could throw themselves at the ground and miss."


5 posted on 04/15/2005 2:10:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: Peach

Jayna Davis is going to win a Pullitzer.


6 posted on 04/15/2005 2:11:40 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: Shermy
.....waiting for Mel Gibson's movie on this one.....

:-(

7 posted on 04/15/2005 2:15:22 PM PDT by maestro
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To: Shermy

"Yousef"

This fellow is quite interesting.


8 posted on 04/15/2005 2:16:58 PM PDT by Western Phil
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To: Shermy
The bureau did not act more quickly because Scarpa failed a lie detector test

I cannot believe they still use those things. When they caught that monster sex offender that abducted and killed that little girl in Florida and buried her 150 yards away they were suspecting the grandma because she did not pass their ridiculous test.
9 posted on 04/15/2005 2:17:30 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Shermy

FBI: Federal Bureau of Idiots.


10 posted on 04/15/2005 2:21:32 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Show me your steenking badge before I use this shiny gun.)
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To: Shermy

Yep, the FBI plays it safe once again. DAMF


11 posted on 04/15/2005 2:26:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Shermy
"I'm more concerned that the FBI didn't do a thorough job investigating this location 10 years ago than I am about how long it took to follow through on an informant's tip," Rohrabacher said.

And she would know about wasting time since it took over a month to read the fax she recieved on "March 1 or 2".

12 posted on 04/15/2005 2:28:36 PM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: All
This morning on KSFO Jayna Davis said that Congressman Dana Rohrabacher called her and said that he'd read her book "The Third Terrorist" and wants to hold hearings. She expects that the hearings will be this summer.

(No surprise that Sen. Spector reneged on the same promise years ago but I don't think the Congressman is one of those.)

Hundreds of Americans suffered abuse, ridicule, and even threats of violence for years but they finally got serious investigations of Ruby Ridge and Waco.

It's time for OKC.

13 posted on 04/15/2005 2:28:50 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: Shermy
Astounding.

The bureau did not act more quickly because Scarpa failed a lie detector test

Why does it seem as if the feds spend about 1000% more effort trying to debunk a tip than actually investigating it? The bureaucratic mindset has thoroughly infected this host. "Let's look for a reason to ignore this tip so that we don't have to act." For crying out loud. The ignore the tip based on a polygraph?

14 posted on 04/15/2005 2:46:44 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Western Phil
From Janya Davis' book, "The Third Terrorist", Yousef was expert in bombs. He developed a process to carry items through airport "security" to arrange into sophisticated time bombs. And by placing these bombs over the center wing fuel tank, could take them down. Hmmm. TWA800, anybody?
15 posted on 04/15/2005 2:54:59 PM PDT by GregoryFul (Liberals are pathological liars. They admire liars, they regale in lies, they spread lies.)
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To: GregoryFul

I'm sure glad that no Muslims had anything to do with the OKC bombing. If they had, they'd have shown us that they can strike deep into America's heartland.

And as a religion of peace, that's not anything they'd be interested in.

I'm also glad that Muslims had nothing to do with TWA 800.

I know these things because my government tells me they are true.


16 posted on 04/15/2005 3:02:47 PM PDT by ReadyNow
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To: ReadyNow

Freak'n unbelievable. They search grannies at the airport and ignore "real" data. The only info they didn't have was the latitude and longitude of the "stuff".


17 posted on 04/15/2005 3:09:51 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Shermy
Will this story make Scarpa a much more sought after guest at the prison teas and cotillions?

The FBI's problem here is that they long had an agent/contact in the McVeigh-Nichols cell and they knew exactly what was to happen and when. FBI superstars from DC were to arrive in the nick of time and help save the day. They got hung up, the locals were unable to act alone and BOOM! What was supposed to be a modest explosion ignited munitions that weren't supposed to be stored in an urban federal facility and the result was, of course, massive cover up!!

McVeigh never said anything because of his loyalty to the other cell members, even the one(s) talking to the FBI. But, McVeigh was wavering and before he started to talk, the aauthorities had to get rid of him. The Jim McDougal disposal technique wouldn't work, so they expeditiously executed him, before he talked.

18 posted on 04/15/2005 3:13:12 PM PDT by Tacis ( SEAL THE FRIGGEN BORDER!!!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Dana seems to be a good guy.


19 posted on 04/15/2005 3:19:06 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: Shermy

Planted by the mob to help Scarpa get time off?


20 posted on 04/15/2005 5:28:07 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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