Posted on 04/05/2005 2:58:49 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
What papal name do you think the next pope will take?
As I search the list there have never been 3 popes taking the same name in a row. Bookies are giving 7-4 that the next pope will take John Paul III. There was never a double name before John Paul I. Not interested in this thread who will become Pope, just what name do you think he will take? Is there some Pope that the next Pope will want to pattern after besides John Paul II that any new Pope would see the Church in need of? If it were me I might take Urban, but somehow I don't think that that will be it.
Referring to this?
Pope Paul VI, who reigned from 1963 - 1978, is described in the prophecies as Flos florum (flower of flowers). His personal arms bore three fleurs-de-lis. However, this disregards all the other papal arms that had flowers on them as well.
His successor, Pope John Paul I, corresponds to the prophetic motto De medietate Lunae (Of the half-moon). It could also be interpreted as de media aetate lunae, meaning of the average age of the moon. He was elected on August 26, 1978, the day after the moon reached its last quarter (Note: the moon at this point was waning, it was not a half moon), and reigned for just over one calendar month (33 days... where a lunar cycle is 28 days). At the death of Pope John Paul I, it was the day before the new moon. However, a much simpler explanation might be that he was born on the day of the half moon; on October 17, 1912, the moon was in its first quarter.
The last reigning pontiff, Pope John Paul II, prophetic's motto is De labore Solis, which literally means "Of the labor of the sun"; however, "labores solis" also means solar eclipse (http://www.sunsite.ubc.ca/LatinDictionary/HyperText/l.html). Pope John Paul II was born on May 18, 1920, the day of a solar eclipse, and buried on April 8, 2005, the day of another solar eclipse (http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEmono/HSE2005/PSE2005.html). To skeptics, associating this Latin phrase with solar eclipses, however, is an example of statistically likely postdiction, as an eclipse occurs twice or more times in a single year. It should be noted, however, that the prophecy associates the solar eclipse with a specific pope, not a random one from the list; also, the odds of someone being born and buried on days of a solar eclipse, are rather small. It has also been suggested that the associated Latin phrase could also be a cryptic term for de borealis sol, of the northern sun, being a luminary coming from Poland to the north. It has also so happened that an abnormally high number of sunspots have been recorded throughout all the many years of his pontificate.
Following John Paul II, only two popes remain in the prophecy. The next motto is Gloria Olivae, the glory of the olive. This motto has led to speculation that the next pontiff will be from the Order of Saint Benedict or will at least choose Benedict as his papal name. Others think that "olive" may mean that the new pope is somehow connected to Israel, because St. Malachy is known to have used the name "Olive" for that region. Also, Our Lady of Guadaloupe is described as being "olive-skinned" as are the peoples of Central America; several papabili currently hail from that area. Alternatively, less specific interpreters have predicted that the next pope will promote world peace. The self-proclaimed Pope Clemente Domínguez y Gómez of the Palmarian Catholic Church claimed that he was the glory of the olive.
The longest and final motto reads, "In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oues in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis ciuitas septicollis diruetur, & Iudex tremêdus iudicabit populum suum. Finis." (Amidst external persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep in many tribulations, after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed, and the terrible Judge will judge his people. The End.)
One of the anti-popes died recently IIRC. Was it this one?
I can name that Pope in three notes.
Yes, and I still think it was rather mean of them.
How about Hilarius II? Or Pope Humorus would work too. j/k
Yah, Humorus Hilarius
My Vote is for Leo XIV
I prefer to think of JPI as the first pope with a middle name. Maybe in the future, they will have popes with names as long as some of these royals have (like Prince Charles Philip Arthur George or whatever).
Well, look at it this way; they could have gotten another dog to replace the one they lost. Instead, they chose you! :)
I hadn't heard that. I dunno.
Benedict.
I think I was the result of a broken condom, but they were just too religious to name me "Dammit".
Benedict XVI.
My son is kind of partial to Formosus. :)
NO!! peter means end of the world in prophecy
From my 101 here, I see we have 1 more to go before the last one. Kewl, it should be within my lifetime unless they both last as long as JP2.
The double name honors John XXIII and Paul VI.
So the whole basis is questionable.
I say we go Linda Ronstadt with this one, and have "Pope Opitifulme".
There's a simpler solution - use a biblical name like Joseph. There's not one on the list - Pope Joseph I.
Regards, Ivan
In honor of the increasing dominance of "Red State" culture and values, I think "Pope Urban" is out in favor of "Pope Rural".
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