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Black holes 'do not exist'
Nature ^ | 03/31/05 | Philip Ball

Posted on 03/31/2005 4:41:46 PM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo

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To: PeterFinn

And isn't it nice to know that scientists are willing to admit that they don't know it all?
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Learn to say "I don't know." If used when appropriate, it will be often. - Donald Rumsfeld


41 posted on 03/31/2005 6:54:48 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/foundingoftheunitedstates.htm)
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To: Publius6961
Every time I try to grasp quantum physics, event horizons, black holes and super-dense dark matter, my head starts to explode and I have to go find something I can deal with like digging a posthole>/b> or sorting my socks.

Post-Hole Digger = "PhD".

So what don't you understand? :-)

Cheers!

42 posted on 03/31/2005 6:55:30 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: the right side jedi
yeah im not buying this. I need to see some equations and evidence before I believe any of this. I have a background in physics and I get the impression that he doesnt understand some aspects........noticed that some physicists when they cant explain something like to say its because of dark matter/energy

Damn it... your forcing me to do this but...... ok


43 posted on 03/31/2005 7:02:30 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: Dick Vomer

OK... had enough???


44 posted on 03/31/2005 7:03:14 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
I'm halfway through "Parallel Worlds" by Michio Kaku, published in January 2005, and he writes of black holes in great detail. (wormholes and strings, too).
45 posted on 03/31/2005 7:04:04 PM PST by TailspinJim
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To: Dick Vomer

46 posted on 03/31/2005 7:05:24 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: Dick Vomer
and just in case you want to see the rough draft of the black hole "not there" theory...

/sarcasm off roflmao

47 posted on 03/31/2005 7:07:17 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: Publius6961

Use the duct tape if the head seems likely to explode. But wait! There was an explosion at a duct tape factory today. Don't know if they were product testing.


48 posted on 03/31/2005 7:08:15 PM PST by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: RightWhale

Check your calendars.


49 posted on 03/31/2005 7:15:25 PM PST by getsoutalive
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To: Dick Vomer

Oh, Yeah? Well, take this!
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html


50 posted on 03/31/2005 7:15:53 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Nick Danger

Outstanding theory. Nobel material, for certain!!


51 posted on 03/31/2005 7:17:24 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (Repeal the NFA of '34! the GCA of '68! and the '86 ban!)
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To: Dick Vomer; Nick Danger

This will explain everything.

52 posted on 03/31/2005 7:30:20 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

Black holes, such as the one pictured in this artist's impression, may in fact be pockets of 'dark energy'.
© ESA/NASA
53 posted on 03/31/2005 7:32:59 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Dr. Frank fan

No noise caused by an explosion in space?

What about within the matter itself?

Do you think that a blast wave in a vacuum couldn't vibrate an eardrum? Or to put it differently, do you think that a blast wave in a vacuum couldn't blow up anything?

Question: Did the "Big Bang" produce any noise?
Answer: Only in the parts that mattered.

- You heard it hear first -
DG & CP


54 posted on 03/31/2005 7:37:21 PM PST by Dark Glasses and Corncob Pipe (14, 15, 16...whatever!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks, guys.

It's all perfectly clear now.

not!

55 posted on 03/31/2005 7:38:10 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Fiat volvntas tva

Re: "Obviously, someone hasn't looked inside Barney Frank's head."

I always though Barney's was much lower...


56 posted on 03/31/2005 7:40:14 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: PeterFinn
They were written by this other guy - named Shakespeare.
57 posted on 03/31/2005 7:49:15 PM PST by JasonC
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To: Dark Glasses and Corncob Pipe
I can't tell at what level of seriousness you meant your post. Suffice to say:

noise requires a medium

no medium in space

Now, if you're "in" the explosion, or the actual blast radius of the explosion reaches your position while it still has a sufficient energy, then yes perhaps sympathetic vibrations could cause your whole body, and eardrums, to oscillate, and you'll "hear" something.

I think Luke was too far away from those TIE Fighters for that to apply in his case, however.

Best,

58 posted on 03/31/2005 8:38:03 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Alamo-Girl

pingy


59 posted on 03/31/2005 8:42:38 PM PST by timestax
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To: Dr. Frank fan
What's next? No Klingons?

Only around Uranus.

Mark

60 posted on 03/31/2005 8:49:32 PM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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