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Black holes 'do not exist'
Nature ^
| 03/31/05
| Philip Ball
Posted on 03/31/2005 4:41:46 PM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo
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To: silverleaf
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posted on
03/31/2005 4:43:25 PM PST
by
silverleaf
(Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
Black holes do not exists?
Obviously, someone hasn't looked inside Barney Frank's head.
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
Well, they do exist because we can observe their effects. But can they "exist" the way we understand existence?
Probably not.
And isn't it nice to know that scientists are willing to admit that they don't know it all?
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posted on
03/31/2005 4:47:10 PM PST
by
PeterFinn
(The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
To: PeterFinn
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posted on
03/31/2005 4:47:46 PM PST
by
Michael_Michaelangelo
(The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory. Lots of links on my homepage...)
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
Science just keeps screwing up the best science fiction. First they told me that laser-guns and explosions in space wouldn't make any noise. And that faster-than-light travel wasn't possible, and even near-light travel would screw up peoples' ages relative to each other. That you couldn't have gravity on a ship to let you walk around, etc. Now this?
What's next? No Klingons?
To: Fiat volvntas tva
Obviously, someone hasn't looked inside Barney Frank's head. Barney's head is very selective about what it "sucks in"!
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posted on
03/31/2005 4:48:27 PM PST
by
Kimba
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
Oh yeah? Well then where do our tax dollars go?
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
But Einstein didn't believe in black holes, Chapline argues. Einstein also believed that "God doesn't play dice" when in fact The Old Guy is an inveterate gambler.
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posted on
03/31/2005 4:50:05 PM PST
by
facedown
(Armed in the Heartland)
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
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posted on
03/31/2005 4:50:38 PM PST
by
punster
To: Dr. Frank fan
If you ever had a long haired dog, you would be well aware that Klingon will always exist.
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posted on
03/31/2005 4:51:34 PM PST
by
edeal
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
Another recent theory is that black holes are essential to galaxy formation. So who is correct?
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posted on
03/31/2005 4:52:24 PM PST
by
Straight Vermonter
(Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
So black holes don't exist, we're just seeing something that looks and acts like a black hole would, except for utilizing a different mechanism?
No matter what, it still sucks.
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posted on
03/31/2005 4:53:46 PM PST
by
ApplegateRanch
(Only those without honor eat dead food, rather than making every meal a fight!)
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
Well this would just throw out about 60 years of cosmology.. Jeez.
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posted on
03/31/2005 4:54:19 PM PST
by
G32
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
Sorry guys, but you'll have to resolve this one without me.
Every time I try to grasp quantum physics, event horizons, black holes and super-dense dark matter, my head starts to explode and I have to go find something I can deal with like digging a posthole or sorting my socks.
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posted on
03/31/2005 4:54:52 PM PST
by
Publius6961
(The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
70% the Universe seems to be composed of a strange 'dark energy' that is driving the Universe's accelerating expansion. I AM THE FATHER OF 70% OF YOU.
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
yeah im not buying this. I need to see some equations and evidence before I believe any of this. I have a background in physics and I get the impression that he doesnt understand some aspects about general relativity. The problem with quantum mechanics at the boundary comes most likely from the fact that we have no theory of gravitational quantum mechanics. I've noticed that some physicists when they cant explain something like to say its because of dark matter/energy
To: PeterFinn
And isn't it nice to know that scientists are willing to admit that they don't know it all?
Yes it is, and you often see it with astronomers, who also have a little-kid-excited attitude lots of times. The anti-ID folks in the life sciences just don't seem to have the same curiosity and humility, but I guess being grim defenders of Western Civilization against the Creationist Theocrats doesn't leave much room for fun.
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
I'm shattered. I mean, when you can't put your faith in an object of zero dimension, infinite surface gravity and incalculable spin connected by an instantaneous link to another point in the universe, what CAN you put your faith in?
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posted on
03/31/2005 5:04:04 PM PST
by
Starve The Beast
(I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
To: Michael_Michaelangelo
Of course black holes exist. That's where all of my money goes. Wait. That's taxes!
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