Posted on 03/18/2005 8:49:27 PM PST by kralcmot
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
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sorry about the keywords, they got alphabetized by the computer.
Didn't you know that this doesn't apply to people who are an inconvience to others? I found that out a long time ago.
Convenient how so many people skip that "little" word.
Can we in effect base citizens arrest on it?
Would someone explain to me how upholding the Declaration of Independance by defending Terri's right to live is not conservative--even more important, American? Seems a number have been unsuccessfully trying to make that case today.
Absolutely true. However (you knew there had to be a "however") it is not the first point made in the declaration.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
I'm being totally serious. Are we to this point, again? Are we at the point where it is necessary to "dissolve the political bands which have connected" us?
It is not my position that we must break free from oppressive political bonds. Rather I think that we are in clear accord with the founders and that our adversaries have chosen to "break the bonds" of legal and civil discourse under the rule of law.
They have arrogated to themselves extra democratic powers to declare law as they see fit without benefit of Constitutional processes. In short, they are in rebellion against the Constitution of the United States.
The Democrats confronted this nation with precisely this challenge 150 years ago when they declared that their "right" to own slaves overrode the constitutional processes and the rule of law. Five hundred thousand Americans died to settle that question and see to the freedom of several million more Americans.
Now they declare their "right" to end a life, any life, because in their sole judgement it is no longer "worth living."
Well thank you Charlie Manson. I don't think that quite flies in this country.
Do we have to make it a contest? You push it, there are plenty of us who are willing to take up that cause.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHO LIVES AND WHO DIES.
I have noticed the same thing -- if what I have seen on here today by some anti-life folks is conservative then count me out. The Declaration of Independence is the Foundation of this Nation and I always thought conservatives treasured that document. A lot of us do but it is obvious that States Rights now trump the Declaration of Independence in the minds of some.
"Can we in effect base citizens arrest on it?"
unfortunately, no. the Declaration of Independence does not have force of Law, like the Constitution. it is a declaration of principles and an enumeration of grievances.
i know, and i am not saying that its time for a new government, yet....that's why i did not post the whole document. i think we can win this one from the government we have. if not.....?
Some still rake Lincoln over the coals for not respecting state rights during the civil war.
All I know is the difference between right and wrong. The scholars can duke out the legalities. I know it is wrong to starve an innocent woman to death. It is a horrific death and indefensible.
Terrorists are not allowed to be treated with this disregard for life. Just this week people were defending the caribou and polar bears. Environ crowd was up in arms about the pristine environment being destroyed by drilling. Yet dare stand up to defend a disabled woman from being denied food and water and we are in the wrong? No.
I have no idea what the end of this will be, but defending Terri is morally just.
It may not be the law of the land, but it was the Foundation on which this Nation was built and to me that is a pretty important document that the Courts seem to have thrown out the window.
What sucks are the judges' rulings we see today. The legislature passes a law the judges say it is no good. Something is wrong with that. I have no confidence in most judges and even less in Florida judges.
None of them will simply because they cannot defend the indefensible.
You'll just have to face the fact that a good many Republicans favor Judge Greer's decision. These are the same people who also support abortion, gay 'rights', and revoking God and Christianity from all public locales, especially schools.
I think you have misunderstood the Constitution. Greer and the HINO consider Terri "owned" and only worthy of 2/3 of a vote. And THEY WON'T LET HER NEAR THE BALLOT BOX.
/extreme sarcasm
Sorry, this how my brain works when I wake up in the midel of the night and try to post...back to sleep for me.
You and I share the same opinion of all of this! J.C. Watts had the saying that you do the right thing when no one is watching -- shame the Judge didn't consider that when making his ruling he now won't back down from.
Still don't understand how a legislature can pass a law and a Judge overrules the legislature and orders this woman put to death by withholding food and water. Something is really wrong. Who is going to be next? If I had elderly parents living in Florida, I would be getting them out of the state ASAP. Now I find out that the lawyer for the scumbag husband used to sit on the Board of Hospice of Florida. I have been wondering why the staff at Hospice has not spoken up and did something -- don't wonder anymore.
Judicial tyranny has been going on for years and we just sat there. If we don't get really angry now, our kids are just hosed.
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