Posted on 03/13/2005 1:11:03 PM PST by jan in Colorado
In Islam, lying or omissions for the 'greater good,' according to a strict or radical Islam/Islamist philosophy is not only acceptable, it is holy and blessed work. It is called al-Takeyya (or al-Taqiyya) and is a strategy outlined in the Hadiths and supported by various interpretations of some of the Suras in the Koran. We have just seen it in action and most people never even caught the whiff of mental ether the Islamists were pouring into the airways of the already comatose and choking non-Islamist world.
Al-Takeyya is a policy whereby a Muslim may lie, deceive or omit critical truths if it promotes the spreading of Islam AND the conquest of the non-Muslim world. According to William P. Welty, Ph.D., al-Takeyya/Taqiyya is:
"The Islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah. Falsehoods told to prevent denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned by the Qur'an, including lying under penalty of perjury in testimony before the United States Congress, lying or making distorted statements to the media such as claiming that Islam is a religion of peace and deceiving fellow Muslims when the one lying has deemed them to be apostates." (1)
And here is the definition from an Islam encyclopedia website:
"The word "al-Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies..." (2)
Now here's where the latest Islamist sneak maneuver of al Takeyya/Taqiyya comes into play. The Islamic Commission of Spain issued a decree against al-Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden. They did this in response to the bombing of a Madrid train last year by al Qaeda.
Mansur Escudero, head of the Federation of Islamic Religious Entities, called on clerics to formally condemn terrorism and pray for all terror victims. He went on to state, ''The terrorist acts of Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda organization ... which result in the death of civilians, such as women and children ... are totally prohibited and are the object of strong condemnation within Islam.''
Sounds good so far.
But let's examine what this man did not say, as well as the timing of his little media-sensation fatwa.
This fatwa was timed to coincide with the 1-year anniversary of the bombing in Madrid. Sure, several hundred people died, but this is not the first time that hundreds, nay, thousands of people have died at the hands of Muslims merely because they weren't Muslim.
Therefore, one must ask why was there no such fatwa issued in the aftermath of 9-11? And why has no fatwa about the "...death of civilians, such as women and children'' ever been issued regarding the thousands upon thousands of Jewish/Israeli victims of genocidal terror ever been issued?
I will tell you why. This is al-Takeyya/Taqiyya at its most devious and deceptive. And the key word here is 'civilians.'
In radical Islam (Islamism), any Jew living in Israel is not considered either 'innocent' or a 'civilian.' Nor were the people living and working in America on 9-11. Islamists consider the 'Great Satan -- America,' and the 'Little Satan -- Israel,' to be enemy combatants. And this includes every man, woman or child, even babes in arms, even sleeping or in school or playing in playgrounds. This includes any and all who are not Islamists and who oppose being forced to kneel down and pay homage to Allah or his followers. In particular, Christians (whom they call 'Crusaders'), and Jews.
This also includes those of us who refuse to allow the Islamists to insidiously inject their politico-religious dogma into our way of life. And this especially includes Israel, whom the Islamists view as a polluting force in their quest for 'Arab unity' and a Judenrein Middle East.
So the fatwa issued by this Muslim cleric living in Spain was meant to put the free and civilized world into yet another coma. He was hoping we would see this supposedly 'peaceful and tolerant' religious edict and sing the praises of Islam and remind each other how it is a 'peaceful' religion, even though the word 'Islam' also means 'to submit,' and our utter and complete submission is what they are working towards.
The crafter of this latest religious edict, so proudly trumpeted to the world, has achieved nothing more than a clumsy attempt to delude us into thinking that Islamism is really nice and honorable and loving and peaceful. It is also meant to deceive us into believing that even though such edicts were never issued -- and will never be issued -- regarding Americans or Israelis, these particular Muslims are mainstream moderates.
Camel cakes! We are now familiar with the ploy of lying, omissions and deceit as sanctioned by al-Takeyya/Taqiyya. And some of us are not in a humanist/liberal feel-good coma like lambs going to the slaughter. And we will continue to alert you to the deceptions used by the Islamists.
The lesson to be learned here is not to look for what is said, but what is deliberately not said. If anything, this fatwa, by its omissions and timing (or lack thereof) has simply reinforced the fact that the Islamists do not see Israel or Judeo-Christian America as 'innocent.' It has reaffirmed that they see us all as ripe for deceit and murder in the name of Allah.
I have had many spiritual battles in my life, and I know what you say is true.
When Jesus was demonstrating His abilities to cast out demons to His Disciples, He cast out the demons from the crazy man, but He admonished His followers that their only weapon against demons like this was prayer.
To be able to love the muzzies after what I have seen would be equal to Saul's ephiphany on the road to Damascus, even though I know that's the proper way, and the way Jesus would want us to follow.
As I said, may God forgive me. I'm not there yet.
Thank you for illuminating this teaching, and I promise I will work on it.
I've felt consumed by Islams evil and hatred too at times. Often I feel it pollutes all it touches with its poison, and I have had to take more than one breather to get over it, collect my thoughts and refocus... (like in the Nigeria thread).
I am not there yet either, TC. Far from it. It is a painful,daily struggle.
Loving one's enemies has to be the hardest thing ever asked of Christians. I think as we learn to comprehend the love God has for us, even though we don't deserve it, then we can start to grasp the love of Jesus and His ability to forgive the unforgivable.
To accomplish this, will take nothing less than the power of God. My prayer is that we make the attempt, and leave the changing of our hearts and minds to God.
God be with all of us as we fight the evil in this world and fight for God's Truth to be revealed to all.
Islam, RoP, my a$$.
When we respond to Islam by returning evil for evil and hatred for hatred, we have lost...and Islam has won, Satan has won, and evil has won.
As hard as it is to imagine, Jesus was scourged and nailed to the cross so Salvation could be offered to everyone, including Muslims.
Hey DS, nice to see you around again!
I guess that means electroshock therapy next week (everytime I log onto FR, they poke me with a live wire).
So very true, and yet we know in our hearts as Christians (because God put it there) that love begats love and hate begats hate.
It's so very difficult as human beings to say, "What would Jesus do?", and do it.
You may very well have brought to light the ONLY answer to this time of tribulation - prayer.
I try to remember that when my back is to the wall, Jesus had His back to the Cross for me.
Thx, TC, me too.
>>>It's so very difficult as human beings to say, "What would Jesus do?", and do it.<<<
It is hard enough just to ask "What would He do"?
To then have to do it....very difficult indeed.
That was the wisdom of God to have Jesus here as a man so we have the perfect example of what to do.
You are correct, TC. There is only ONE way to ever have a chance....What would Jesus do? We know from the Scriptures that He prayed...and He prayed a lot.
He'd have to fix me up with a few new body parts, but that wouldn't be any hill for God.
I can still sit a horse pretty well; I don't know about handling a sword. I prefer my .50 caliber.
"Does Islam need to be exposed and destroyed? Yes. Is it a threat to our very existence? Yes. Islam is an enemy of Christianity and of a free society. But we need to keep Jesus? words in our attitude of seeing the ?people? not ?knowing? what they are doing.
Love is so much more powerful than hate. We need to teach them of Jesus and the power of the cross."
Jan, thank you for your inspiring post.
I have not wanted to come back to this thread today.
I felt immense dismay by some of the foolish posts I read
here last night.
How do we reason with people who refuse to listen?
Are these posters serious, or are they just playing with us?
I don't know the answer to that question, but I do know you brought us back to the real essence of our annoyance with these posters.
There are so many provacative issues raised in this thread, and we want to illustrate the pure wrong headedness of some of these opinions.
What's the answer?
You answered for me, faith and prayer.
Thank you again.
If you believe that all Muslims are evil, terrorists, and anti-American, that it's a "death cult" dedicated to killing all of us, then putting them in internment camps is the logical outcome of your position. So would you favor it or not?
If not, then you don't really believe what you say you really believe.
Thanks Jan.
So let's see now. You claim that no Muslims ahve condemned any of the terrorism, so I point out the fatwa against bin Laden, which is pretty severe condemnation. (May they be successful inc rrying it out.) So you, of course, dismiss the fatwa as suspicious and not real because it would contradict your argument, so it can't possibly be for real.
Sure, that makes sense.
So if they say anything that contradicts your view of them, they must be lying, right?
First see my post #414. Care to comment on that?
You say you hope to see the fatwah carried out. May I know what you're expecting?
This is just a condemnation for "istihlal"... not a fatwah calling for his death... you know that right?
Escudero said "a fatwa can be issued by any Muslim leader who leads prayer sessions and as he serves such a role" so basically hes saying that any muslim who decides to call himself an imam or mufti can make up or pull a fatwah out of his chosen orifice.
Lets see now... he claims the basis for his fatwah was "istihlal"... ie, making up new laws. Now, sharia is a cornerstone of islam, and noting what I said above in post #414, the basis for his own fatwah, can be equally applied to those who want to follow the laws of man, ie, secularism, over the laws of Allah, ie sharia. In fact if you read my previous post, its exactly what the Spanish Muslim keynote speaker of the "Islam in Europe" conference was alluding to.
Now, do you see the problem with this fatwah?
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